2008 totally screws custom views

[Eric Tiffany]

So I just discovered that

1. Entourage 2008 makes it impossible to create custom views. You are
forced to use the inferior saved search. However, it teases you by
preserving the custom views you imported along with the Ent 2004 data,
though you can't really modify these imported custom views.

2. The saved search is crap. First, it doesn't keep the pane arrangement I
want (preview below), at least I can't figure out how to do this. Second,
unlike a Custom View, the Saved Search must be recomputed each time you
select it (which takes forever). The Custom View would take a while to
create initially, but (once created) is kept up-to-date so that you can
select it without delay for as long as Entourage is running. Finally, with
a saved search (unlike a custom view) you don't have the "filter bar" so
that you can sub-search by Subject, From, To (etc.)

What is the matter with these M$ "developers". Abysmal.

 

[William Smith]

So I just discovered that

1. Entourage 2008 makes it impossible to create custom views. You are
forced to use the inferior saved search. However, it teases you by
preserving the custom views you imported along with the Ent 2004 data,
though you can't really modify these imported custom views.

2. The saved search is crap. First, it doesn't keep the pane arrangement I
want (preview below), at least I can't figure out how to do this. Second,
unlike a Custom View, the Saved Search must be recomputed each time you
select it (which takes forever). The Custom View would take a while to
create initially, but (once created) is kept up-to-date so that you can
select it without delay for as long as Entourage is running. Finally, with
a saved search (unlike a custom view) you don't have the "filter bar" so
that you can sub-search by Subject, From, To (etc.)

What is the matter with these M$ "developers". Abysmal.

Microsoft does not regularly monitor this newsgroup. Please send your
feedback using the Help --> Send Feedback tool built into every Office
application.

You're preaching to the choir here. ;-)

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bill

William M. Smith, Microsoft Interop MVP - Mac/Windows
Entourage Help Page <http://entourage.mvps.org/>
Entourage Help Blog <http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/>

 

[MiGrant]

I somehow managed to create a custom view this morning, but I can't for the life of me duplicate the process. I'm still playing around with E2008, wasn't aware of the distinction between a saved search and a custom view at the time, and wasn't really paying attention -- but I do have one sitting on my system now and can bring up the edit dialog by right-clicking it. So the code is still in there somewhere -- if only I could figure out how I got to it....
:chagrin:
MiGrant

 

[Diane Ross]

I somehow managed to create a custom view this morning, but I can't for the
life of me duplicate the process. I'm still playing around with E2008, wasn't
aware of the distinction between a saved search and a custom view at the time,
and wasn't really paying attention -- but I do have one sitting on my system
now and can bring up the edit dialog by right-clicking it. So the code is
still in there somewhere -- if only I could figure out how I got to it....

When you type in a search term in the top right search box, this starts a
Spotlight search. Saving a search adds it as a Mail View (custom view).

When you save a search it will show up in the folder list under Mail Views
at the bottom. Some people use these instead of folders.

Click on the header "Mail Views" and it will list all views. Select the view
and double click to open it, or select Edit --> Edit Saved Search, or use
right-click (control-click) to get contextual menu --> Edit Saved Search.

The new Spotlight searches are new to Entourage 2008. Saving them makes them
a "saved Mail View". Terminology a bit confusing. Just like tasks and todos
are confusing.

Learn About Custom Views

<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/custom_views/index.html>

 

[Michael Grant]

When you type in a search term in the top right search box, this starts a
Spotlight search. Saving a search adds it as a Mail View (custom view).

When you save a search it will show up in the folder list under Mail Views
at the bottom. Some people use these instead of folders.

Click on the header "Mail Views" and it will list all views. Select the view
and double click to open it, or select Edit --> Edit Saved Search, or use
right-click (control-click) to get contextual menu --> Edit Saved Search.

The new Spotlight searches are new to Entourage 2008. Saving them makes them
a "saved Mail View". Terminology a bit confusing. Just like tasks and todos
are confusing.

Learn About Custom Views

<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/custom_views/index.html>

I was actually making a distinction between E2008's "saved searches" and
E2004's "custom views", as I think the OP was. But by now I think I really
just found a leftover custom view that had been imported from my old
identity, not one I somehow created in E2008.

Michael

 

[Diane Ross]

I was actually making a distinction between E2008's "saved searches" and
E2004's "custom views", as I think the OP was. But by now I think I really
just found a leftover custom view that had been imported from my old
identity, not one I somehow created in E2008.

Custom views and Saved mail searches are the same thing. Just different ways
to create them.

 

[Michael Grant]

Custom views and Saved mail searches are the same thing. Just different ways
to create them.

Well, the interface for editing them is different, and there seem to be some
differences in their capabilities, or at least in what's exposed in the UI,
although it's hard to tell since the options for searches are different
depending on which part of Entourage you start in. Overall I think I prefer
the custom view dialog to the search-in-place interface for searches.

Do you know if the syntax for "raw queries" is documented anywhere?

Michael