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Paul Berkowitz
It's not Unicode and it's not 8879. It's ISO 8859-1. It's exactly as Andreas
said - it's due to a peculiar mapping between IS0-8859-1 and MacRoman.
What's a bit unusual this time is that Montserrat was _not_ sending in HTML
with "Replace straight quotes with Smart quotes". He actually typed curly
quotes in plain text. Now on a US Keyboard and other English language
keyboards that's a bit obscure. You do it this way: option-[ = ³ and
shift-option-[ = ². It may be that Montserrat is using a keyboard where
typing curly quotes is a bit more exposed. In any case it's possible.
Now MacRoman uses so-called ASCII 210 and 211 encoding for these characters.
Presumably those are the superscript 3 and 2 in Windows-1252 encoding. (210
and 211 differ from what Andreas' website claim for these characters, namely
178 and 179.)
If you set the Character Format of Montserrat's original to Western European
(ISO) in Entourage, you'll still see the curly quotes. If you set it to
Western European (Windows) you'll see the superscript 3 and 2 that Andreas
refers to. It also looks that way (superscripts) in the Source which must be
following true ISO-8859-1. Entourage knows to convert that to MacRoman for
display.
I'll be interested to see what encoding Entourage 2004 uses for the curly
quotes I typed here: ³and². I'm sending this not as a reply, which would
preserve the supposed ISO-8859-1 8 bit encoding of the OE Mac 5.0.6
original, but as a new message. Maybe it will be just the same. But
Entourage 2004 is newer than OE 5 so maybe things have changed. We shall
see.
Andreas is using a different newsreader (I don't know which) that displayed
those characters in Windows format so he saw the 3 and 2, unlike the rest of
us in Entourage who saw the curly quotes. I think his point is that 8859-1
is a single protocol that ought not to be converted to MacRoman, or
something like that. Take a look at Andreas's "Organization" header in the
Source. He appears to have an ax to grind here...
--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP MacOffice
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AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>
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PLEASE always state which version of Microsoft Office you are using -
**2004**, X or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions
otherwise.
said - it's due to a peculiar mapping between IS0-8859-1 and MacRoman.
What's a bit unusual this time is that Montserrat was _not_ sending in HTML
with "Replace straight quotes with Smart quotes". He actually typed curly
quotes in plain text. Now on a US Keyboard and other English language
keyboards that's a bit obscure. You do it this way: option-[ = ³ and
shift-option-[ = ². It may be that Montserrat is using a keyboard where
typing curly quotes is a bit more exposed. In any case it's possible.
Now MacRoman uses so-called ASCII 210 and 211 encoding for these characters.
Presumably those are the superscript 3 and 2 in Windows-1252 encoding. (210
and 211 differ from what Andreas' website claim for these characters, namely
178 and 179.)
If you set the Character Format of Montserrat's original to Western European
(ISO) in Entourage, you'll still see the curly quotes. If you set it to
Western European (Windows) you'll see the superscript 3 and 2 that Andreas
refers to. It also looks that way (superscripts) in the Source which must be
following true ISO-8859-1. Entourage knows to convert that to MacRoman for
display.
I'll be interested to see what encoding Entourage 2004 uses for the curly
quotes I typed here: ³and². I'm sending this not as a reply, which would
preserve the supposed ISO-8859-1 8 bit encoding of the OE Mac 5.0.6
original, but as a new message. Maybe it will be just the same. But
Entourage 2004 is newer than OE 5 so maybe things have changed. We shall
see.
Andreas is using a different newsreader (I don't know which) that displayed
those characters in Windows format so he saw the 3 and 2, unlike the rest of
us in Entourage who saw the curly quotes. I think his point is that 8859-1
is a single protocol that ought not to be converted to MacRoman, or
something like that. Take a look at Andreas's "Organization" header in the
Source. He appears to have an ax to grind here...
--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP MacOffice
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html>
AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>
Please "Reply To Newsgroup" to reply to this message. Emails will be
ignored.
PLEASE always state which version of Microsoft Office you are using -
**2004**, X or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions
otherwise.