A FrontPage Warning!

[Tom Pepper Willett]

....and at least you sign your name to your posts.

--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
===
| Perhaps. But, at least I'm somewhat articulate, and capable of correctly
| spelling 3 and 7 letter words.
|
| Bob Lehmann
|
| | > Bobb
| >
| > Once again you prove to all you are an askhole!
| >
| > >-----Original Message-----
| > >I'd like to mention that I had a similar experience with
| > Black & Decker. I
| > >bought a circular saw. And, even though I know little
| > about carpentry, and
| > >had no time to read the instructions, I went ahead
| > anyway. The stupid saw
| > >wouldn't cut straight lines no matter how hard I tried.
| > even changing the
| > >settings on the saw seemed to have no effect!
| > >
| > >PS - Your "S" key seems to be broken; It keeps coming out
| > as $. Oh, wait;
| > >You're trying to be funny or something, aren't you? If
| > you can't be funny,
| > >could you at least be original?
| > >
| > >Bob Lehmann
| > >
| > in message
| > >| > >> When I set out to document my company's software
| > development methodology,
| > >I
| > >> unwisely decided to ignore the advice of our technical
| > people, and used
| > >> Microsoft Front Page. I was cautious along the way,
| > building the site and
| > >> testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make
| > sure I wasn't painting
| > >> myself into a corner. Everything seemed okay. When I
| > was finished (2711
| > >> pages), I tested the site again, and everything
| > appeared to be working. I
| > >> then decided to rename some of the pages that had
| > blanks in them, so they
| > >> wouldn't show up as "%20". Again, having had long
| > experience with various
| > >> flakey Microsoft products, I made a few test changes,
| > recompiled, and
| > >> satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went
| > back and changed the
| > >> remaining pages.
| > >>
| > >> When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies.
| > First, several pages
| > >> were not showing up on the button bar (they showed up
| > as red "x"s). When
| > >I
| > >> went back into Frontpage, and double clicked on the
| > suspect pages in the
| > >> navigator, I received an error message. I could see
| > that the pages were
| > >> still in the folders, so I was able to drag them back
| > to the navigator
| > >> structure, move their child pages, and remove the
| > broken page. Why did
| > >this
| > >> occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't
| > too bad - only took a
| > >> couple of hours to track down everything and fix it.
| > >>
| > >> Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the
| > following error:
| > >>
| > >> Server error: The folder that would hold
| > URL 'reference/tasks/define
| > >object
| > >>
| > model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gi
| > f' does not
| > >exist
| > >> on the server
| > >>
| > >> Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was
| > supposed to do!
| > >>
| > >> Now, when I view the finished site, I have random
| > buttons showing up with
| > >> no text on them. They WORK, and if you hover over them
| > you see the right
| > >> path. Front Page simply fails to create the button
| > gifs with the right
| > >text
| > >> on them.
| > >>
| > >> This is really terrific. I've spent three months
| > creating this site, and
| > >> this piece of Microsoft crap not only ruins it, but
| > waits until it's
| > >> completed to do so. Could this really be an accident?
| > Or does Microsoft
| > >do
| > >> this on purpose?
| > >>
| > >> Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my
| > simple websites for
| > >> years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have
| > gotten it right by
| > >now.)
| > >> However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a
| > few pages, I'd
| > >strongly
| > >> advise a different tool.
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >
| > >
| > >.
| > >
|
|

 

[Tom Pepper Willett]

Rob: I write it off as trolling ;-)
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
===
in message Yah know what irks me about people like this? He never came here for
HELP...but comes here to complain.

sheesh.

| > Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my simple websites
for
| > years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have gotten it right by
| > now.) However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a few pages,
I'd
| > strongly advise a different tool.
|
| Let's see, now. You are having problems with your web design, and blaming
| your tools for it. You don't personally accept ANY blame for your
problems,
| but from your message, you do have some. For example:
|
| > then decided to rename some of the pages that had blanks in them, so
they
| > wouldn't show up as "%20".
|
| If you knew what you were doing, you would never have named web files with
| spaces in them. Spaces are illegal URL characters.
|
| > Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the following error:
|
| FrontPage is not Visual Studio. HTML is not programming code. There is no
| "building" to be done. Obviously, you don't know much about webs and web
| toolkits.
|
| It's easy and takes no character to pick on "Micro$oft." All kinds of
people
| do it. After all, Micro$oft is a big, evil corporation. But let's look
back
| 30 years. 30 years ago, Micro$oft was a handful of people struggling to
make
| it in the world of programming. Somehow they managed to make it big. I
| suppose that's some sort of crime?
|
| Well, Bill Gates is now the richest man in the world. And you can't build
a
| web site. But it's his fault, right?
|
| --
| HTH,
|
| Kevin Spencer
| Microsoft MVP
| .Net Developer
| Neither a follower nor a lender be.
|
|
| | > When I set out to document my company's software development
methodology,
| > I unwisely decided to ignore the advice of our technical people, and
used
| > Microsoft Front Page. I was cautious along the way, building the site
and
| > testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make sure I wasn't
painting
| > myself into a corner. Everything seemed okay. When I was finished
(2711
| > pages), I tested the site again, and everything appeared to be working.
I
| > then decided to rename some of the pages that had blanks in them, so
they
| > wouldn't show up as "%20". Again, having had long experience with
various
| > flakey Microsoft products, I made a few test changes, recompiled, and
| > satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went back and changed
the
| > remaining pages.
| >
| > When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies. First, several
pages
| > were not showing up on the button bar (they showed up as red "x"s).
When
| > I went back into Frontpage, and double clicked on the suspect pages in
the
| > navigator, I received an error message. I could see that the pages were
| > still in the folders, so I was able to drag them back to the navigator
| > structure, move their child pages, and remove the broken page. Why did
| > this occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't too bad - only
| > took a couple of hours to track down everything and fix it.
| >
| > Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the following error:
| >
| > Server error: The folder that would hold URL 'reference/tasks/define
| > object model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gif'
does
| > not exist on the server
| >
| > Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was supposed to do!
| >
| > Now, when I view the finished site, I have random buttons showing up
with
| > no text on them. They WORK, and if you hover over them you see the
right
| > path. Front Page simply fails to create the button gifs with the right
| > text on them.
| >
| > This is really terrific. I've spent three months creating this site,
and
| > this piece of Microsoft crap not only ruins it, but waits until it's
| > completed to do so. Could this really be an accident? Or does Microsoft
| > do this on purpose?
| >
| > Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my simple websites
for
| > years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have gotten it right by
| > now.) However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a few pages,
I'd
| > strongly advise a different tool.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Tom Pepper Willett]

Kev: In all my experiences with Uncle Chutney, I've never known him to be
wrong.

--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
===
| >I think it's like an opKinion - everyone has one.
| Yeah, and as Uncle Chutney says, they all stink.
|
| --
| HTH,
|
| Kevin Spencer
| Microsoft MVP
| .Net Developer
| Neither a follower nor a lender be.
|
| "Bob Lehmann" <none> wrote in message
| | >I think it's like an opKinion - everyone has one.
| >
| > Bob Lehmann
| >
| > "Rob Giordano (Crash Gordon®)" <[email protected]>
wrote
| > in message | > What's an asKhole anyway?
| >
| >
| > | > | Bobb
| > |
| > | Once again you prove to all you are an askhole!
| > |
| > | >-----Original Message-----
| > | >I'd like to mention that I had a similar experience with
| > | Black & Decker. I
| > | >bought a circular saw. And, even though I know little
| > | about carpentry, and
| > | >had no time to read the instructions, I went ahead
| > | anyway. The stupid saw
| > | >wouldn't cut straight lines no matter how hard I tried.
| > | even changing the
| > | >settings on the saw seemed to have no effect!
| > | >
| > | >PS - Your "S" key seems to be broken; It keeps coming out
| > | as $. Oh, wait;
| > | >You're trying to be funny or something, aren't you? If
| > | you can't be funny,
| > | >could you at least be original?
| > | >
| > | >Bob Lehmann
| > | >
| > | in message
| > | >| > | >> When I set out to document my company's software
| > | development methodology,
| > | >I
| > | >> unwisely decided to ignore the advice of our technical
| > | people, and used
| > | >> Microsoft Front Page. I was cautious along the way,
| > | building the site and
| > | >> testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make
| > | sure I wasn't painting
| > | >> myself into a corner. Everything seemed okay. When I
| > | was finished (2711
| > | >> pages), I tested the site again, and everything
| > | appeared to be working. I
| > | >> then decided to rename some of the pages that had
| > | blanks in them, so they
| > | >> wouldn't show up as "%20". Again, having had long
| > | experience with various
| > | >> flakey Microsoft products, I made a few test changes,
| > | recompiled, and
| > | >> satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went
| > | back and changed the
| > | >> remaining pages.
| > | >>
| > | >> When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies.
| > | First, several pages
| > | >> were not showing up on the button bar (they showed up
| > | as red "x"s). When
| > | >I
| > | >> went back into Frontpage, and double clicked on the
| > | suspect pages in the
| > | >> navigator, I received an error message. I could see
| > | that the pages were
| > | >> still in the folders, so I was able to drag them back
| > | to the navigator
| > | >> structure, move their child pages, and remove the
| > | broken page. Why did
| > | >this
| > | >> occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't
| > | too bad - only took a
| > | >> couple of hours to track down everything and fix it.
| > | >>
| > | >> Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the
| > | following error:
| > | >>
| > | >> Server error: The folder that would hold
| > | URL 'reference/tasks/define
| > | >object
| > | >>
| > | model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gi
| > | f' does not
| > | >exist
| > | >> on the server
| > | >>
| > | >> Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was
| > | supposed to do!
| > | >>
| > | >> Now, when I view the finished site, I have random
| > | buttons showing up with
| > | >> no text on them. They WORK, and if you hover over them
| > | you see the right
| > | >> path. Front Page simply fails to create the button
| > | gifs with the right
| > | >text
| > | >> on them.
| > | >>
| > | >> This is really terrific. I've spent three months
| > | creating this site, and
| > | >> this piece of Microsoft crap not only ruins it, but
| > | waits until it's
| > | >> completed to do so. Could this really be an accident?
| > | Or does Microsoft
| > | >do
| > | >> this on purpose?
| > | >>
| > | >> Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my
| > | simple websites for
| > | >> years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have
| > | gotten it right by
| > | >now.)
| > | >> However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a
| > | few pages, I'd
| > | >strongly
| > | >> advise a different tool.
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >.
| > | >
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Bob Lehmann]

You might think so, but in reality, I'm actually Vince Steel, ladies man.

Bob Lehmann

 

[Tom Pepper Willett]

Google says:

"A karaoke competition at the Rainworth Miners Welfare Club brings Vince
Steel and Teena White together in an explosion of talent and creativity"

Now, I want to know who the heck Teena White is?

--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
===
| You might think so, but in reality, I'm actually Vince Steel, ladies man.
|
| Bob Lehmann
|
| | > ...and at least you sign your name to your posts.
| >
| > --
| > ===
| > Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > ---
| > About FrontPage 2003:
| > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| > http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > Understanding FrontPage:
| > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| > ===
| > | > | Perhaps. But, at least I'm somewhat articulate, and capable of
correctly
| > | spelling 3 and 7 letter words.
| > |
| > | Bob Lehmann
| > |
| > | | > | > Bobb
| > | >
| > | > Once again you prove to all you are an askhole!
| > | >
| > | > >-----Original Message-----
| > | > >I'd like to mention that I had a similar experience with
| > | > Black & Decker. I
| > | > >bought a circular saw. And, even though I know little
| > | > about carpentry, and
| > | > >had no time to read the instructions, I went ahead
| > | > anyway. The stupid saw
| > | > >wouldn't cut straight lines no matter how hard I tried.
| > | > even changing the
| > | > >settings on the saw seemed to have no effect!
| > | > >
| > | > >PS - Your "S" key seems to be broken; It keeps coming out
| > | > as $. Oh, wait;
| > | > >You're trying to be funny or something, aren't you? If
| > | > you can't be funny,
| > | > >could you at least be original?
| > | > >
| > | > >Bob Lehmann
| > | > >
| > | > in message
| > | > >| > | > >> When I set out to document my company's software
| > | > development methodology,
| > | > >I
| > | > >> unwisely decided to ignore the advice of our technical
| > | > people, and used
| > | > >> Microsoft Front Page. I was cautious along the way,
| > | > building the site and
| > | > >> testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make
| > | > sure I wasn't painting
| > | > >> myself into a corner. Everything seemed okay. When I
| > | > was finished (2711
| > | > >> pages), I tested the site again, and everything
| > | > appeared to be working. I
| > | > >> then decided to rename some of the pages that had
| > | > blanks in them, so they
| > | > >> wouldn't show up as "%20". Again, having had long
| > | > experience with various
| > | > >> flakey Microsoft products, I made a few test changes,
| > | > recompiled, and
| > | > >> satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went
| > | > back and changed the
| > | > >> remaining pages.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies.
| > | > First, several pages
| > | > >> were not showing up on the button bar (they showed up
| > | > as red "x"s). When
| > | > >I
| > | > >> went back into Frontpage, and double clicked on the
| > | > suspect pages in the
| > | > >> navigator, I received an error message. I could see
| > | > that the pages were
| > | > >> still in the folders, so I was able to drag them back
| > | > to the navigator
| > | > >> structure, move their child pages, and remove the
| > | > broken page. Why did
| > | > >this
| > | > >> occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't
| > | > too bad - only took a
| > | > >> couple of hours to track down everything and fix it.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the
| > | > following error:
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Server error: The folder that would hold
| > | > URL 'reference/tasks/define
| > | > >object
| > | > >>
| > | > model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gi
| > | > f' does not
| > | > >exist
| > | > >> on the server
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was
| > | > supposed to do!
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Now, when I view the finished site, I have random
| > | > buttons showing up with
| > | > >> no text on them. They WORK, and if you hover over them
| > | > you see the right
| > | > >> path. Front Page simply fails to create the button
| > | > gifs with the right
| > | > >text
| > | > >> on them.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> This is really terrific. I've spent three months
| > | > creating this site, and
| > | > >> this piece of Microsoft crap not only ruins it, but
| > | > waits until it's
| > | > >> completed to do so. Could this really be an accident?
| > | > Or does Microsoft
| > | > >do
| > | > >> this on purpose?
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my
| > | > simple websites for
| > | > >> years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have
| > | > gotten it right by
| > | > >now.)
| > | > >> However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a
| > | > few pages, I'd
| > | > >strongly
| > | > >> advise a different tool.
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >.
| > | > >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Wes]

Vanna's cousin?

Google says:

"A karaoke competition at the Rainworth Miners Welfare Club brings Vince
Steel and Teena White together in an explosion of talent and creativity"

Now, I want to know who the heck Teena White is?

--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
===
| You might think so, but in reality, I'm actually Vince Steel, ladies
man.
|
| Bob Lehmann
|
| | > ...and at least you sign your name to your posts.
| >
| > --
| > ===
| > Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > ---
| > About FrontPage 2003:
| > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| > http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > Understanding FrontPage:
| > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| > ===
| > | > | Perhaps. But, at least I'm somewhat articulate, and capable of
correctly
| > | spelling 3 and 7 letter words.
| > |
| > | Bob Lehmann
| > |
| > | | > | > Bobb
| > | >
| > | > Once again you prove to all you are an askhole!
| > | >
| > | > >-----Original Message-----
| > | > >I'd like to mention that I had a similar experience with
| > | > Black & Decker. I
| > | > >bought a circular saw. And, even though I know little
| > | > about carpentry, and
| > | > >had no time to read the instructions, I went ahead
| > | > anyway. The stupid saw
| > | > >wouldn't cut straight lines no matter how hard I tried.
| > | > even changing the
| > | > >settings on the saw seemed to have no effect!
| > | > >
| > | > >PS - Your "S" key seems to be broken; It keeps coming out
| > | > as $. Oh, wait;
| > | > >You're trying to be funny or something, aren't you? If
| > | > you can't be funny,
| > | > >could you at least be original?
| > | > >
| > | > >Bob Lehmann
| > | > >
| > | > in message
| > | > >| > | > >> When I set out to document my company's software
| > | > development methodology,
| > | > >I
| > | > >> unwisely decided to ignore the advice of our technical
| > | > people, and used
| > | > >> Microsoft Front Page. I was cautious along the way,
| > | > building the site and
| > | > >> testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make
| > | > sure I wasn't painting
| > | > >> myself into a corner. Everything seemed okay. When I
| > | > was finished (2711
| > | > >> pages), I tested the site again, and everything
| > | > appeared to be working. I
| > | > >> then decided to rename some of the pages that had
| > | > blanks in them, so they
| > | > >> wouldn't show up as "%20". Again, having had long
| > | > experience with various
| > | > >> flakey Microsoft products, I made a few test changes,
| > | > recompiled, and
| > | > >> satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went
| > | > back and changed the
| > | > >> remaining pages.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies.
| > | > First, several pages
| > | > >> were not showing up on the button bar (they showed up
| > | > as red "x"s). When
| > | > >I
| > | > >> went back into Frontpage, and double clicked on the
| > | > suspect pages in the
| > | > >> navigator, I received an error message. I could see
| > | > that the pages were
| > | > >> still in the folders, so I was able to drag them back
| > | > to the navigator
| > | > >> structure, move their child pages, and remove the
| > | > broken page. Why did
| > | > >this
| > | > >> occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't
| > | > too bad - only took a
| > | > >> couple of hours to track down everything and fix it.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the
| > | > following error:
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Server error: The folder that would hold
| > | > URL 'reference/tasks/define
| > | > >object
| > | > >>
| > | > model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gi
| > | > f' does not
| > | > >exist
| > | > >> on the server
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was
| > | > supposed to do!
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Now, when I view the finished site, I have random
| > | > buttons showing up with
| > | > >> no text on them. They WORK, and if you hover over them
| > | > you see the right
| > | > >> path. Front Page simply fails to create the button
| > | > gifs with the right
| > | > >text
| > | > >> on them.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> This is really terrific. I've spent three months
| > | > creating this site, and
| > | > >> this piece of Microsoft crap not only ruins it, but
| > | > waits until it's
| > | > >> completed to do so. Could this really be an accident?
| > | > Or does Microsoft
| > | > >do
| > | > >> this on purpose?
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| > | > >> Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my
| > | > simple websites for
| > | > >> years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have
| > | > gotten it right by
| > | > >now.)
| > | > >> However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a
| > | > few pages, I'd
| > | > >strongly
| > | > >> advise a different tool.
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| > | > >>
| > | > >>
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| > | > >
| > | > >.
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