A print to and out of OneNote question

[Michael A]

Hi all.

Is there a good/easy way to do the following.

Normally, I can print to OneNote from an application (lets say Word).
The printout is an image contained in a "frame".

Two questions:
1. Can one print the image from OneNote without the frame?

The image naturally has the margins set as they were in Word (or whatever).
Lets say 1" all around. However, there is also a margin in OneNote. If I just
print it, I get the image with the original margin contained in the image
plus the margin from OneNote. It results in a smaller than ideal printout.

2. Can I print from OneNote without a margin?

--Mike

 

[Ghent96]

I'd love to know, too. My classmate just got OneNote, and we can't figure out
how the heck to even "print" documents from Word, or PDF, or PPT, into
OneNote at all! It's so difficult and obscure, no printer driver is listed,
no option to import...

Windows Journal on my tablet, however, works like a DREAM! It's so fast and
easy to print/convert anything into a Journal Note that I can write over. No
margin problems, no layers, nothing to worry about.

I'm getting the impression OneNote just flat sucks, if it's so hard to use,
compared to the older Journal program.

 

[Rainald Taesler]

I'd love to know, too. My classmate just got OneNote, and we can't
figure out how the heck to even "print" documents from Word, or
PDF, or PPT, into OneNote at all! It's so difficult and obscure, no
printer driver is listed, no option to import...

Could it be that you are running a Vista 64bit version??
The "Send to OneNote" printer is not supported for Vista-64.
But there are workarounds.

I'll show them to you if it's the 64-bit problem.

Windows Journal on my tablet, however, works like a DREAM! It's so
fast and easy to print/convert anything into a Journal Note that I
can write over. No margin problems, no layers, nothing to worry
about.

I can not see what - except the missing printer you are complaining
about.
Which margins?
What do you mean by "layers"?

I'm getting the impression OneNote just flat sucks, if it's so hard
to use, compared to the older Journal program.

For sure Journal is no substitute for OneNote.
OneNote has to offer so much more that I have hardly even opened Journal
since I got IN.

It's just like using Notepad or Wordpad for editing text compared to
Word.

Rainald

 

[Ghent96]

We found out about the 64-bit "problem". That's just absolute laziness and
greed on Microsoft's part - demanding that consumers use a non-functional
product then force them to buy yet another new one that does work. We know
about the workarounds, too, but they're far too unwieldy, far too complex.
Users should be able to focus on writing/typing their notes & learning... NOT
spending all this time downloading workarounds, converting files, converting
again, etc.

OneNote is bloatware. Even on his new 64-bit tablet it runs SLOW. My 5yr-old
1.5ghz tablet runs Journal lightning fast.

Windows Journal, by comparison, is so easy, so fast. Nearly instant
"printing" of all our class notes into .jnt format, so even if I forgot
before class, I'm up & writing my notes right as class starts. Forget
OneNote, it's a ripoff. Go back to Journal, especially until M$ gets their
act together on "printer" drivers and 64bit systems. It's not at all the same
analogy as wordpad or notepad... that's just Fanboi talk.

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Someway I can understand that you are angry.
You are disappointed.
AFAICS mainly out of no valid reasons.

What I can not understand at all, however, is the attitude as well as
the wording you are using.
Sorry to say so, but it seems as if you might not yet have left the
state of puberty. {siiiigh}

We found out about the 64-bit "problem".

OK.
Did you read the explanations? [1]

That's just absolute
laziness and greed on Microsoft's part - demanding that consumers
use a non-functional product then force them to buy yet another new
one that does work.
Nonsense.

We know about the workarounds, too, but they're
far too unwieldy, far too complex.

Do you really know the workarounds?
Using PDFCreator (freeware [OpenSource]) means just 1 step more than
printing into ON directly.

Users should be able to focus on writing/typing
their notes & learning...
RightyRight!

NOT spending all this time downloading workarounds,
converting files, converting again, etc.

RightyRight.
And not shouting around and bashing software they have not yet really

OneNote is bloatware.

Nonsense!
Can you pls explain the definition of "bloatware" and then say why ON
might be fulfilling the definition?

Even on his new 64-bit tablet it runs SLOW.

Who "his"?

On my 6-years-old HP tc1100 with a 1.0Ghz CPU OneNote is running
perfectly well (under XP as well as under Vista).

My 5yr-old 1.5ghz tablet runs Journal lightning fast.

"Journal" is running "lightnig fast" on any TabletPC.
But what might that mean?
On my machines OneNote is running with the same speed (or at least a
speed with no drawbacks).

Windows Journal, by comparison, is so easy, so fast. Nearly instant
"printing" of all our class notes into .jnt format, so even if I
forgot before class, I'm up & writing my notes right as class
starts. Forget OneNote, it's a ripoff.

Nobody forces you to use something else than your favorite application.
If Journal will be sufficient for *You*, OK, fine, just use it.

However, Journal is very far from being of too much use for others, f.e.
*Me*.
And I can only say: Doing so you would be simply be loosing too much.

Go back to Journal, especially until M$ gets their act
together on "printer" drivers and 64bit systems.

As said:
There is no *real* problem of using OneNote under Vista-64.
Not even printing into ON.
Just a problem in your mind {siiiigh}.
Printing to PDFCreator and then getting things into OneNote is just
*one* step more.
Would that mean a problem? Really?
Nebbich!

It's not at all the same analogy as wordpad or notepad...

For sure!
Any Argument against that?

that's just Fanboi talk.

Sorry, "Fanboi" is just a word outside of my language.
What might it mean?

Rainald
*---
[1] David Rasmussen: OneNote 64 bit print driver
ttp://blogs.msdn.com/david_rasmussen/archive/2008/04/21/onenote-64-bit-p
rint-driver.aspx

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Normally, I can print to OneNote from an application (lets say
Word).
The printout is an image contained in a "frame".

Yes, this the normal way of having "printouts" inserted in ON.

Two questions:
1. Can one print the image from OneNote without the frame?
No.

The image naturally has the margins set as they were in Word (or
whatever). Lets say 1" all around. However, there is also a margin
in OneNote. If I just print it, I get the image with the original
margin contained in the image plus the margin from OneNote. It
results in a smaller than ideal printout.

2. Can I print from OneNote without a margin?

NO.

The printer always takes the source as is.
Therefore the resulting *image* will always have the borders of the
original file.

Rainald

 

[Steve Silverwood]

Sorry, "Fanboi" is just a word outside of my language.
What might it mean?

I think our friend here meant "fanboy" -- meaning someone who is a
more or less blind follower, or "fan," who in this case mimics the
Microsoft party line.

Similar to someone who invariably votes Republican or Democrat or
whatever, because that's what the party says to vote for (or against)
and without bothering to look at the candidates/measures/etc.
individually.

//Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Email: (e-mail address removed)
Web: http://kb6ojs.com

 

[Rainald Taesler]

I think our friend here meant "fanboy" -- meaning someone who is a
more or less blind follower, or "fan," who in this case mimics the
Microsoft party line.

Similar to someone who invariably votes Republican or Democrat or
whatever, because that's what the party says to vote for (or
against) and without bothering to look at the
candidates/measures/etc. individually.

Oh, I see.
Thanks for explaining.

Rainald

 

[horiageorg]

My question is more practical:how to scan a page into .jnt format

 

[Rainald Taesler]

My question is more practical:how to scan a page into .jnt format?

No idea. Never heard of "jnt" format.

But: what might this have to do with OneNote?

Rainald

 

[Erik Sojka]

That's the file format for Windows Journal

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/tabletpc/russel_03january20.mspx

It's an older application (pre OneNote) which was a barebones note taking
application intended to show off some of the features of the Tablet PC.

Journal doesn't have anywhere near the features that OneNote has. Think of
the relationship between Wordpad and Word There is a Journal printer
which is installed on a Tablet PC (similar to the Send to OneNote printer)
and you can insert pictures into Journal. If the OP can scan the document
it can be printed to th Journal file using the Journal printer.

 

[Rainald Taesler]

That's the file format for Windows Journal

Oh I see. Thanks for the info.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/tabletpc/russel_03january20.mspx

Thanks. Check my TabletPC > Software section on ON and found the article

It's an older application (pre OneNote) which was a barebones note
taking application intended to show off some of the features of the
Tablet PC.

I did use it for a while but hardly ever since I got ON (v. 2003 for
some weeks and then the 2007 Beta).

Journal doesn't have anywhere near the features that OneNote has.
Think of the relationship between Wordpad and Word

I fully agree.
I have been using occasionally besides ON because some inking things
work better there and transferred things into ON.

There is a
Journal printer which is installed on a Tablet PC (similar to the
Send to OneNote printer) and you can insert pictures into Journal.
If the OP can scan the document it can be printed to th Journal
file using the Journal printer.

Yes, this might be a way. But still I can't see any relation to ON.

Rainald