Access Viewer

[Jan Il]

Hi All - Access 2002 XP - Win ME

Is there an Viewer for Access like the one for Word? I need to show a sample
of an Access app. on a machine that does not have Access loaded.

If so, I would truly appreciate a reference or a link where I can downloaded
it. I've been searching for one on the Internet for the past hour or so,
but, haven't turned up any information for one yet. Just thought I'd see if
one was available before I went any further.

Best regards.

Jan
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that's why they're so contagious.

 

[Lynn Trapp]

Jan,
Unfortunately, no, there isn't. Probably the best you could do is to create
a runtime version of the application, but that's only available if you have
the Developer's Edition of Access.

 

[Jan Il]

Hi Lynn!

Jan,
Unfortunately, no, there isn't. Probably the best you could do is to create
a runtime version of the application, but that's only available if you have
the Developer's Edition of Access.

Well...as I don't have the Developer's Edition, I won't be able to create a
runtime version. And...guess that s'plains why I couldn't find anything on
it....??? :=)

Thank you very much for your time and help, I truly appreciate it.

Best wishes.

Jan
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that's why they're so contagious.

 

[TC]

Maybe copy some screenshots to Powerpoint?

HTH,
TC

 

[Lynn Trapp]

Hi Jan!

Well...as I don't have the Developer's Edition, I won't be able to create a
runtime version. And...guess that s'plains why I couldn't find anything on
it....??? :=)

Yeah, that would kind of splain it...LOL. TC's suggestion to put some screen
shots in Power Point might work well. I would prefer to put them in Word,
though, because it's a little more flexible AND you can print it out as a
training document later on.

I hope something like that will help you do what you need to do.

 

[Jan Il]

Hi TC

Maybe copy some screenshots to Powerpoint?

Thank you very much for your time and help, I appreciate it very much. I had
not tought that, and it just might do the trick.

Jan
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious

 

[Lynn Trapp]

It sounds like you have it well in hand. Keep up the good work.

 

[Jan Il]

Hi Lynn

Hi Jan!
create
on it....??? :=)

Yeah, that would kind of splain it...LOL. TC's suggestion to put some screen
shots in Power Point might work well. I would prefer to put them in Word,
though, because it's a little more flexible AND you can print it out as a
training document later on.

Yes, Word may offer a bit more flexibility, as you say. I may want to add
some other informationl. I'm also thinking that once setup in Word, I could
then take some of them into PowerPoint to insert perhaps arrows and/or
call-outs that would also be animated for specific emphasis as well.

I hope something like that will help you do what you need to do.

Thank you very much for your time and help, I truly appreciate it. I'll
give them a go and see where I get......besides in trouble. ;=))

HAIW,

Jan
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[test]

Might be a nice little app: Access to Word or Powerpoint!

TC

 

[Jan Il]

Hi TC

Might be a nice little app: Access to Word or Powerpoint!

I've tested the concept of working between Access and Word before, to print
specific groups of inspection forms created in and stored in Word, which are
called from a filter or control form within Access. It does work well. Dirk
Goldgar created the exact function to do this for me some time ago, which we
will build into a new app. I am currently working on.

I've worked on a joint project between Access and PowerPoint, but, only for
a one shot event. I am also now working on a project for PowerPoint
maintenance training projects, including animated digital photos and data
controlled in Access. It's fun stuff. ;=)

Jan
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

 

[Jeff Conrad]

Hi Jan,

Just a suggestion from left field.
Do you or your office still have a copy of Office 97 Professional Edition?
On that CD is a program called Microsoft Camcorder.
In essence it is a utility that "records" what you are doing on the screen.
You press start to record and then stop to finish.
You can then compress and covert the .avi output file to an .exe file.
The file could still be pretty big if you record for a very long time, but burning it onto a CD
should be no problem.
You could break up certain aspects of the project into smaller chunks.

I have a personal restaurant database I have been working on for a couple of years and for Version
1.0 ALL of my Help files were created with this utility. For example, to display posting an invoice
I simply recorded an example. All of the Help topics were launched from a "Help Form." It worked
very well, but became too much maintenance as the project became MUCH bigger.

Since these are .exe files, virtually any computer should be able to open the files whether or not
they have any Access/Office version. I'm not sure if this utility came bundled with later Office
versions. I know you can also purchase programs like these as well.

Just a thought.

 

[Brendan Reynolds]

Unfortunately, Camcorder doesn't work with recent versions of Windows. Some
problem with a missing video codec, whatever that means.

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[Jeff Conrad]

Hi Brendan,

Are you referring to the actual recording process or the 'playing' process on later Windows
versions?
I know the utility could not record using an NT machine, but I could play them on one.
I used 98 to record all the Help files.
Since Jan is still using ME, maybe by chance it works with that OS???

Just a thought.
Do you know if that came bundled with 2000, 2002, or 2003?

 

[Brendan Reynolds]

Recording. I don't think it will work with ME, but it's been a while, I
could be wrong. And no, it was not included with any version later than 97.

--
Brendan Reynolds (MVP)
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The spammers and script-kiddies have succeeded in making it impossible for
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from brenreyn at indigo dot ie that is not digitally signed by me with a
GlobalSign digital certificate is a forgery and should be deleted without
being read. Follow-up questions should in general be posted to the
newsgroup, but if you have a good reason to send me e-mail, you'll find
a useable e-mail address at the URL above.

 

[Jeff Conrad]

Hi Brendan,

Humm...I may just have to test this out with different configurations for my own curiosity.
Thanks for the info.

 

[Jan Il]

Hey Jeff!

Hi Jan,

Just a suggestion from left field.
Do you or your office still have a copy of Office 97 Professional Edition?
On that CD is a program called Microsoft Camcorder.
In essence it is a utility that "records" what you are doing on the screen.
You press start to record and then stop to finish.
You can then compress and covert the .avi output file to an .exe file.
The file could still be pretty big if you record for a very long time, but burning it onto a CD
should be no problem.
You could break up certain aspects of the project into smaller chunks.

I have a personal restaurant database I have been working on for a couple of years and for Version
1.0 ALL of my Help files were created with this utility. For example, to display posting an invoice
I simply recorded an example. All of the Help topics were launched from a "Help Form." It worked
very well, but became too much maintenance as the project became MUCH bigger.

Since these are .exe files, virtually any computer should be able to open the files whether or not
they have any Access/Office version. I'm not sure if this utility came bundled with later Office
versions. I know you can also purchase programs like these as well.

Just a thought.

And it sounds like a very good idea one, too! But, neither I, or the
company, ever had Access 97, as we went from Word Perfect straight to Office
2000. I still have ME at home, but, we have NT at work. I have heard of
similar programs that you probably are thinking of too. I'll check out the
possiblities of some of them, as it might be worth it in presenting app.
excerpts on machines that don't have Access.

I'm in Virginia at the moment, so I can't check my home machine right now,
but, as you mention this, it seems to me I have seen something in reference
to a 'Camcorder' in my trees somewhere on the hard drive and I just never
paid attention to it. It may be someting that came with another program I
have, or just a thingie to 'go with'. I'll check this out when I get home.

Thank you very much for the additional information. It would be nice if
they had continued to include such a function with their newer Office

--
Jeff Conrad
Access Junkie
Bend, Oregon
*281 Days Left*

And counting!! ;=)))

Jan
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

 

[Jeff Conrad]

Hi Jan,

And it sounds like a very good idea one, too! But, neither I, or the
company, ever had Access 97, as we went from Word Perfect straight to Office
2000. I still have ME at home, but, we have NT at work. I have heard of
similar programs that you probably are thinking of too. I'll check out the
possiblities of some of them, as it might be worth it in presenting app.
excerpts on machines that don't have Access.

Sounds like Camcorder might not be an option based on Brendan's observations.

I'm in Virginia at the moment, so I can't check my home machine right now,
but, as you mention this, it seems to me I have seen something in reference
to a 'Camcorder' in my trees somewhere on the hard drive and I just never
paid attention to it. It may be someting that came with another program I
have, or just a thingie to 'go with'. I'll check this out when I get home.

Well you may find this to be a complete surprise, especially since you are a "PowerPoint Junkie",
but have you looked at the Producer Add-In for Powerpoint 2002 and 2003? I did a little research and
came across it. I've never heard of it, but it appears to do basically the same thing as Camcorder
does (not positive though).

The 2003 Producer Add-In works with PowerPoint 2002 and 2003. I know you have 2002, but the OS may
be a problem. It looks like it won't work on ME. The articles say "not supported" so it may not
install at all or it will, but you would not receive any support for problems. Not sure.

Here are some links to get you started:

http://www.microsoft.com/office/powerpoint/producer/prodinfo/overview.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/office/powerpoint/producer/prodinfo/sysreq.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...D5-FC75-4F99-94BC-784919468E73&displaylang=en

http://office.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?Scope=DC&Query=producer&CTT=6&Origin=EC010331121033

(Watch out for any line wrapping)

I would definitely ask your PowerPoint MVP friends about it. Maybe someone has a spot to download
the older 2002-only Add-In which might work on ME. Just a thought.

Thank you very much for the additional information. It would be nice if
they had continued to include such a function with their newer Office
versions, or at least an add-to maybe. Perhaps I can make a wish?? <g>

Well your wish may have already been granted.

And counting!! ;=)))

You might be the only one who understands what that is.
;-)

--
Jeff Conrad
Access Junkie
Bend, Oregon
*281 Days Left*

 

[TC]

Sounds interesting!

The ability to "automate" the various Office applications, is one of
Microsoft's primary achievements, from a software viewpoint, IMO. When I
started in computing maaaany years ago, there was no way that seperate
programs could communicate, except by flat-file import/export. Now, your
Access application can run the other Office applications automatically -
even "behind the scenes" (with no user interface) - to do whatever they need
to do.

All good stuff!

Cheers,
TC

 

[TC]

I'd never heard of camcorder!

I just tried it out on win 98, & it worked fine. About 20 seconds
recording gave a 10Mb AVI file (gak!), but a 300Kb stand-alone EXE
file! So the EXE option seems the way to go. (And, the AVI file did
not play back correctly with Windows Media Player v9.)

It seems to use some VXD's, so that is why it would only work on win
9x. MS must have decided not to rewrite those for win 2k+.

I guess the "win 9x only" restriction will kill it eventually. But it
has certainly prompted me to think of looking at similar products for
creating tutorials and help information.

Cheers,
TC

 

[Jan Il]

Hi Jeff!

Hi Jan,



Sounds like Camcorder might not be an option based on Brendan's observations. home.

Well you may find this to be a complete surprise, especially since you are a "PowerPoint Junkie",
but have you looked at the Producer Add-In for Powerpoint 2002 and 2003? I did a little research and
came across it. I've never heard of it, but it appears to do basically the same thing as Camcorder
does (not positive though).

The 2003 Producer Add-In works with PowerPoint 2002 and 2003. I know you have 2002, but the OS may
be a problem. It looks like it won't work on ME. The articles say "not supported" so it may not
install at all or it will, but you would not receive any support for problems. Not sure.

Here are some links to get you started:

http://www.microsoft.com/office/powerpoint/producer/prodinfo/overview.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/office/powerpoint/producer/prodinfo/sysreq.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...D5-FC75-4F99-94BC-784919468E73&displaylang=en
http://office.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?Scope=DC&Query=producer&CTT=6&Origin=EC010331121033

(Watch out for any line wrapping)

I would definitely ask your PowerPoint MVP friends about it. Maybe someone has a spot to download
the older 2002-only Add-In which might work on ME. Just a thought.

Yes, I have heard of this, and thought about that too, but, with ME, I have
not had much luck with some of the newer add-ins, either installing
properly, or working properly. I'll to attenting the 2nd annual PowerPoint
Live Conference being held in San Diego in Oct this year, and I'll be able
to meet up again with my PPT MVP buddies Steve Rindsberg, Brian Rielly, and
a few of the other top PPT graphics and media MVP's who will be hosting the
various siminars there, as well as John Langhans, MS PowerPoint
Supportability Program Manager, and Richard Brettschneider, Lead Program
Manager for PowerPoint, who will also be attending again this year. Sooo...
I'll make this one of my primary investigation projects while there. ;=))

Well your wish may have already been granted.

You might be the only one who understands what that is.
;-)

LOL!! W'll hey....the Gold Star calendar on the wall over my 'puter is
totally dedicated to that! ;=))

Jan