Advice on Template Numbering Scheme

[Gary L. Hunt]

Would appreciate your help in devising a cleaner numbering scheme for an
outline template that I use to put class material together. I set numbering
style via VBA code thanks to Dave Rado's great articles as well as others.

My problem though has to do with how many numbering styles do I need for my
template that I am redoing? Right now I have three sets of numbered styles
to handle the three main sections of my outlines but I would like to
streamline these if possible because I have just duplicated some styles that
I believe is unnecessary. here is the example of what I current have below.

Introduction - IntroHead 1
A. Introhead2
1. Introhead3

I. Heading 1
A. Heading 2
1. Heading 3
a) Heading 4

Conclusion CloseHead1
A. Closehead 2
1. Closehead 3

Assuming I keep using the standard heading styles 1-4, what would you
suggest I use for the introduction and conclusion sections. Should I use
one other numbered set of headings instead of two or should I use an
unnumbered heading 1 for the text introduction and conclusion? Or,
something else?

I would appreciate your help because I know I can use less styles than I am
doing now. Thank you so much for your help.

Gary Hunt

 

[Bruce Brown]

Gary -

To the naked eye it looks as if your IntroHead and CloseHead styles
are exactly the same. It also looks as if level 1 for both styles is
text only, no numbering.

If this is the case, my hunch is you could simply use one of these
styles and forget about the other. Whichever you use, the numbered
levels 2 and 3 will restart after the non-numbered level 1.

As for your actual numbering requirements, only you can determine that
based on how you think your material should best be organized.

Enjoyed your website. - Bruce

 

[Gary L. Hunt]

Bruce,

Thanks for the reply and for you comment on my Web site. As to I am
reworking of my template, I believe I probably will get rid of the CloseHead
styles that are duplicates. Wish I could think of a more descriptive name
for these headings that cover introduction and closing remarks in the
outlines.

Or, if I don't do this, I might junk the IntroHead styles altogether and
just make an UnNumbered Heading style for the Introduction and Conclusion
text followed by heading 2 styles starting the point under letter A. But I
appreciate your input on this.

If anyone else has any other suggestions, I would be glad to hear them.
Thank you.

Gary

 

[Bruce Brown]

Gary -

Whoops, inadvertently gave you a bum steer here:

Whichever you use, the numbered
levels 2 and 3 will restart after the non-numbered level 1.

Wrong! Numbering will not restart after an outline style with <none>
as the number format. But if you use a number format -- any one, it
doesn't matter -- then make the font hidden, that will restart higher
levels.

Sorry about that. - Bruce

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

as the number format. But if you use a number format -- any one, it
doesn't matter -- then make the font hidden, that will restart higher
levels.

Are you sure about that? I believe it is possible to restart numbering with
an unnumbered style, as that is the whole premise of the List Number 0
approach, and the renumbering option is not disabled if you set Level 1 to
"(none)." What I would try is the following:

Introduction Unnumbered Head
A. Heading 2
1. Heading 3

I. Heading 1
A. Heading 2
1. Heading 3
a) Heading 4

Conclusion Unnumbered Head
A. Heading 2
1. Heading 3

It should be possible to set up two list templates, one linked to Headings
1-4 and one linked to Unnumbered Head and Headings 2 and 3. I don't see any
reason that linking the same styles to two list templates would cause
problems, but I'm deeply ignorant about this, so I could be wrong.

The alternative would be to use Heading 1 (unnumbered) as the top level for
a single list template and manually add the numbering to the top-level
headings (as needed). As long as you are not picking up the Heading 1
numbering is lower-level heads (that is, as long as you're not doing 1, 1.1,
1.1.1-type numbering), this should not cause any problem.

 

[Bruce Brown]

Suzanne:

Are you sure about that? I believe it is possible to restart numbering with
an unnumbered style, as that is the whole premise of the List Number 0
approach, and the renumbering option is not disabled if you set Level 1 to
"(none)."

I tested using <none> as the number format and found, as stated, that
it did not re-start the higher level. Explanation: it was a level
*higher than 1* on which I did the test.

So you're right. The List 0 dummy style *is* based on that premise and
will re-start higher levels because it holds the level 1 slot. And
I'm right too: at levels higher than 1, the <none> style will not
re-start the next higher levels.

You said:

It should be possible to set up two list templates, one linked to Headings
1-4 and one linked to Unnumbered Head and Headings 2 and 3. I don't see any
reason that linking the same styles to two list templates would cause
problems

No can do. A style can be linked to only one list template at only one
level, so you can't have Heading styles in two different list
templates at the same time.

P.S. Good to see you back. Your absence was conspicuous and
ubiquitous.

- Bruce

 

[Gary L. Hunt]

Bruce and Suzanne,

Thanks to you both. Always glad to hear from you both. As for my restart,
I use the Outline Title to restart my heading 1 levels. Outline Title has
no numbering but is linked to level 1 of the List template containing the
heading styles where Heading 1 is linked to level 2 and so on. Seems to
work in a document where I have several outlines, one in each section with a
table of contents at the front.

As for the other list template intorhead, it restarts with Inrohead 1 which
is unnumbered at level 1. Thanks very much to all and again for Dave Rado
and others who helped with the concept of doing these styles via VBA.

Gary

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Suzanne:


I tested using <none> as the number format and found, as stated, that
it did not re-start the higher level. Explanation: it was a level
*higher than 1* on which I did the test.

So you're right. The List 0 dummy style *is* based on that premise and
will re-start higher levels because it holds the level 1 slot. And
I'm right too: at levels higher than 1, the <none> style will not
re-start the next higher levels.

You said:


No can do. A style can be linked to only one list template at only one
level, so you can't have Heading styles in two different list
templates at the same time.

P.S. Good to see you back. Your absence was conspicuous and
ubiquitous.

- Bruce



Are you sure about that? I believe it is possible to restart numbering with
an unnumbered style, as that is the whole premise of the List Number 0
approach, and the renumbering option is not disabled if you set Level 1 to
"(none)." What I would try is the following:

Introduction Unnumbered Head
A. Heading 2
1. Heading 3

I. Heading 1
A. Heading 2
1. Heading 3
a) Heading 4

Conclusion Unnumbered Head
A. Heading 2
1. Heading 3

It should be possible to set up two list templates, one linked to Headings
1-4 and one linked to Unnumbered Head and Headings 2 and 3. I don't see any
reason that linking the same styles to two list templates would cause
problems, but I'm deeply ignorant about this, so I could be wrong.

The alternative would be to use Heading 1 (unnumbered) as the top level for
a single list template and manually add the numbering to the top-level
headings (as needed). As long as you are not picking up the Heading 1
numbering is lower-level heads (that is, as long as you're not doing 1, 1.1,
1.1.1-type numbering), this should not cause any problem.





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