all MS programs encounter errors and shut down

N

Nancy

OK let's see if I can get it typed this time without a shutdown of IE. Any
MS program I use encounters error after 2-5 mintues and shutsdown. All
Office products, Front Page, Publisher, IE MS anti spyware. Randomly. I am
running Windows XP and Office XP with all updates current. I just loaded the
new MS Defender also. I have Norton too. This is a new computer.
 
N

Nancy

A white box pops up and it will say: MS "word" (or whichever program I'm in)
encounterd and error and needs to close. Then it gives me the choice if I
want to report to MS or not. I have been. I also went to control
panel>administrative tools> event viewer and I can see many items in here but
don't know what to do from here.
I have repaired office, didn't help. Uninstalled office and installed
office. None seem to help. After I had uninstalled office and before I had
installed it again, I was in EI and got the same error again...so that was
without any office program on my computer.

JoAnn Paules said:
Can you tell us exactly what happens? Exactly error messages, etc.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Nancy said:
OK let's see if I can get it typed this time without a shutdown of IE.
Any
MS program I use encounters error after 2-5 mintues and shutsdown. All
Office products, Front Page, Publisher, IE MS anti spyware. Randomly. I
am
running Windows XP and Office XP with all updates current. I just loaded
the
new MS Defender also. I have Norton too. This is a new computer.
 
D

David Bartosik

This forum on Publisher web design is not really a place to get the best help
for such an issue(s).
You should be using a Windows XP support forum.
Most likely Windows XP is shutting things down due to some issue so that it
can protect the state of the OS, that's what it's designed to do.
Some common sense things to try before you seek help from Windows XP experts
would be ....
1) uninstall Norton (crap imo and others) and see if that helps.
2) use system restore. restore to a previous time when you thing the pc ran
fine.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.davidbartosik.com


Nancy said:
A white box pops up and it will say: MS "word" (or whichever program I'm in)
encounterd and error and needs to close. Then it gives me the choice if I
want to report to MS or not. I have been. I also went to control
panel>administrative tools> event viewer and I can see many items in here but
don't know what to do from here.
I have repaired office, didn't help. Uninstalled office and installed
office. None seem to help. After I had uninstalled office and before I had
installed it again, I was in EI and got the same error again...so that was
without any office program on my computer.

JoAnn Paules said:
Can you tell us exactly what happens? Exactly error messages, etc.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Nancy said:
OK let's see if I can get it typed this time without a shutdown of IE.
Any
MS program I use encounters error after 2-5 mintues and shutsdown. All
Office products, Front Page, Publisher, IE MS anti spyware. Randomly. I
am
running Windows XP and Office XP with all updates current. I just loaded
the
new MS Defender also. I have Norton too. This is a new computer.
 
E

EOJ

I have had (am still having) the same problems as above, even after
re-installing microsoft office - nothing microsoft supplies has fixed this
problem, as a last resort i am burning all me files to dvd and transferring
to a Mac - atleast thier software works.

David Bartosik said:
This forum on Publisher web design is not really a place to get the best help
for such an issue(s).
You should be using a Windows XP support forum.
Most likely Windows XP is shutting things down due to some issue so that it
can protect the state of the OS, that's what it's designed to do.
Some common sense things to try before you seek help from Windows XP experts
would be ....
1) uninstall Norton (crap imo and others) and see if that helps.
2) use system restore. restore to a previous time when you thing the pc ran
fine.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.davidbartosik.com


Nancy said:
A white box pops up and it will say: MS "word" (or whichever program I'm in)
encounterd and error and needs to close. Then it gives me the choice if I
want to report to MS or not. I have been. I also went to control
panel>administrative tools> event viewer and I can see many items in here but
don't know what to do from here.
I have repaired office, didn't help. Uninstalled office and installed
office. None seem to help. After I had uninstalled office and before I had
installed it again, I was in EI and got the same error again...so that was
without any office program on my computer.

JoAnn Paules said:
Can you tell us exactly what happens? Exactly error messages, etc.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



OK let's see if I can get it typed this time without a shutdown of IE.
Any
MS program I use encounters error after 2-5 mintues and shutsdown. All
Office products, Front Page, Publisher, IE MS anti spyware. Randomly. I
am
running Windows XP and Office XP with all updates current. I just loaded
the
new MS Defender also. I have Norton too. This is a new computer.
 
D

DavidF

And so, why do you think you will get different advice by posting again to
the Publisher newsgroup? As David suggested, post to the Windows XP group.

DavidF

EOJ said:
I have had (am still having) the same problems as above, even after
re-installing microsoft office - nothing microsoft supplies has fixed this
problem, as a last resort i am burning all me files to dvd and
transferring
to a Mac - atleast thier software works.

David Bartosik said:
This forum on Publisher web design is not really a place to get the best
help
for such an issue(s).
You should be using a Windows XP support forum.
Most likely Windows XP is shutting things down due to some issue so that
it
can protect the state of the OS, that's what it's designed to do.
Some common sense things to try before you seek help from Windows XP
experts
would be ....
1) uninstall Norton (crap imo and others) and see if that helps.
2) use system restore. restore to a previous time when you thing the pc
ran
fine.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.davidbartosik.com


Nancy said:
A white box pops up and it will say: MS "word" (or whichever program
I'm in)
encounterd and error and needs to close. Then it gives me the choice if
I
want to report to MS or not. I have been. I also went to control
panel>administrative tools> event viewer and I can see many items in
here but
don't know what to do from here.
I have repaired office, didn't help. Uninstalled office and installed
office. None seem to help. After I had uninstalled office and before I
had
installed it again, I was in EI and got the same error again...so that
was
without any office program on my computer.

:

Can you tell us exactly what happens? Exactly error messages, etc.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



OK let's see if I can get it typed this time without a shutdown of
IE.
Any
MS program I use encounters error after 2-5 mintues and shutsdown.
All
Office products, Front Page, Publisher, IE MS anti spyware.
Randomly. I
am
running Windows XP and Office XP with all updates current. I just
loaded
the
new MS Defender also. I have Norton too. This is a new computer.
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

It's pretty simple...you're in the wrong newsgroup to get much help with
your problem. THIS newsgroup is dedicated to MS Publisher.

You obviously cannot follow simple directions, so yes...you should go out
and buy a Mac right away...it will solve all your problems.



|I have had (am still having) the same problems as above, even after
| re-installing microsoft office - nothing microsoft supplies has fixed this
| problem, as a last resort i am burning all me files to dvd and
transferring
| to a Mac - atleast thier software works.
|
| "David Bartosik" wrote:
|
| > This forum on Publisher web design is not really a place to get the best
help
| > for such an issue(s).
| > You should be using a Windows XP support forum.
| > Most likely Windows XP is shutting things down due to some issue so that
it
| > can protect the state of the OS, that's what it's designed to do.
| > Some common sense things to try before you seek help from Windows XP
experts
| > would be ....
| > 1) uninstall Norton (crap imo and others) and see if that helps.
| > 2) use system restore. restore to a previous time when you thing the pc
ran
| > fine.
| >
| > --
| > David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
| > http://www.davidbartosik.com
| >
| >
| > "Nancy" wrote:
| >
| > > A white box pops up and it will say: MS "word" (or whichever program
I'm in)
| > > encounterd and error and needs to close. Then it gives me the choice
if I
| > > want to report to MS or not. I have been. I also went to control
| > > panel>administrative tools> event viewer and I can see many items in
here but
| > > don't know what to do from here.
| > > I have repaired office, didn't help. Uninstalled office and installed
| > > office. None seem to help. After I had uninstalled office and before I
had
| > > installed it again, I was in EI and got the same error again...so that
was
| > > without any office program on my computer.
| > >
| > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
| > >
| > > > Can you tell us exactly what happens? Exactly error messages, etc.
| > > >
| > > > --
| > > >
| > > > JoAnn Paules
| > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > | > > > > OK let's see if I can get it typed this time without a shutdown of
IE.
| > > > > Any
| > > > > MS program I use encounters error after 2-5 mintues and shutsdown.
All
| > > > > Office products, Front Page, Publisher, IE MS anti spyware.
Randomly. I
| > > > > am
| > > > > running Windows XP and Office XP with all updates current. I just
loaded
| > > > > the
| > > > > new MS Defender also. I have Norton too. This is a new computer.
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
 
D

DavidF

}:>)

Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
It's pretty simple...you're in the wrong newsgroup to get much help with
your problem. THIS newsgroup is dedicated to MS Publisher.

You obviously cannot follow simple directions, so yes...you should go out
and buy a Mac right away...it will solve all your problems.



|I have had (am still having) the same problems as above, even after
| re-installing microsoft office - nothing microsoft supplies has fixed
this
| problem, as a last resort i am burning all me files to dvd and
transferring
| to a Mac - atleast thier software works.
|
| "David Bartosik" wrote:
|
| > This forum on Publisher web design is not really a place to get the
best
help
| > for such an issue(s).
| > You should be using a Windows XP support forum.
| > Most likely Windows XP is shutting things down due to some issue so
that
it
| > can protect the state of the OS, that's what it's designed to do.
| > Some common sense things to try before you seek help from Windows XP
experts
| > would be ....
| > 1) uninstall Norton (crap imo and others) and see if that helps.
| > 2) use system restore. restore to a previous time when you thing the
pc
ran
| > fine.
| >
| > --
| > David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
| > http://www.davidbartosik.com
| >
| >
| > "Nancy" wrote:
| >
| > > A white box pops up and it will say: MS "word" (or whichever program
I'm in)
| > > encounterd and error and needs to close. Then it gives me the choice
if I
| > > want to report to MS or not. I have been. I also went to control
| > > panel>administrative tools> event viewer and I can see many items in
here but
| > > don't know what to do from here.
| > > I have repaired office, didn't help. Uninstalled office and
installed
| > > office. None seem to help. After I had uninstalled office and before
I
had
| > > installed it again, I was in EI and got the same error again...so
that
was
| > > without any office program on my computer.
| > >
| > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
| > >
| > > > Can you tell us exactly what happens? Exactly error messages, etc.
| > > >
| > > > --
| > > >
| > > > JoAnn Paules
| > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > | > > > > OK let's see if I can get it typed this time without a shutdown
of
IE.
| > > > > Any
| > > > > MS program I use encounters error after 2-5 mintues and
shutsdown.
All
| > > > > Office products, Front Page, Publisher, IE MS anti spyware.
Randomly. I
| > > > > am
| > > > > running Windows XP and Office XP with all updates current. I
just
loaded
| > > > > the
| > > > > new MS Defender also. I have Norton too. This is a new
computer.
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
 
E

EOJ

i DID write it in the office newsgroup - it says office in the box above this
reply. typical - even microsofts websites suck. i have no idea as to why you
unhelpful people got to read it in your newsgroup.

DavidF said:
}:>)

Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
It's pretty simple...you're in the wrong newsgroup to get much help with
your problem. THIS newsgroup is dedicated to MS Publisher.

You obviously cannot follow simple directions, so yes...you should go out
and buy a Mac right away...it will solve all your problems.



|I have had (am still having) the same problems as above, even after
| re-installing microsoft office - nothing microsoft supplies has fixed
this
| problem, as a last resort i am burning all me files to dvd and
transferring
| to a Mac - atleast thier software works.
|
| "David Bartosik" wrote:
|
| > This forum on Publisher web design is not really a place to get the
best
help
| > for such an issue(s).
| > You should be using a Windows XP support forum.
| > Most likely Windows XP is shutting things down due to some issue so
that
it
| > can protect the state of the OS, that's what it's designed to do.
| > Some common sense things to try before you seek help from Windows XP
experts
| > would be ....
| > 1) uninstall Norton (crap imo and others) and see if that helps.
| > 2) use system restore. restore to a previous time when you thing the
pc
ran
| > fine.
| >
| > --
| > David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
| > http://www.davidbartosik.com
| >
| >
| > "Nancy" wrote:
| >
| > > A white box pops up and it will say: MS "word" (or whichever program
I'm in)
| > > encounterd and error and needs to close. Then it gives me the choice
if I
| > > want to report to MS or not. I have been. I also went to control
| > > panel>administrative tools> event viewer and I can see many items in
here but
| > > don't know what to do from here.
| > > I have repaired office, didn't help. Uninstalled office and
installed
| > > office. None seem to help. After I had uninstalled office and before
I
had
| > > installed it again, I was in EI and got the same error again...so
that
was
| > > without any office program on my computer.
| > >
| > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
| > >
| > > > Can you tell us exactly what happens? Exactly error messages, etc.
| > > >
| > > > --
| > > >
| > > > JoAnn Paules
| > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > | > > > > OK let's see if I can get it typed this time without a shutdown
of
IE.
| > > > > Any
| > > > > MS program I use encounters error after 2-5 mintues and
shutsdown.
All
| > > > > Office products, Front Page, Publisher, IE MS anti spyware.
Randomly. I
| > > > > am
| > > > > running Windows XP and Office XP with all updates current. I
just
loaded
| > > > > the
| > > > > new MS Defender also. I have Norton too. This is a new
computer.
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

For future questions, use the Google Groups interface if you aren't going to
set them up for a newsreader in Outlook Express. I don't like the MS
interface either. It takes **forever** to do anything, even with broadband.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



EOJ said:
i DID write it in the office newsgroup - it says office in the box above
this
reply. typical - even microsofts websites suck. i have no idea as to why
you
unhelpful people got to read it in your newsgroup.

DavidF said:
}:>)

Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
It's pretty simple...you're in the wrong newsgroup to get much help
with
your problem. THIS newsgroup is dedicated to MS Publisher.

You obviously cannot follow simple directions, so yes...you should go
out
and buy a Mac right away...it will solve all your problems.



|I have had (am still having) the same problems as above, even after
| re-installing microsoft office - nothing microsoft supplies has fixed
this
| problem, as a last resort i am burning all me files to dvd and
transferring
| to a Mac - atleast thier software works.
|
| "David Bartosik" wrote:
|
| > This forum on Publisher web design is not really a place to get the
best
help
| > for such an issue(s).
| > You should be using a Windows XP support forum.
| > Most likely Windows XP is shutting things down due to some issue so
that
it
| > can protect the state of the OS, that's what it's designed to do.
| > Some common sense things to try before you seek help from Windows
XP
experts
| > would be ....
| > 1) uninstall Norton (crap imo and others) and see if that helps.
| > 2) use system restore. restore to a previous time when you thing
the
pc
ran
| > fine.
| >
| > --
| > David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
| > http://www.davidbartosik.com
| >
| >
| > "Nancy" wrote:
| >
| > > A white box pops up and it will say: MS "word" (or whichever
program
I'm in)
| > > encounterd and error and needs to close. Then it gives me the
choice
if I
| > > want to report to MS or not. I have been. I also went to control
| > > panel>administrative tools> event viewer and I can see many items
in
here but
| > > don't know what to do from here.
| > > I have repaired office, didn't help. Uninstalled office and
installed
| > > office. None seem to help. After I had uninstalled office and
before
I
had
| > > installed it again, I was in EI and got the same error again...so
that
was
| > > without any office program on my computer.
| > >
| > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
| > >
| > > > Can you tell us exactly what happens? Exactly error messages,
etc.
| > > >
| > > > --
| > > >
| > > > JoAnn Paules
| > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > | > > > > OK let's see if I can get it typed this time without a
shutdown
of
IE.
| > > > > Any
| > > > > MS program I use encounters error after 2-5 mintues and
shutsdown.
All
| > > > > Office products, Front Page, Publisher, IE MS anti spyware.
Randomly. I
| > > > > am
| > > > > running Windows XP and Office XP with all updates current. I
just
loaded
| > > > > the
| > > > > new MS Defender also. I have Norton too. This is a new
computer.
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

Well, maybe you're cross-posting. But the header shows you are posting to
microsoft.public.PUBLISHER.webdesign.

No, matter. IF you post to the correct newsgroup you will undoubtedly get
help. There are LOTS of people that will help you for FREE...just discribe
the problem accurately and you'll be fine....or buy a Mac if that's what
toots your horn. Hint: ALL computers and programs have problems...including
Macs. My best friend's Mac is on it's 3rd hardrive in one year. My brother's
3 year old Mac just fried it's motherboard...go figure!

Another hint: Norton/Symantec sucks.




|i DID write it in the office newsgroup - it says office in the box above
this
| reply. typical - even microsofts websites suck. i have no idea as to why
you
| unhelpful people got to read it in your newsgroup.
|
| "DavidF" wrote:
|
| > }:>)
| >
message
| > | > > It's pretty simple...you're in the wrong newsgroup to get much help
with
| > > your problem. THIS newsgroup is dedicated to MS Publisher.
| > >
| > > You obviously cannot follow simple directions, so yes...you should go
out
| > > and buy a Mac right away...it will solve all your problems.
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > | > > |I have had (am still having) the same problems as above, even after
| > > | re-installing microsoft office - nothing microsoft supplies has
fixed
| > > this
| > > | problem, as a last resort i am burning all me files to dvd and
| > > transferring
| > > | to a Mac - atleast thier software works.
| > > |
| > > | "David Bartosik" wrote:
| > > |
| > > | > This forum on Publisher web design is not really a place to get
the
| > > best
| > > help
| > > | > for such an issue(s).
| > > | > You should be using a Windows XP support forum.
| > > | > Most likely Windows XP is shutting things down due to some issue
so
| > > that
| > > it
| > > | > can protect the state of the OS, that's what it's designed to do.
| > > | > Some common sense things to try before you seek help from Windows
XP
| > > experts
| > > | > would be ....
| > > | > 1) uninstall Norton (crap imo and others) and see if that helps.
| > > | > 2) use system restore. restore to a previous time when you thing
the
| > > pc
| > > ran
| > > | > fine.
| > > | >
| > > | > --
| > > | > David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
| > > | > http://www.davidbartosik.com
| > > | >
| > > | >
| > > | > "Nancy" wrote:
| > > | >
| > > | > > A white box pops up and it will say: MS "word" (or whichever
program
| > > I'm in)
| > > | > > encounterd and error and needs to close. Then it gives me the
choice
| > > if I
| > > | > > want to report to MS or not. I have been. I also went to
control
| > > | > > panel>administrative tools> event viewer and I can see many
items in
| > > here but
| > > | > > don't know what to do from here.
| > > | > > I have repaired office, didn't help. Uninstalled office and
| > > installed
| > > | > > office. None seem to help. After I had uninstalled office and
before
| > > I
| > > had
| > > | > > installed it again, I was in EI and got the same error
again...so
| > > that
| > > was
| > > | > > without any office program on my computer.
| > > | > >
| > > | > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
| > > | > >
| > > | > > > Can you tell us exactly what happens? Exactly error messages,
etc.
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > --
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > JoAnn Paules
| > > | > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > | > > | > > > > OK let's see if I can get it typed this time without a
shutdown
| > > of
| > > IE.
| > > | > > > > Any
| > > | > > > > MS program I use encounters error after 2-5 mintues and
| > > shutsdown.
| > > All
| > > | > > > > Office products, Front Page, Publisher, IE MS anti spyware.
| > > Randomly. I
| > > | > > > > am
| > > | > > > > running Windows XP and Office XP with all updates current.
I
| > > just
| > > loaded
| > > | > > > > the
| > > | > > > > new MS Defender also. I have Norton too. This is a new
| > > computer.
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > >
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
| >
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

I used to be a big Norton fan - and then they starting discontinuing AV
updates for software that wasn't very old and the price for those updates
skyrocketed from $5 a year to $20.

I use AVG and recommend it to anyone and everyone.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
Well, maybe you're cross-posting. But the header shows you are posting to
microsoft.public.PUBLISHER.webdesign.

No, matter. IF you post to the correct newsgroup you will undoubtedly get
help. There are LOTS of people that will help you for FREE...just discribe
the problem accurately and you'll be fine....or buy a Mac if that's what
toots your horn. Hint: ALL computers and programs have
problems...including
Macs. My best friend's Mac is on it's 3rd hardrive in one year. My
brother's
3 year old Mac just fried it's motherboard...go figure!

Another hint: Norton/Symantec sucks.




|i DID write it in the office newsgroup - it says office in the box above
this
| reply. typical - even microsofts websites suck. i have no idea as to why
you
| unhelpful people got to read it in your newsgroup.
|
| "DavidF" wrote:
|
| > }:>)
| >
message
| > | > > It's pretty simple...you're in the wrong newsgroup to get much help
with
| > > your problem. THIS newsgroup is dedicated to MS Publisher.
| > >
| > > You obviously cannot follow simple directions, so yes...you should
go
out
| > > and buy a Mac right away...it will solve all your problems.
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > | > > |I have had (am still having) the same problems as above, even after
| > > | re-installing microsoft office - nothing microsoft supplies has
fixed
| > > this
| > > | problem, as a last resort i am burning all me files to dvd and
| > > transferring
| > > | to a Mac - atleast thier software works.
| > > |
| > > | "David Bartosik" wrote:
| > > |
| > > | > This forum on Publisher web design is not really a place to get
the
| > > best
| > > help
| > > | > for such an issue(s).
| > > | > You should be using a Windows XP support forum.
| > > | > Most likely Windows XP is shutting things down due to some issue
so
| > > that
| > > it
| > > | > can protect the state of the OS, that's what it's designed to
do.
| > > | > Some common sense things to try before you seek help from
Windows
XP
| > > experts
| > > | > would be ....
| > > | > 1) uninstall Norton (crap imo and others) and see if that helps.
| > > | > 2) use system restore. restore to a previous time when you thing
the
| > > pc
| > > ran
| > > | > fine.
| > > | >
| > > | > --
| > > | > David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
| > > | > http://www.davidbartosik.com
| > > | >
| > > | >
| > > | > "Nancy" wrote:
| > > | >
| > > | > > A white box pops up and it will say: MS "word" (or whichever
program
| > > I'm in)
| > > | > > encounterd and error and needs to close. Then it gives me the
choice
| > > if I
| > > | > > want to report to MS or not. I have been. I also went to
control
| > > | > > panel>administrative tools> event viewer and I can see many
items in
| > > here but
| > > | > > don't know what to do from here.
| > > | > > I have repaired office, didn't help. Uninstalled office and
| > > installed
| > > | > > office. None seem to help. After I had uninstalled office and
before
| > > I
| > > had
| > > | > > installed it again, I was in EI and got the same error
again...so
| > > that
| > > was
| > > | > > without any office program on my computer.
| > > | > >
| > > | > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
| > > | > >
| > > | > > > Can you tell us exactly what happens? Exactly error
messages,
etc.
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > --
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > JoAnn Paules
| > > | > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > > | > > | > > > > OK let's see if I can get it typed this time without a
shutdown
| > > of
| > > IE.
| > > | > > > > Any
| > > | > > > > MS program I use encounters error after 2-5 mintues and
| > > shutsdown.
| > > All
| > > | > > > > Office products, Front Page, Publisher, IE MS anti
spyware.
| > > Randomly. I
| > > | > > > > am
| > > | > > > > running Windows XP and Office XP with all updates current.
I
| > > just
| > > loaded
| > > | > > > > the
| > > | > > > > new MS Defender also. I have Norton too. This is a new
| > > computer.
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > >
| > > | > > >
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
| >
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

Norton has gotten really awful in the past 4 years...imo.

I'm still making up my mind on av stuff..I have AVG, Avast, McAfee, and
EZTrust running on 4 separate machines. So far I like Avast the best except
the free version doesnt allow of scheduled scans,...trying to get Task
Schedule to make Avast run with more than a standard scan (or buy the real
version). I can every night...paranoid strikes deep. EZTrust is good but too
EZ..too simple - but seems to work fine.


|I used to be a big Norton fan - and then they starting discontinuing AV
| updates for software that wasn't very old and the price for those updates
| skyrocketed from $5 a year to $20.
|
| I use AVG and recommend it to anyone and everyone.
|
| --
|
| JoAnn Paules
| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
|
|
|
| | > Well, maybe you're cross-posting. But the header shows you are posting
to
| > microsoft.public.PUBLISHER.webdesign.
| >
| > No, matter. IF you post to the correct newsgroup you will undoubtedly
get
| > help. There are LOTS of people that will help you for FREE...just
discribe
| > the problem accurately and you'll be fine....or buy a Mac if that's what
| > toots your horn. Hint: ALL computers and programs have
| > problems...including
| > Macs. My best friend's Mac is on it's 3rd hardrive in one year. My
| > brother's
| > 3 year old Mac just fried it's motherboard...go figure!
| >
| > Another hint: Norton/Symantec sucks.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > |i DID write it in the office newsgroup - it says office in the box
above
| > this
| > | reply. typical - even microsofts websites suck. i have no idea as to
why
| > you
| > | unhelpful people got to read it in your newsgroup.
| > |
| > | "DavidF" wrote:
| > |
| > | > }:>)
| > | >
| > message
| > | > | > | > > It's pretty simple...you're in the wrong newsgroup to get much
help
| > with
| > | > > your problem. THIS newsgroup is dedicated to MS Publisher.
| > | > >
| > | > > You obviously cannot follow simple directions, so yes...you should
| > go
| > out
| > | > > and buy a Mac right away...it will solve all your problems.
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > > | > | > > |I have had (am still having) the same problems as above, even
after
| > | > > | re-installing microsoft office - nothing microsoft supplies has
| > fixed
| > | > > this
| > | > > | problem, as a last resort i am burning all me files to dvd and
| > | > > transferring
| > | > > | to a Mac - atleast thier software works.
| > | > > |
| > | > > | "David Bartosik" wrote:
| > | > > |
| > | > > | > This forum on Publisher web design is not really a place to
get
| > the
| > | > > best
| > | > > help
| > | > > | > for such an issue(s).
| > | > > | > You should be using a Windows XP support forum.
| > | > > | > Most likely Windows XP is shutting things down due to some
issue
| > so
| > | > > that
| > | > > it
| > | > > | > can protect the state of the OS, that's what it's designed to
| > do.
| > | > > | > Some common sense things to try before you seek help from
| > Windows
| > XP
| > | > > experts
| > | > > | > would be ....
| > | > > | > 1) uninstall Norton (crap imo and others) and see if that
helps.
| > | > > | > 2) use system restore. restore to a previous time when you
thing
| > the
| > | > > pc
| > | > > ran
| > | > > | > fine.
| > | > > | >
| > | > > | > --
| > | > > | > David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
| > | > > | > http://www.davidbartosik.com
| > | > > | >
| > | > > | >
| > | > > | > "Nancy" wrote:
| > | > > | >
| > | > > | > > A white box pops up and it will say: MS "word" (or whichever
| > program
| > | > > I'm in)
| > | > > | > > encounterd and error and needs to close. Then it gives me
the
| > choice
| > | > > if I
| > | > > | > > want to report to MS or not. I have been. I also went to
| > control
| > | > > | > > panel>administrative tools> event viewer and I can see many
| > items in
| > | > > here but
| > | > > | > > don't know what to do from here.
| > | > > | > > I have repaired office, didn't help. Uninstalled office and
| > | > > installed
| > | > > | > > office. None seem to help. After I had uninstalled office
and
| > before
| > | > > I
| > | > > had
| > | > > | > > installed it again, I was in EI and got the same error
| > again...so
| > | > > that
| > | > > was
| > | > > | > > without any office program on my computer.
| > | > > | > >
| > | > > | > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
| > | > > | > >
| > | > > | > > > Can you tell us exactly what happens? Exactly error
| > messages,
| > etc.
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > > --
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > > JoAnn Paules
| > | > > | > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > > | > | > > | > > > > OK let's see if I can get it typed this time without a
| > shutdown
| > | > > of
| > | > > IE.
| > | > > | > > > > Any
| > | > > | > > > > MS program I use encounters error after 2-5 mintues and
| > | > > shutsdown.
| > | > > All
| > | > > | > > > > Office products, Front Page, Publisher, IE MS anti
| > spyware.
| > | > > Randomly. I
| > | > > | > > > > am
| > | > > | > > > > running Windows XP and Office XP with all updates
current.
| > I
| > | > > just
| > | > > loaded
| > | > > | > > > > the
| > | > > | > > > > new MS Defender also. I have Norton too. This is a new
| > | > > computer.
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
|
|
 
D

DavidF

Rob,

There was a new review and evaluation of most of the AV packages in this
month's PCWorld magazine, which you might find interesting. Like JoAnn, I
use AVG for AV, but zone alarm for my firewall. I too dislike Norton...way
too invasive.

DavidF

Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
Norton has gotten really awful in the past 4 years...imo.

I'm still making up my mind on av stuff..I have AVG, Avast, McAfee, and
EZTrust running on 4 separate machines. So far I like Avast the best
except
the free version doesnt allow of scheduled scans,...trying to get Task
Schedule to make Avast run with more than a standard scan (or buy the real
version). I can every night...paranoid strikes deep. EZTrust is good but
too
EZ..too simple - but seems to work fine.


|I used to be a big Norton fan - and then they starting discontinuing AV
| updates for software that wasn't very old and the price for those
updates
| skyrocketed from $5 a year to $20.
|
| I use AVG and recommend it to anyone and everyone.
|
| --
|
| JoAnn Paules
| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
|
|
|
message
| | > Well, maybe you're cross-posting. But the header shows you are posting
to
| > microsoft.public.PUBLISHER.webdesign.
| >
| > No, matter. IF you post to the correct newsgroup you will undoubtedly
get
| > help. There are LOTS of people that will help you for FREE...just
discribe
| > the problem accurately and you'll be fine....or buy a Mac if that's
what
| > toots your horn. Hint: ALL computers and programs have
| > problems...including
| > Macs. My best friend's Mac is on it's 3rd hardrive in one year. My
| > brother's
| > 3 year old Mac just fried it's motherboard...go figure!
| >
| > Another hint: Norton/Symantec sucks.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > |i DID write it in the office newsgroup - it says office in the box
above
| > this
| > | reply. typical - even microsofts websites suck. i have no idea as to
why
| > you
| > | unhelpful people got to read it in your newsgroup.
| > |
| > | "DavidF" wrote:
| > |
| > | > }:>)
| > | >
| > message
| > | > | > | > > It's pretty simple...you're in the wrong newsgroup to get much
help
| > with
| > | > > your problem. THIS newsgroup is dedicated to MS Publisher.
| > | > >
| > | > > You obviously cannot follow simple directions, so yes...you
should
| > go
| > out
| > | > > and buy a Mac right away...it will solve all your problems.
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > > | > | > > |I have had (am still having) the same problems as above, even
after
| > | > > | re-installing microsoft office - nothing microsoft supplies
has
| > fixed
| > | > > this
| > | > > | problem, as a last resort i am burning all me files to dvd and
| > | > > transferring
| > | > > | to a Mac - atleast thier software works.
| > | > > |
| > | > > | "David Bartosik" wrote:
| > | > > |
| > | > > | > This forum on Publisher web design is not really a place to
get
| > the
| > | > > best
| > | > > help
| > | > > | > for such an issue(s).
| > | > > | > You should be using a Windows XP support forum.
| > | > > | > Most likely Windows XP is shutting things down due to some
issue
| > so
| > | > > that
| > | > > it
| > | > > | > can protect the state of the OS, that's what it's designed
to
| > do.
| > | > > | > Some common sense things to try before you seek help from
| > Windows
| > XP
| > | > > experts
| > | > > | > would be ....
| > | > > | > 1) uninstall Norton (crap imo and others) and see if that
helps.
| > | > > | > 2) use system restore. restore to a previous time when you
thing
| > the
| > | > > pc
| > | > > ran
| > | > > | > fine.
| > | > > | >
| > | > > | > --
| > | > > | > David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
| > | > > | > http://www.davidbartosik.com
| > | > > | >
| > | > > | >
| > | > > | > "Nancy" wrote:
| > | > > | >
| > | > > | > > A white box pops up and it will say: MS "word" (or
whichever
| > program
| > | > > I'm in)
| > | > > | > > encounterd and error and needs to close. Then it gives me
the
| > choice
| > | > > if I
| > | > > | > > want to report to MS or not. I have been. I also went to
| > control
| > | > > | > > panel>administrative tools> event viewer and I can see
many
| > items in
| > | > > here but
| > | > > | > > don't know what to do from here.
| > | > > | > > I have repaired office, didn't help. Uninstalled office
and
| > | > > installed
| > | > > | > > office. None seem to help. After I had uninstalled office
and
| > before
| > | > > I
| > | > > had
| > | > > | > > installed it again, I was in EI and got the same error
| > again...so
| > | > > that
| > | > > was
| > | > > | > > without any office program on my computer.
| > | > > | > >
| > | > > | > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
| > | > > | > >
| > | > > | > > > Can you tell us exactly what happens? Exactly error
| > messages,
| > etc.
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > > --
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > > JoAnn Paules
| > | > > | > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > >
message
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > > > OK let's see if I can get it typed this time without a
| > shutdown
| > | > > of
| > | > > IE.
| > | > > | > > > > Any
| > | > > | > > > > MS program I use encounters error after 2-5 mintues
and
| > | > > shutsdown.
| > | > > All
| > | > > | > > > > Office products, Front Page, Publisher, IE MS anti
| > spyware.
| > | > > Randomly. I
| > | > > | > > > > am
| > | > > | > > > > running Windows XP and Office XP with all updates
current.
| > I
| > | > > just
| > | > > loaded
| > | > > | > > > > the
| > | > > | > > > > new MS Defender also. I have Norton too. This is a
new
| > | > > computer.
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > > | > > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
|
|
 
D

DavidF

Hey, chill. You got the reaction you did because you posted back into the
same newsgroup that told you to post in the XP newsgroup. As your problems
also deal with IE, not just Office, that is why you were sent there.

But before you go, change your attitude if you want help. There are a lot of
really helpful people in these newsgroups, but rather than ranting, just lay
out all the facts associated with your issues, and store the attitude...you
will get more help. And give them specifics if you post. What software are
you running, which versions, what are the error messages, what specifically
happens and when. What have you tried already, and what were the results.
Don't make people try to read your mind. Do that, in the proper newsgroup,
with a little respect, and you are likely to find your answers.

DavidF

EOJ said:
i DID write it in the office newsgroup - it says office in the box above
this
reply. typical - even microsofts websites suck. i have no idea as to why
you
unhelpful people got to read it in your newsgroup.

DavidF said:
}:>)

Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
It's pretty simple...you're in the wrong newsgroup to get much help
with
your problem. THIS newsgroup is dedicated to MS Publisher.

You obviously cannot follow simple directions, so yes...you should go
out
and buy a Mac right away...it will solve all your problems.



|I have had (am still having) the same problems as above, even after
| re-installing microsoft office - nothing microsoft supplies has fixed
this
| problem, as a last resort i am burning all me files to dvd and
transferring
| to a Mac - atleast thier software works.
|
| "David Bartosik" wrote:
|
| > This forum on Publisher web design is not really a place to get the
best
help
| > for such an issue(s).
| > You should be using a Windows XP support forum.
| > Most likely Windows XP is shutting things down due to some issue so
that
it
| > can protect the state of the OS, that's what it's designed to do.
| > Some common sense things to try before you seek help from Windows
XP
experts
| > would be ....
| > 1) uninstall Norton (crap imo and others) and see if that helps.
| > 2) use system restore. restore to a previous time when you thing
the
pc
ran
| > fine.
| >
| > --
| > David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
| > http://www.davidbartosik.com
| >
| >
| > "Nancy" wrote:
| >
| > > A white box pops up and it will say: MS "word" (or whichever
program
I'm in)
| > > encounterd and error and needs to close. Then it gives me the
choice
if I
| > > want to report to MS or not. I have been. I also went to control
| > > panel>administrative tools> event viewer and I can see many items
in
here but
| > > don't know what to do from here.
| > > I have repaired office, didn't help. Uninstalled office and
installed
| > > office. None seem to help. After I had uninstalled office and
before
I
had
| > > installed it again, I was in EI and got the same error again...so
that
was
| > > without any office program on my computer.
| > >
| > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
| > >
| > > > Can you tell us exactly what happens? Exactly error messages,
etc.
| > > >
| > > > --
| > > >
| > > > JoAnn Paules
| > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > | > > > > OK let's see if I can get it typed this time without a
shutdown
of
IE.
| > > > > Any
| > > > > MS program I use encounters error after 2-5 mintues and
shutsdown.
All
| > > > > Office products, Front Page, Publisher, IE MS anti spyware.
Randomly. I
| > > > > am
| > > > > running Windows XP and Office XP with all updates current. I
just
loaded
| > > > > the
| > > > > new MS Defender also. I have Norton too. This is a new
computer.
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

Thanks I'll try to snag that article.
I used to use Zone Alarm on the wife's machine and Sygate on mine...they
were fine. But when I built the new XP machines I decided to just go with
the XP built in and have had no problems yet. Also use CrapCleaner and
AdAware and have been very happy with the entire set up except I haven't
decide on which AV to stay with. The free one year on this machine EZtrust
runs out in august so I still have some time to decide.


| Rob,
|
| There was a new review and evaluation of most of the AV packages in this
| month's PCWorld magazine, which you might find interesting. Like JoAnn, I
| use AVG for AV, but zone alarm for my firewall. I too dislike Norton...way
| too invasive.
|
| DavidF
|
| | > Norton has gotten really awful in the past 4 years...imo.
| >
| > I'm still making up my mind on av stuff..I have AVG, Avast, McAfee, and
| > EZTrust running on 4 separate machines. So far I like Avast the best
| > except
| > the free version doesnt allow of scheduled scans,...trying to get Task
| > Schedule to make Avast run with more than a standard scan (or buy the
real
| > version). I can every night...paranoid strikes deep. EZTrust is good but
| > too
| > EZ..too simple - but seems to work fine.
| >
| >
| > | > |I used to be a big Norton fan - and then they starting discontinuing AV
| > | updates for software that wasn't very old and the price for those
| > updates
| > | skyrocketed from $5 a year to $20.
| > |
| > | I use AVG and recommend it to anyone and everyone.
| > |
| > | --
| > |
| > | JoAnn Paules
| > | MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > message
| > | | > | > Well, maybe you're cross-posting. But the header shows you are
posting
| > to
| > | > microsoft.public.PUBLISHER.webdesign.
| > | >
| > | > No, matter. IF you post to the correct newsgroup you will
undoubtedly
| > get
| > | > help. There are LOTS of people that will help you for FREE...just
| > discribe
| > | > the problem accurately and you'll be fine....or buy a Mac if that's
| > what
| > | > toots your horn. Hint: ALL computers and programs have
| > | > problems...including
| > | > Macs. My best friend's Mac is on it's 3rd hardrive in one year. My
| > | > brother's
| > | > 3 year old Mac just fried it's motherboard...go figure!
| > | >
| > | > Another hint: Norton/Symantec sucks.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > |i DID write it in the office newsgroup - it says office in the box
| > above
| > | > this
| > | > | reply. typical - even microsofts websites suck. i have no idea as
to
| > why
| > | > you
| > | > | unhelpful people got to read it in your newsgroup.
| > | > |
| > | > | "DavidF" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > }:>)
| > | > | >
in
| > | > message
| > | > | > | > | > | > > It's pretty simple...you're in the wrong newsgroup to get much
| > help
| > | > with
| > | > | > > your problem. THIS newsgroup is dedicated to MS Publisher.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > You obviously cannot follow simple directions, so yes...you
| > should
| > | > go
| > | > out
| > | > | > > and buy a Mac right away...it will solve all your problems.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > | > | > | > > |I have had (am still having) the same problems as above, even
| > after
| > | > | > > | re-installing microsoft office - nothing microsoft supplies
| > has
| > | > fixed
| > | > | > > this
| > | > | > > | problem, as a last resort i am burning all me files to dvd
and
| > | > | > > transferring
| > | > | > > | to a Mac - atleast thier software works.
| > | > | > > |
| > | > | > > | "David Bartosik" wrote:
| > | > | > > |
| > | > | > > | > This forum on Publisher web design is not really a place
to
| > get
| > | > the
| > | > | > > best
| > | > | > > help
| > | > | > > | > for such an issue(s).
| > | > | > > | > You should be using a Windows XP support forum.
| > | > | > > | > Most likely Windows XP is shutting things down due to some
| > issue
| > | > so
| > | > | > > that
| > | > | > > it
| > | > | > > | > can protect the state of the OS, that's what it's designed
| > to
| > | > do.
| > | > | > > | > Some common sense things to try before you seek help from
| > | > Windows
| > | > XP
| > | > | > > experts
| > | > | > > | > would be ....
| > | > | > > | > 1) uninstall Norton (crap imo and others) and see if that
| > helps.
| > | > | > > | > 2) use system restore. restore to a previous time when you
| > thing
| > | > the
| > | > | > > pc
| > | > | > > ran
| > | > | > > | > fine.
| > | > | > > | >
| > | > | > > | > --
| > | > | > > | > David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
| > | > | > > | > http://www.davidbartosik.com
| > | > | > > | >
| > | > | > > | >
| > | > | > > | > "Nancy" wrote:
| > | > | > > | >
| > | > | > > | > > A white box pops up and it will say: MS "word" (or
| > whichever
| > | > program
| > | > | > > I'm in)
| > | > | > > | > > encounterd and error and needs to close. Then it gives
me
| > the
| > | > choice
| > | > | > > if I
| > | > | > > | > > want to report to MS or not. I have been. I also went
to
| > | > control
| > | > | > > | > > panel>administrative tools> event viewer and I can see
| > many
| > | > items in
| > | > | > > here but
| > | > | > > | > > don't know what to do from here.
| > | > | > > | > > I have repaired office, didn't help. Uninstalled office
| > and
| > | > | > > installed
| > | > | > > | > > office. None seem to help. After I had uninstalled
office
| > and
| > | > before
| > | > | > > I
| > | > | > > had
| > | > | > > | > > installed it again, I was in EI and got the same error
| > | > again...so
| > | > | > > that
| > | > | > > was
| > | > | > > | > > without any office program on my computer.
| > | > | > > | > >
| > | > | > > | > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
| > | > | > > | > >
| > | > | > > | > > > Can you tell us exactly what happens? Exactly error
| > | > messages,
| > | > etc.
| > | > | > > | > > >
| > | > | > > | > > > --
| > | > | > > | > > >
| > | > | > > | > > > JoAnn Paules
| > | > | > > | > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| > | > | > > | > > >
| > | > | > > | > > >
| > | > | > > | > > >
| > message
| > | > | > > | > > >
| > | > | > | > > | > > > > OK let's see if I can get it typed this time without
a
| > | > shutdown
| > | > | > > of
| > | > | > > IE.
| > | > | > > | > > > > Any
| > | > | > > | > > > > MS program I use encounters error after 2-5 mintues
| > and
| > | > | > > shutsdown.
| > | > | > > All
| > | > | > > | > > > > Office products, Front Page, Publisher, IE MS anti
| > | > spyware.
| > | > | > > Randomly. I
| > | > | > > | > > > > am
| > | > | > > | > > > > running Windows XP and Office XP with all updates
| > current.
| > | > I
| > | > | > > just
| > | > | > > loaded
| > | > | > > | > > > > the
| > | > | > > | > > > > new MS Defender also. I have Norton too. This is a
| > new
| > | > | > > computer.
| > | > | > > | > > >
| > | > | > > | > > >
| > | > | > > | > > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
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