Answer Yes or No?

G

Gregg

I'm moving some old files into my _private folder (for the first time) so
their not picked up by search engines. After I've moved the files into the
_private folder and try to publish, I get the message that says: "Do you want
to remove this file? The file exists on the destination server but does not
exist on the current web site. Do you want FP to remove it from
www.mysite.com?" Should I say yes or no? I don't want to permanently delete
anything and I don't quite know what it's asking.
 
S

Steve

If in doubt - say no.

If you have moved files from one folder to another on your computer - it may
be just asking you if you no longer want these files in the 'old' location on
the server, so it can delete them to match your computer.

But if in doubt - play it safe - say no!
 
T

Trevor L.

Steve said:
If in doubt - say no.

If you have moved files from one folder to another on your computer -
it may be just asking you if you no longer want these files in the
'old' location on the server, so it can delete them to match your
computer.

But if in doubt - play it safe - say no!

Yep, when you move files, this will always occur.

As Steve says, it is just making sure that your two webs are aligned.

Your files will be copied from the new location on your disk to the same
location on the web.

From another Aussie
 
G

Gregg

I say "No to all" but if I republish later, it makes me say "No to all" all
over again.
 
T

Trevor L.

Gregg said:
I say "No to all" but if I republish later, it makes me say "No to
all" all over again.

Let's see

Say, you have moved files 'file1' 'file2' 'file3'
from "folderx" to "_private" on your hard disk.

When you publish, you will have
Local Disk Web
folderx - file1
- file2
- file3

_private file1
file2
file3

You will be prompted "Do you want to remove 'file1' 'file2' 'file3' from the
folderx on the web site" (or similar words)
It is safe to say "Yes" because the files are you local disk in "_private".
FP will then publish the same files to "_private" on the web
In this case, the situation after publication will be
Local Disk Web
folderx - -

_private file1 file1
file2 file2
file3 file3

If you say "No", then the prompt will come back next time, because they will
still be on folderx on your web site.
In this case, the situation after publication will be
Local Disk Web
folderx - file1
file2
file3

_private file1 file1
file2 file2
file3 file3

I hope that is clearer than mud :))
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

You moved the files into a private folder. That means the files no longer
exist in the original location in your local web, but they do exist in the
original location on your remote server. It's asking if you want to remove
those. You want to say *yes*, because you don't want the search engines to
see them and they are now in the private folder.
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

First, moving the files to the FP _private folder will not protect them from search engines, such as
Google, MSN, Yahoo, etc. only from the FP search component.

You have to answer YES.

If you don't need the file in your site, then you should delete them from the site. Export them to a
folder on your HD.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

Since the FP _private folder is permissions protected, and cannot be entered
via a browser, how can the search engines get to the material?
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Example:
http://www.ecom-data.com/_private/test.htm

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
Since the FP _private folder is permissions protected, and cannot be entered via a browser, how
can the search engines get to the material?
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
Thomas A. Rowe said:
First, moving the files to the FP _private folder will not protect them from search engines, such
as Google, MSN, Yahoo, etc. only from the FP search component.

You have to answer YES.

If you don't need the file in your site, then you should delete them from the site. Export them
to a folder on your HD.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

Guess permissions are not set properly. Mine give forbidden access 403.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
Thomas A. Rowe said:
Example:
http://www.ecom-data.com/_private/test.htm

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
Since the FP _private folder is permissions protected, and cannot be
entered via a browser, how can the search engines get to the material?
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
Thomas A. Rowe said:
First, moving the files to the FP _private folder will not protect them
from search engines, such as Google, MSN, Yahoo, etc. only from the FP
search component.

You have to answer YES.

If you don't need the file in your site, then you should delete them
from the site. Export them to a folder on your HD.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

I'm moving some old files into my _private folder (for the first time)
so
their not picked up by search engines. After I've moved the files into
the
_private folder and try to publish, I get the message that says: "Do
you want
to remove this file? The file exists on the destination server but does
not
exist on the current web site. Do you want FP to remove it from
www.mysite.com?" Should I say yes or no? I don't want to permanently
delete
anything and I don't quite know what it's asking.
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

I see!

I haven't tested this over the years, because back with the FP98 extensions and maybe with the first
version of the FP2000 extensions, as long as you have the URL to a file in the _private folder you
could still access the file, the permissions at the time were set to allow forms and the hit counter
to be able to write to files in the _private folder but did not stop them from being viewed.

But now that the _private folder is protected that means you can't have links to any pages or
include page within it, since a site visitor would be prompted for a login, correct?

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
Guess permissions are not set properly. Mine give forbidden access 403.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
Thomas A. Rowe said:
Example:
http://www.ecom-data.com/_private/test.htm

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
Since the FP _private folder is permissions protected, and cannot be entered via a browser, how
can the search engines get to the material?
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
First, moving the files to the FP _private folder will not protect them from search engines,
such as Google, MSN, Yahoo, etc. only from the FP search component.

You have to answer YES.

If you don't need the file in your site, then you should delete them from the site. Export them
to a folder on your HD.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

I'm moving some old files into my _private folder (for the first time) so
their not picked up by search engines. After I've moved the files into the
_private folder and try to publish, I get the message that says: "Do you want
to remove this file? The file exists on the destination server but does not
exist on the current web site. Do you want FP to remove it from
www.mysite.com?" Should I say yes or no? I don't want to permanently delete
anything and I don't quite know what it's asking.
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

Tom: I have used the _private folders for all my include pages beginning
with the 98 extensions and now the 2000 extensions and have no problems
whatsoever.

Of course, linking to pages within the _private folders gives a forbidden
access.
--
===
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===

|I see!
|
| I haven't tested this over the years, because back with the FP98
extensions and maybe with the first
| version of the FP2000 extensions, as long as you have the URL to a file in
the _private folder you
| could still access the file, the permissions at the time were set to allow
forms and the hit counter
| to be able to write to files in the _private folder but did not stop them
from being viewed.
|
| But now that the _private folder is protected that means you can't have
links to any pages or
| include page within it, since a site visitor would be prompted for a
login, correct?
|
| --
| ==============================================
| Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| ==============================================
| If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| Microsoft Product Support Services:
| http://support.microsoft.com
| If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| ==============================================
|
| | > Guess permissions are not set properly. Mine give forbidden access 403.
| > --
| > Tom [Pepper] Willett
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| > ----------
| >> Example:
| >> http://www.ecom-data.com/_private/test.htm
| >>
| >> --
| >> ==============================================
| >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >> ==============================================
| >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| >> http://support.microsoft.com
| >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| >> ==============================================
| >>
| >> | >>> Since the FP _private folder is permissions protected, and cannot be
entered via a browser, how
| >>> can the search engines get to the material?
| >>> --
| >>> Tom [Pepper] Willett
| >>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >>> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >>> ----------
| >>> | >>>> First, moving the files to the FP _private folder will not protect
them from search engines,
| >>>> such as Google, MSN, Yahoo, etc. only from the FP search component.
| >>>>
| >>>> You have to answer YES.
| >>>>
| >>>> If you don't need the file in your site, then you should delete them
from the site. Export them
| >>>> to a folder on your HD.
| >>>>
| >>>> --
| >>>> ==============================================
| >>>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >>>> ==============================================
| >>>> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| >>>> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| >>>> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| >>>> http://support.microsoft.com
| >>>> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| >>>> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| >>>> ==============================================
| >>>>
| >>>> | >>>>> I'm moving some old files into my _private folder (for the first
time) so
| >>>>> their not picked up by search engines. After I've moved the files
into the
| >>>>> _private folder and try to publish, I get the message that says: "Do
you want
| >>>>> to remove this file? The file exists on the destination server but
does not
| >>>>> exist on the current web site. Do you want FP to remove it from
| >>>>> www.mysite.com?" Should I say yes or no? I don't want to permanently
delete
| >>>>> anything and I don't quite know what it's asking.
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
 

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