anyone else having font issues since moving to Tiger?

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roberto

Hi folks,

Since I did a "archive and install" of Tiger on my Powerbook, a week or
two ago, I've had a weird problem with my fonts that seems to be solved
only by using one of the popular "cache cleaner" utilities and
restarting: it seems like Word "forgets" that when I change text (say
Lucida Std) to italic, say, to automatically select that font (Lucida
Std Italic) without me actually having to change fonts.

Does that make sense? I primarily use OpenType fonts, so I have four
files for Lucida: Lucida Std; Lucida Std Bold; Lucida Italic; and
Lucida Bold Italic. Typically, Word is smart enough to use the
appropriate font when I apply formatting from the keyboard, but, since
the upgrade, sometimes it does not, and it applies it's own,
mathematically generated, bold and italics. Which are ugly, ugly, ugly.
:)

I first tried using "Deep Six" to delete the Microsoft font cache
files, but that didn't help, nor did re-starting. Deleting the system
font caches, however, DOES do the trick. For a while.

Is this one of the issues being addressed in the forthcoming Office
updates for Tiger? While it sounds like a Tiger problem, it seems like
it only happens in Word... I'm almost certain TextEdit, for example,
still did the right thing... but I could be wrong...

Thanks!
 
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DrChrisHeard

I've been having exactly the same problem. Since upgrading to Tiger, I
get "slanted" fonts instead of the actual faces for most of my Adobe
fonts ... but only in Office products (Word and PowerPoint). TextEdit
handles the font families correctly. I have found no workaround ...
 
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DrChrisHeard

I've been having exactly the same problem. Since upgrading to Tiger, I
get "slanted" fonts instead of the actual faces for most of my Adobe
fonts ... but only in Office products (Word and PowerPoint). TextEdit
handles the font families correctly. I have written VBA macros to
quickly fix the problems after the fact, but that is not really a
satisfactory workaround ...
 
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roberto

Well, as I said, cleaning Tiger's cache files out and restarting fixed
it for me each time, however... and knock on wood, since I've been
using 10.4.1 (yes, all of 24 hours), I've not had the problem. Looking
at what got installed, I'm not sure I see anything that would affect
this, but at least it's working for me now! Good luck!
 
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Emanuel Vahid Towfigh

Hi there

I am facing the same problem, even under Tiger 10.4.1 -- but I did not
delete Tiger's (font?) cache files as I don't have a clue where they sit and
how to delete them. Any hints would be appreciated! Thanks in advance,

emanuel.
 
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Emanuel Vahid Towfigh

Sorry, I realized I was not being very specific. The problem that turns up
is that when selecting Bold or Italic, Word does no longer use the Unicode
font, say Palatino Linotype Bold, but instead uses the Regular form and
calculates the Bold/Italic face itself -- which looks really ugly. Hope I
described the porblem clear enough for someone knowledgeable to
understand...

Thanks, again,

e.
 
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Beth Rosengard

Hi Emanuel,

Try deleting Word's FontCache file (after quitting Word). It's here:
Home/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/Office Font Cache (11). When you
relaunch Word, the cache will be rebuilt. Let us know if this works.

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Emanuel Vahid Towfigh

Hi Beth --

it did not work :-(. Somewhere on the net I read that deleting the MS Font
Cache was not enough but that one would need to delete the OS X font cache.
Can you clue me where do find it?

Thanks,

e.
 
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Beth Rosengard

No, sorry. I did a Finder search and found a couple of Apple files with
fontcache in their names, but I have no idea if they're the right files to
trash. Try one of the Apple forums, maybe at MacFixit or Macintouch?

And if you find that it works, we would really appreciate it if you would
post back here on this same thread for the benefit of other users.

Thanks and good luck!

Beth
 
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Tim Murray

it did not work :-(. Somewhere on the net I read that deleting the MS Font
Cache was not enough but that one would need to delete the OS X font cache.
Can you clue me where do find it?

I don't know exactly which cache file is responsible for what, but I will
tell you that I have never had a problem deleting any cache file anywhere ...
in other words, I have never caused a problem by deleting a cache file.
 
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roberto

Hi Emanuel, I'm the one who said that deleting the MS Font Cache didn't
affect the problem, but using a program like "Tiger Cache Cleaner"
(check VersionTracker to get latest version) allows you to clean all
cache files with either a "light," "medium," or "deep" level. All
require a restart. About the time I updated to 10.4.1 I think I did the
"deep" cleaning, so I'm not sure which was responsible for the problem
going away, but I'm glad it did!

Deleting cache files won't hurt anything, but it's always best to
restart immediately, which is why I like using an application that
knows which ones to delete, where they are, and allow me to restart
right there.

Good luck!

--Roberto
 
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Emanuel Vahid Towfigh

Dear Roberto,

that did it, thanks for the great hint!!

I d/led TCC and deep cleaned the Caches (without trying the two other
methods), then restarted. Now Word uses the nice Bold/Italic formatting
again. I lost my login pictures but that really is no big deal -- as long as
that was it...

Have a nice day!

e.
 
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Emanuel Vahid Towfigh

Seems it the happiness was a bit premature. Unlike Roberto, with my
installation of Word it does help deleting the Caches -- but only until next
restart. :-( And it's not exactly fun continually deleting the Caches!

Any ideas anyone?
Cheers,
e.
 

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