Anyone use OneNote 2007 with SharePoint ?

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I was wondering if Anyone is using OneNote 2007 with SharePoint 2007 ?

I would like to know if OneNote "Text" and "Ink" is well indexed and
searchable within SharePoint.
I suspect it is "supposed to be" but is it ? Is it reliable ?
 
P

Patrick Schmid [MVP]

SharePoint is just the storage medium. OneNote will cache a notebook
that is stored on a SharePoint Server in the same way that it caches a
notebook stored on a network drive. As all operations within OneNote
always work off the cache only, there is no difference as to what you
can do inside OneNote with a notebook on a SharePoint Site (of course
there are some special SharePoint only features). It's as reliable as
searching would be on any other notebook.
The real difference is in syncing the notebook, where it syncs less
frequently than with other mediums (you can adjust the time delay
though). I played with OneNote and SharePoint in B2TR, and there were
issues with SharePoint syncing then (mainly its reliability). I haven't
had the chance to try it in the RTM version, so I can't say how reliable
it is now. From what I understand, SharePoint Server changed drastically
between B2TR and RTM.


Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
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K

Kathy Jacobs

Patrick,
We (you and I) do need to test this on SharePoint RTM, but the changes that
were made won't affect what we were testing.

As for the original question, I wouldn't count on SharePoint being able to
index your notes. I (so far) haven't been able to do it. Granted, I haven't
played in a while, but.... I still wouldn't count on it.

I will also warn you that you may see some refresh problems with notes
stored on MOSS/SharePoint and then shared live. It can be.... umm... ugly ..
yeah - that's close to what I want :)

Kathy
Microsoft MVP, OneNote and PPT
(who really needs to get her sig going on this machine again - I keep
forgetting)

Patrick Schmid said:
SharePoint is just the storage medium. OneNote will cache a notebook that
is stored on a SharePoint Server in the same way that it caches a notebook
stored on a network drive. As all operations within OneNote always work
off the cache only, there is no difference as to what you can do inside
OneNote with a notebook on a SharePoint Site (of course there are some
special SharePoint only features). It's as reliable as searching would be
on any other notebook.
The real difference is in syncing the notebook, where it syncs less
frequently than with other mediums (you can adjust the time delay though).
I played with OneNote and SharePoint in B2TR, and there were issues with
SharePoint syncing then (mainly its reliability). I haven't had the chance
to try it in the RTM version, so I can't say how reliable it is now. From
what I understand, SharePoint Server changed drastically between B2TR and
RTM.


Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed


I was wondering if Anyone is using OneNote 2007 with SharePoint 2007 ?

I would like to know if OneNote "Text" and "Ink" is well indexed and
searchable within SharePoint.
I suspect it is "supposed to be" but is it ? Is it reliable ?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
P

Patrick Schmid [MVP]

We (you and I) do need to test this on SharePoint RTM, but the changes
that
were made won't affect what we were testing.
Click to expand...
Yes, we need to.
As for the original question, I wouldn't count on SharePoint being able to
index your notes. I (so far) haven't been able to do it. Granted, I haven't
played in a while, but.... I still wouldn't count on it.
Click to expand...
I am talking offline with Kathy about this. To clarify what we both
meant:
Indexing and searching of notes stored on a SharePoint Site from within
OneNote works fine (what I said).
Indexing and searching of notes stored on a SharePoint Site from within
SharePoint doesn't really work (Kathy's point).

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
I will also warn you that you may see some refresh problems with notes
stored on MOSS/SharePoint and then shared live. It can be.... umm... ugly ..
yeah - that's close to what I want :)

Kathy
Microsoft MVP, OneNote and PPT
(who really needs to get her sig going on this machine again - I keep
forgetting)

Patrick Schmid said:
SharePoint is just the storage medium. OneNote will cache a notebook that
is stored on a SharePoint Server in the same way that it caches a notebook
stored on a network drive. As all operations within OneNote always work
off the cache only, there is no difference as to what you can do inside
OneNote with a notebook on a SharePoint Site (of course there are some
special SharePoint only features). It's as reliable as searching would be
on any other notebook.
The real difference is in syncing the notebook, where it syncs less
frequently than with other mediums (you can adjust the time delay though).
I played with OneNote and SharePoint in B2TR, and there were issues with
SharePoint syncing then (mainly its reliability). I haven't had the chance
to try it in the RTM version, so I can't say how reliable it is now. From
what I understand, SharePoint Server changed drastically between B2TR and
RTM.


Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed


I was wondering if Anyone is using OneNote 2007 with SharePoint 2007 ?

I would like to know if OneNote "Text" and "Ink" is well indexed and
searchable within SharePoint.
I suspect it is "supposed to be" but is it ? Is it reliable ?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
E

Erik Sojka (MVP)

There is an ifilter for OneNote files, and after ON has parsed the Ink
content on a Tablet PC, it seems to store the text inside the Section
file, so it seems as if you should be able to search already-converted-
Ink for text. Olya's blog has some information...

http://blogs.msdn.com/olya_veselova/



We (you and I) do need to test this on SharePoint RTM, but the
changes that
were made won't affect what we were testing.
Click to expand...
Yes, we need to.
As for the original question, I wouldn't count on SharePoint being
able to index your notes. I (so far) haven't been able to do it.
Granted, I haven't played in a while, but.... I still wouldn't count
on it.
Click to expand...
I am talking offline with Kathy about this. To clarify what we both
meant:
Indexing and searching of notes stored on a SharePoint Site from
within OneNote works fine (what I said).
Indexing and searching of notes stored on a SharePoint Site from
within SharePoint doesn't really work (Kathy's point).

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007:
http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote ***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
I will also warn you that you may see some refresh problems with
notes stored on MOSS/SharePoint and then shared live. It can be....
umm... ugly .. yeah - that's close to what I want :)

Kathy
Microsoft MVP, OneNote and PPT
(who really needs to get her sig going on this machine again - I keep
forgetting)

Patrick Schmid said:
SharePoint is just the storage medium. OneNote will cache a
notebook that is stored on a SharePoint Server in the same way that
it caches a notebook stored on a network drive. As all operations
within OneNote always work off the cache only, there is no
difference as to what you can do inside OneNote with a notebook on
a SharePoint Site (of course there are some special SharePoint only
features). It's as reliable as searching would be on any other
notebook. The real difference is in syncing the notebook, where it
syncs less frequently than with other mediums (you can adjust the
time delay though). I played with OneNote and SharePoint in B2TR,
and there were issues with SharePoint syncing then (mainly its
reliability). I haven't had the chance to try it in the RTM
version, so I can't say how reliable it is now. From what I
understand, SharePoint Server changed drastically between B2TR and
RTM.


Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007:
http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote ***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed



I was wondering if Anyone is using OneNote 2007 with SharePoint
2007 ?

I would like to know if OneNote "Text" and "Ink" is well indexed
and searchable within SharePoint.
I suspect it is "supposed to be" but is it ? Is it reliable ?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
I

Ilya Koulchin

Erik is correct - it is possible to get notes stored on SharePoint to be
indexed and searched by SharePoint - but this requires some special
configuration of the server. More details on Olya's blog:
http://blogs.msdn.com/olya_veselova/archive/2006/09/25/770917.aspx

Ink will be searchable after a client with the Tablet PC version of
Windows views the page, triggering handwriting recognition, and uploads
the section with the recognized results back to SharePoint.

Ilya

There is an ifilter for OneNote files, and after ON has parsed the Ink
content on a Tablet PC, it seems to store the text inside the Section
file, so it seems as if you should be able to search already-converted-
Ink for text. Olya's blog has some information...

http://blogs.msdn.com/olya_veselova/



We (you and I) do need to test this on SharePoint RTM, but the
changes that
were made won't affect what we were testing.
Click to expand...
Yes, we need to.
As for the original question, I wouldn't count on SharePoint being
able to index your notes. I (so far) haven't been able to do it.
Granted, I haven't played in a while, but.... I still wouldn't count
on it.
Click to expand...
I am talking offline with Kathy about this. To clarify what we both
meant:
Indexing and searching of notes stored on a SharePoint Site from
within OneNote works fine (what I said).
Indexing and searching of notes stored on a SharePoint Site from
within SharePoint doesn't really work (Kathy's point).

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007:
http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote ***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
I will also warn you that you may see some refresh problems with
notes stored on MOSS/SharePoint and then shared live. It can be....
umm... ugly .. yeah - that's close to what I want :)

Kathy
Microsoft MVP, OneNote and PPT
(who really needs to get her sig going on this machine again - I keep
forgetting)

SharePoint is just the storage medium. OneNote will cache a
notebook that is stored on a SharePoint Server in the same way that
it caches a notebook stored on a network drive. As all operations
within OneNote always work off the cache only, there is no
difference as to what you can do inside OneNote with a notebook on
a SharePoint Site (of course there are some special SharePoint only
features). It's as reliable as searching would be on any other
notebook. The real difference is in syncing the notebook, where it
syncs less frequently than with other mediums (you can adjust the
time delay though). I played with OneNote and SharePoint in B2TR,
and there were issues with SharePoint syncing then (mainly its
reliability). I haven't had the chance to try it in the RTM
version, so I can't say how reliable it is now. From what I
understand, SharePoint Server changed drastically between B2TR and
RTM.


Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007:
http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote ***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed



I was wondering if Anyone is using OneNote 2007 with SharePoint
2007 ?

I would like to know if OneNote "Text" and "Ink" is well indexed
and searchable within SharePoint.
I suspect it is "supposed to be" but is it ? Is it reliable ?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 

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