J
james
How do you open a MS Access database with an AOIndex error?
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Van T. Dinh
There are corruptions in your database.
See Tony Toews' Web site:
http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/corruptmdbs.htm
See Tony Toews' Web site:
http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/corruptmdbs.htm
J
jasenpeters
No ads, please. It's not appreciated here!
WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(This is NOT a link to a 'AOINDEX' fix.)
No one has yet had the courage to demonstrate how to recover from the
'AOIndex' issues, here.
It, like the other 'plugs', start out with the same, important yet,
basic steps to preventing database corruption, but NO ONE, NOT ONE, has
addressed the inner workings of Access to bring an understanding of
exactly what 'AOIndex' is and the proper steps to repairing it.
Those who do know, take advantage of this situation, by seducing NG
readers with headlines that suggest there is a solution and ultimately
deliver a 'price' toward recovery.
This is a community, you GIVE back to your community, you dont exploit
it.
PLEASE STOP THIS UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR, NOW AND FOREVER!
WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(This is NOT a link to a 'AOINDEX' fix.)
No one has yet had the courage to demonstrate how to recover from the
'AOIndex' issues, here.
It, like the other 'plugs', start out with the same, important yet,
basic steps to preventing database corruption, but NO ONE, NOT ONE, has
addressed the inner workings of Access to bring an understanding of
exactly what 'AOIndex' is and the proper steps to repairing it.
Those who do know, take advantage of this situation, by seducing NG
readers with headlines that suggest there is a solution and ultimately
deliver a 'price' toward recovery.
This is a community, you GIVE back to your community, you dont exploit
it.
PLEASE STOP THIS UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR, NOW AND FOREVER!
V
Van T. Dinh
???
I certainly didn't advertise any product / service for sale since I got more
work than I can handle right now. I have not advertised my service (for a
fee) ANYTIME since I started replying to questions above 5 years ago.
The link I posted go directly to a comprehensive article on database
corruptions by Tony Toews. This article lists many corruption symptoms &
possible solutions which might / might not include "AOIndex". Tony may have
some "sponsor links" but no pop-up ads AFAIK and the article does not offer
Tony's "help to recover the database for you" (at a price), either.
And no, I don't get any commissions from Tony, either.
Perhaps, you should do a bit more investigations before responding!
I certainly didn't advertise any product / service for sale since I got more
work than I can handle right now. I have not advertised my service (for a
fee) ANYTIME since I started replying to questions above 5 years ago.
The link I posted go directly to a comprehensive article on database
corruptions by Tony Toews. This article lists many corruption symptoms &
possible solutions which might / might not include "AOIndex". Tony may have
some "sponsor links" but no pop-up ads AFAIK and the article does not offer
Tony's "help to recover the database for you" (at a price), either.
And no, I don't get any commissions from Tony, either.
Perhaps, you should do a bit more investigations before responding!
B
Brendan Reynolds
In addition to the points that Van has already made, you should consider the
fact that both Van and Tony have been making very valuable contributions to
this community for many years. I see no comparable contribution from you, at
least not under your present alias. If you have been making such
contributions under a different alias, do please enlighten us.
fact that both Van and Tony have been making very valuable contributions to
this community for many years. I see no comparable contribution from you, at
least not under your present alias. If you have been making such
contributions under a different alias, do please enlighten us.
J
jasenpeters
I DID do investigations and they have been reported to the proper
authorities.
The pattern becomes perfectly clear once you review the responses to
many of these
database corruption listings.
But, Van, what is the point of just randomly "announcing" this general
problem or website reference?
It's not like your asking a question, and it's not like there aren't
enough references in these NG's to
this issue, already. There are hundreds, what difference would your
reference really make?
Any one using NG's for the first time will get all those already listed
references to this problem.
Look, I believe you when you say you're not profiting from this. I also
believe you have good intentions. This is not
an indictment of you or Tony's services. The issue is the sensitivity
of the matter at hand.
But the randomness is suspect. And, if you can, consider the title of
your post from the point of view of an outsider:
"AOIndex error".
Now, knowing that these NG's are here to answer specific questions
about specific problems (mostly), are you trying to say that this title
is, without a doubt, not misleading, in the sense that your post will
address the issue in a specific manner? I can not agree.
Your title should have been more like, "Access DB errors, prevention
and possible solutions"
This way readers understand clearly that no particular issue is
necessarily addressed.
How many people who have this specific problem (AOIndex) do you think
is going to open this
up with the hope that someone is finally ready to rise to do the right
thing and demonstrate some cause and effect of this
db error. (Which, by the way, completely makes a db useless and
nullifies all the hard work that has been done.)
It may seem like a sensitive issue, because it IS a sensitive issue.
If you consider what it's like to develop a complex application, where
money, time and man hours have gone into it, and something as
mysterious and arcane as this, completely destroys the app.
And no one here should be exploiting that disposition.
We should all endeavor to publicly solve this 'AOIndex' issue, promptly
and clearly.
Profiting from services should only come from those customers who are
willing to pay for the inconvenience of doing the many tasks to make an
application; customers who dont want to study the in depth the issues,
NOT from those who are desperate and willing to help themselves through
research.
People here at the NG's are typically of the ilk who are willing to
help themselves through research and questions posted. It IS the nature
of these NG's.
And you KNOW that to be true.
Now, go do the right thing.
authorities.
The pattern becomes perfectly clear once you review the responses to
many of these
database corruption listings.
But, Van, what is the point of just randomly "announcing" this general
problem or website reference?
It's not like your asking a question, and it's not like there aren't
enough references in these NG's to
this issue, already. There are hundreds, what difference would your
reference really make?
Any one using NG's for the first time will get all those already listed
references to this problem.
Look, I believe you when you say you're not profiting from this. I also
believe you have good intentions. This is not
an indictment of you or Tony's services. The issue is the sensitivity
of the matter at hand.
But the randomness is suspect. And, if you can, consider the title of
your post from the point of view of an outsider:
"AOIndex error".
Now, knowing that these NG's are here to answer specific questions
about specific problems (mostly), are you trying to say that this title
is, without a doubt, not misleading, in the sense that your post will
address the issue in a specific manner? I can not agree.
Your title should have been more like, "Access DB errors, prevention
and possible solutions"
This way readers understand clearly that no particular issue is
necessarily addressed.
How many people who have this specific problem (AOIndex) do you think
is going to open this
up with the hope that someone is finally ready to rise to do the right
thing and demonstrate some cause and effect of this
db error. (Which, by the way, completely makes a db useless and
nullifies all the hard work that has been done.)
It may seem like a sensitive issue, because it IS a sensitive issue.
If you consider what it's like to develop a complex application, where
money, time and man hours have gone into it, and something as
mysterious and arcane as this, completely destroys the app.
And no one here should be exploiting that disposition.
We should all endeavor to publicly solve this 'AOIndex' issue, promptly
and clearly.
Profiting from services should only come from those customers who are
willing to pay for the inconvenience of doing the many tasks to make an
application; customers who dont want to study the in depth the issues,
NOT from those who are desperate and willing to help themselves through
research.
People here at the NG's are typically of the ilk who are willing to
help themselves through research and questions posted. It IS the nature
of these NG's.
And you KNOW that to be true.
Now, go do the right thing.
D
Dirk Goldgar
But, Van, what is the point of just randomly "announcing" this general
problem or website reference?
It's not like your asking a question, and it's not like there aren't
enough references in these NG's to
this issue, already. There are hundreds, what difference would your
reference really make?
Is it possible that you didn't see the message that Van was replying to,
and thought he was just posting some sort of announcement? He did quote
the message in his response, and the original message does show up
properly threaded in my newsreader.
J
Jeff Conrad
<Completely mind-boggling false accusations snipped>
Is this April Fool's Day or something??
Where on earth in left field is this coming form?
Good grief, this is so far from the truth I cannot help
I cannot take a word of this as serious.
Van is a respected member of the Access community and
has devoted countless hours of his time to help people all
over the world. He has thousands upon thousands of posts
in these newsgroups and NEVER, EVER advertised his
services even ONCE!!!
The topic of the thread and his response were completely legitimate.
There is no ulterior motive here. You apparently will not believe
Van, Dirk, or Brendan, fine.
So is Google in on Van's scheme then as well?
http://tinyurl.com/5mtwf
Read the thread and click on the "Show Quoted Text" area.
You will see (if you even bother to check) that Van was
RESPONDING to a question, not just randomly posting
a link to Tony's site!
Is this April Fool's Day or something??
Where on earth in left field is this coming form?
Good grief, this is so far from the truth I cannot help
I cannot take a word of this as serious.
Van is a respected member of the Access community and
has devoted countless hours of his time to help people all
over the world. He has thousands upon thousands of posts
in these newsgroups and NEVER, EVER advertised his
services even ONCE!!!
The topic of the thread and his response were completely legitimate.
There is no ulterior motive here. You apparently will not believe
Van, Dirk, or Brendan, fine.
So is Google in on Van's scheme then as well?
http://tinyurl.com/5mtwf
Read the thread and click on the "Show Quoted Text" area.
You will see (if you even bother to check) that Van was
RESPONDING to a question, not just randomly posting
a link to Tony's site!
J
jasenpeters
Gentlemen, I appreciate your response, but....
My apologies,
Dirk has the where with all to realize that this post, I found all
alone, as if it were just random.
I found it while skimming google groups "microsoft.public.access - Mar
24, 10:16 pm by Van T. Dinh", I found only one messge and no previous
messages.
Now, Mr. Reynolds, do you really think that someone can not have an
opinion or point out a recognizable mistake unless they have
contribution credentials?
If so, then, I have a newbie question:
At what point does one become entitled to have a voice on these NG's?
Google just asked for an account to be set up. I didn't realize that
one
had to earn his way in to the 'club'. I guess I'm confused, I thought
this was an open service.
Should google have those who respond to demonstrate their credentials?
Maybe a certificate or such. You know, you never can tell. There are
many nefarious trolls
responding to take advantage of innocent honest people asking for
advice on these NG's. A certificate of credentials available for the
readers review, would actually be
a good thing. At least better than MVP, BBC, ABC, PDQ, PGP, DOS,
whatever... I think Oracle is selling that tripe too....
Check your calendar Mr. Conrad, it's March.
If you could, please specify what exactly is far from the truth. That
kind of vagueness is what perpetuates misunderstandings.
I made no comment that Van was scheming. I simply and clearly, if you
read, stated that his title was misleading.
I also pointed out general behaviors on these NG's, that need to be
stopped. We have a responsibility to up hold the integrity of this
knowledge we are
unconditionally obligated to give.
And as Mr. Goldgar pointed out, if the title is all alone, that this
seems suspect, just coming out of nowhere.
And just to be clear, are you saying, Mr. Conrad: (ie being far from
the truth)
That taking advantage of people who need help on these NG's is ok?
That we dont have a responsibility to point out underhanded or
suspicious posts?
That we dont have a responsibility to help and protect others who
post as well as preserve the facts about Access, etc, public and
undocumented?
You might want to detox in rehab, there junkie ;-) Too much of
anything can eventually get to your head.
I hope my mistake and delivery doesn't take from the message of 'not
taking advantage of people in need'.
Thanks for clearing up the matter, my apologies.
Jasen Peters
No credentials earned, apparently.
Christ Church, NZ (not left field)
My apologies,
Dirk has the where with all to realize that this post, I found all
alone, as if it were just random.
I found it while skimming google groups "microsoft.public.access - Mar
24, 10:16 pm by Van T. Dinh", I found only one messge and no previous
messages.
Now, Mr. Reynolds, do you really think that someone can not have an
opinion or point out a recognizable mistake unless they have
contribution credentials?
If so, then, I have a newbie question:
At what point does one become entitled to have a voice on these NG's?
Google just asked for an account to be set up. I didn't realize that
one
had to earn his way in to the 'club'. I guess I'm confused, I thought
this was an open service.
Should google have those who respond to demonstrate their credentials?
Maybe a certificate or such. You know, you never can tell. There are
many nefarious trolls
responding to take advantage of innocent honest people asking for
advice on these NG's. A certificate of credentials available for the
readers review, would actually be
a good thing. At least better than MVP, BBC, ABC, PDQ, PGP, DOS,
whatever... I think Oracle is selling that tripe too....
Check your calendar Mr. Conrad, it's March.
If you could, please specify what exactly is far from the truth. That
kind of vagueness is what perpetuates misunderstandings.
I made no comment that Van was scheming. I simply and clearly, if you
read, stated that his title was misleading.
I also pointed out general behaviors on these NG's, that need to be
stopped. We have a responsibility to up hold the integrity of this
knowledge we are
unconditionally obligated to give.
And as Mr. Goldgar pointed out, if the title is all alone, that this
seems suspect, just coming out of nowhere.
And just to be clear, are you saying, Mr. Conrad: (ie being far from
the truth)
That taking advantage of people who need help on these NG's is ok?
That we dont have a responsibility to point out underhanded or
suspicious posts?
That we dont have a responsibility to help and protect others who
post as well as preserve the facts about Access, etc, public and
undocumented?
You might want to detox in rehab, there junkie ;-) Too much of
anything can eventually get to your head.
I hope my mistake and delivery doesn't take from the message of 'not
taking advantage of people in need'.
Thanks for clearing up the matter, my apologies.
Jasen Peters
No credentials earned, apparently.
Christ Church, NZ (not left field)
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