background does not display consistantly on various monitors

[al]

Hi everyone...

I have been browsing the postings and I don't quite get what t do to fix
this problem - I created a site which looks great on my monitor, but awful
when you get down to smaller monitors.

I did not use tables, I just created a background and published that. When I
tried to use tables, the software wanted a minimum of two - I need only one!

I appreciate any directions you can give to fix this - but can anyone
recomeend a good book for beginners - this stuff is not easy. Thanks.

(If anyone wants to see it - www.cglobal.net )

 

[Trevor L.]

Hi everyone...

I have been browsing the postings and I don't quite get what t do to
fix this problem - I created a site which looks great on my monitor,
but awful when you get down to smaller monitors.

I did not use tables, I just created a background and published that.
When I tried to use tables, the software wanted a minimum of two - I
need only one!

I appreciate any directions you can give to fix this - but can anyone
recomeend a good book for beginners - this stuff is not easy. Thanks.

(If anyone wants to see it - www.cglobal.net )

Why would the software want 2 tables ? (rhetorical)
You ended up not using any.

And it is a lot of generated code for what?
1 background image
3 lines of text

But to answer the question:
It may look strange on smaller broswer windows, because the image doesn't
show in full.

Also, there are several divisons - all positioned absolutely and using
pixels for height, width, etc. - that doesn't help.

Do you have FrontPage or are you posting here hoping that FrontPage may get
a better result than Trellian WebPage PRO. Well, it may, it all depends on
how you use it. But you have to buy it and instal it.

I could simplify the code a heck of a lot, but I guess you really need ideas
as to how to do it yourself .

My suggestion is to try to learn what the HTML does. Although I began with
FrontPage, this is what I now do. A good reference for web languages is
http://www.w3schools.com/

BTW, post back with specific problems.

 

[al]

I thought I did post a specific problem - wha tis it you do not understand
about the screen not displaying properly? Why do you insinuate that I do not
own Frontpage? I obviously posted a probelm I have with a site I created with
it.

I hope other replies will be more informative with a tad less downtalking.
--
thank you for any assistance to resolve this problem

Hi everyone...

I have been browsing the postings and I don't quite get what t do to
fix this problem - I created a site which looks great on my monitor,
but awful when you get down to smaller monitors.

I did not use tables, I just created a background and published that.
When I tried to use tables, the software wanted a minimum of two - I
need only one!

I appreciate any directions you can give to fix this - but can anyone
recomeend a good book for beginners - this stuff is not easy. Thanks.

(If anyone wants to see it - www.cglobal.net )

Why would the software want 2 tables ? (rhetorical)
You ended up not using any.

And it is a lot of generated code for what?
1 background image
3 lines of text

But to answer the question:
It may look strange on smaller broswer windows, because the image doesn't
show in full.

Also, there are several divisons - all positioned absolutely and using
pixels for height, width, etc. - that doesn't help.

Do you have FrontPage or are you posting here hoping that FrontPage may get
a better result than Trellian WebPage PRO. Well, it may, it all depends on
how you use it. But you have to buy it and instal it.

I could simplify the code a heck of a lot, but I guess you really need ideas
as to how to do it yourself .

My suggestion is to try to learn what the HTML does. Although I began with
FrontPage, this is what I now do. A good reference for web languages is
http://www.w3schools.com/

BTW, post back with specific problems.

--
Cheers and Good Luck,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/

 

[Trevor L.]

I thought I did post a specific problem - wha tis it you do not
understand about the screen not displaying properly? Why do you
insinuate that I do not own Frontpage? I obviously posted a probelm I
have with a site I created with it.

I hope other replies will be more informative with a tad less
downtalking. --
thank you for any assistance to resolve this problem

I am not trying to downtalk at all. I do not know your level of expertise,
so I am in the dark.

Your site certainly does not appear to be created by FrontPage - look at the
<meta> tags.
So I wondered why not. That is, do you have FP?

Your problem was "I created a site which looks great on my monitor, but
awful when you get down to smaller monitors."

That is not very specific to my eyes
How does it look awful?
Is the image the wrong size?
Is the image misplaced?
Is the image distorted?
Are the colours wrong?
Are the lines of text misplaced?

Please let me (and others) know so we can try to help.

My immediate sugegstion is to take out all <div> tags, and just write the
lines of text where you want them. Tables are a good way to position text
and don't need absolute positioning. And if FP insists on two tables, I'd be
very surprised.

What do others think about:
1. The use of so many <div>s?
2. The absolute absolute positioning of these <div>s?
3. The extraneous code in the page referred to?
4. Does FP require two tables when one is asked for?

BTW, I am qute happy to write the code to do what you want it to do.

 

[Ronx]

The page was last edited in "Trellian WebPage PRO", but I can see signs
that FrontPage may have also been used.

Dump the absolute positioning - it does nothing for the page except make it
impossible to see in my browser.
Lay out the page in a table, or learn how to use CSS layouts that scale to
the browser.

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

You can write just one table with FP.
Yes, a lot of code there for that page.
There's a miniscule hyperlink "dot" in Texas that no one will ever see.
The bg image is too big at 1661 wide. I think I'd might use it in tables
rather than bg image.


| al wrote:
| > I thought I did post a specific problem - wha tis it you do not
| > understand about the screen not displaying properly? Why do you
| > insinuate that I do not own Frontpage? I obviously posted a probelm I
| > have with a site I created with it.
| >
| > I hope other replies will be more informative with a tad less
| > downtalking. --
| > thank you for any assistance to resolve this problem
|
| I am not trying to downtalk at all. I do not know your level of expertise,
| so I am in the dark.
|
| Your site certainly does not appear to be created by FrontPage - look at
the
| <meta> tags.
| So I wondered why not. That is, do you have FP?
|
| Your problem was "I created a site which looks great on my monitor, but
| awful when you get down to smaller monitors."
|
| That is not very specific to my eyes
| How does it look awful?
| Is the image the wrong size?
| Is the image misplaced?
| Is the image distorted?
| Are the colours wrong?
| Are the lines of text misplaced?
|
| Please let me (and others) know so we can try to help.
|
| My immediate sugegstion is to take out all <div> tags, and just write the
| lines of text where you want them. Tables are a good way to position text
| and don't need absolute positioning. And if FP insists on two tables, I'd
be
| very surprised.
|
| What do others think about:
| 1. The use of so many <div>s?
| 2. The absolute absolute positioning of these <div>s?
| 3. The extraneous code in the page referred to?
| 4. Does FP require two tables when one is asked for?
|
| BTW, I am qute happy to write the code to do what you want it to do.
| --
| Cheers,
| Trevor L.
| [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
|

 

[Funkadyleik Spynwhanker]

Welcome to the world of web development.

You can control;

- layout
- images
- scripting

Basically, you lay out a page and hope it works.

What you can't control;

- monitor color settings
- monitor color hue and temp
- monitor size
- monitor refresh rate
- monitor resolution
- monitor dot pitch
- video card memory
- computer memory
- computer speed
- computer hard drive space
- browser version
- browser type
- if the browser displays images at all
- operating system
- plugins installed
- screen space
- user experience
- stupid shit the ISP may do
- stupid shit the user may do
- macular degeneration
- blindness
- deafness
- nearsightedness
- farsightedness
- crappy fluorescent lighting
- crappy incandescent lighting
- cat on keyboard
- drunk user
- high user
- crappy anti-virus software
- crappy firewall
- crappy wireless transmission
- etc.

Your expectation that it will look the same in all environments is
unwarranted and unrealistic.

Stop it, it will only make you miserable.

HTML = HyperText Markup Language. It's just a suggestion about how you want
it to look. Exact outcome is up to the users' stuff, not your stuff simply
because it is assembled at their end from HTML instructions. If you want
exact, stick to print or video.

Now... only a wild guess cuz you DIDNT say what you thought was wrong with
it.... you are using a huge high-res image as a bg that will get compressed
or stretched (where all that nice shading will turn to blocks), displayed
and shown differently on different monitors. So you can either 1) buy a new
monitor (all the same model) for every user of your site or 2) get used to
it. Likewise you are using proprietary code to make the background stick in
one place that doesnt work on a high percentage of browsers out there.

Or... just maybe... you should do stuff on the web that looks good in a wide
range of situations like the rest of us do. What you are trying to do won't
hold up under a good portion of machines out there. Deal with it or change
what you are doing.

 

[al]

OK guys - I surrender.... I do own FP2003 but I never even heard of
Trellian so I have no clue what that is all about.

As you can easily tell, I am a total novice (borderline virgin - no wise
cracks) - and what I should have said was on my monitor it displays perfectly
but on other monitors you see a partial screen and have to scroll to get
around the page - I foolishly thought FP would compensate for variables like
that.

I created this by using a blank FP single page and inserting a background
image of the globe - I guess the simplest question to ask is if following
that proceedure (balnk page to inserted image) what must be done to make sure
the image displays what I see the same on any computer monitor from 14 inches
to 21 inches - and I hope I have said that a little more accurately. Thanks
guys.

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

ok start by looking at Patty's Site...it may reference DW but that doesn't
matter:

http://thepattysite.com/window_sizes1.cfm


|
| OK guys - I surrender.... I do own FP2003 but I never even heard of
| Trellian so I have no clue what that is all about.
|
| As you can easily tell, I am a total novice (borderline virgin - no wise
| cracks) - and what I should have said was on my monitor it displays
perfectly
| but on other monitors you see a partial screen and have to scroll to get
| around the page - I foolishly thought FP would compensate for variables
like
| that.
|
| I created this by using a blank FP single page and inserting a background
| image of the globe - I guess the simplest question to ask is if following
| that proceedure (balnk page to inserted image) what must be done to make
sure
| the image displays what I see the same on any computer monitor from 14
inches
| to 21 inches - and I hope I have said that a little more accurately.
Thanks
| guys.
| --
| thank you for any assistance to resolve this problem
|
|
| "Ronx" wrote:
|
| > The page was last edited in "Trellian WebPage PRO", but I can see signs
| > that FrontPage may have also been used.
| >
| > Dump the absolute positioning - it does nothing for the page except make
it
| > impossible to see in my browser.
| > Lay out the page in a table, or learn how to use CSS layouts that scale
to
| > the browser.
| > --
| > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| > | > > Hi everyone...
| > >
| > > I have been browsing the postings and I don't quite get what t do to
fix
| > > this problem - I created a site which looks great on my monitor, but
| > > awful
| > > when you get down to smaller monitors.
| > >
| > > I did not use tables, I just created a background and published that.
| > > When I
| > > tried to use tables, the software wanted a minimum of two - I need
only
| > > one!
| > >
| > > I appreciate any directions you can give to fix this - but can anyone
| > > recomeend a good book for beginners - this stuff is not easy. Thanks.
| > >
| > > (If anyone wants to see it - www.cglobal.net )
| > > --
| > > thank you for any assistance to resolve this problem
| >
| >
| >