BCM & XP Home Limited Account

[Gavin]

I am having no luck getting BCM to work in my "Limited" Account in XP Home.
BCM cannot contact the Database Engine. It works fine if I bump up privilege
level to "Administrator", but that will defeat the purpose - for security
reasons I handle all email through the "Limited" Account, just in case I
accidentally open something malicious.

I have spent many, many hours trying to sort this on my own first. The
closest solution I can find is that I need to allow the "Limited" Account to
be in the BCM users group, but I think this means XP Pro not Home.

Can anybody suggest a work around - BCM is really important to me.

Thank you for your attention to my problem.

Gavin

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

if you want to stay on a limited account - at the very least you'll need to
run outlook as an admin (look on the exe's properties) - I'm not sure if
anything else needs admin rights though.

But... provided you don't unblock blocked attachment types, the chances of
accidentally running an email virus are slim. If you are worried you'll
accidentally open and run a virus that comes in a zip, you can add zip to
the blocked file types,which forces you to save it before opening.
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup/blockzips.htm

If you use antivirus on it's autoprotect settings, you are protected to the
degree that the AV has updated definitions, as all items opened or saved are
scanned.

A bigger worry is malicious websites, but unless you browse the seedier side
of the web, your chances of problems are low too - just like in real life,
risky behavior is the problem. Use AV (updated frequently) and keep IE
security on med-high or high and you'll improve your level of safety.



--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

 

[Gavin]

Hi Diane,
Thanks very much for your answers - I appreciate your time very much.

So the short answer is that I can't use BCM with the "Limited" Account and
need to bump the privilege level to "administrator" to use BCM ?

Outlook appears to be running completely normally in the "limited" account
in all other ways. Is there a "groups"-type facility in XP Home that will
allow the "limited" account to access BCM?

Because I send and receive a lot of email, and really really really love my
computer (I'm writing my first ever book using my notebook at the moment) for
security reasons I really don't like the idea of accessing the internet with
the "administrator" account except to update NIS/NAV, visit Windows Update &
use the MSBA facility. I also use dial-up rather than Broadband for the same
reason. I am not a visitor to the seedier bits of the net, but I was once
caught by a very new trojan (via Outlook Express) that did not have
definitions available under Windows 98SE and am not keen to repeat the
experience. I felt like my house had been broken into.

Thanks again for your time Diane, and if anyone else has a suggestion, I'd
love to hear from you.

Gavin

--
The Dreamer of the Day

if you want to stay on a limited account - at the very least you'll need to
run outlook as an admin (look on the exe's properties) - I'm not sure if
anything else needs admin rights though.

But... provided you don't unblock blocked attachment types, the chances of
accidentally running an email virus are slim. If you are worried you'll
accidentally open and run a virus that comes in a zip, you can add zip to
the blocked file types,which forces you to save it before opening.
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup/blockzips.htm

If you use antivirus on it's autoprotect settings, you are protected to the
degree that the AV has updated definitions, as all items opened or saved are
scanned.

A bigger worry is malicious websites, but unless you browse the seedier side
of the web, your chances of problems are low too - just like in real life,
risky behavior is the problem. Use AV (updated frequently) and keep IE
security on med-high or high and you'll improve your level of safety.



--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

I am having no luck getting BCM to work in my "Limited" Account in XP Home.
BCM cannot contact the Database Engine. It works fine if I bump up
privilege
level to "Administrator", but that will defeat the purpose - for security
reasons I handle all email through the "Limited" Account, just in case I
accidentally open something malicious.

I have spent many, many hours trying to sort this on my own first. The
closest solution I can find is that I need to allow the "Limited" Account
to
be in the BCM users group, but I think this means XP Pro not Home.

Can anybody suggest a work around - BCM is really important to me.

Thank you for your attention to my problem.

Gavin

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

At the very least you need to bump the privileges for the OL exe up to
admin. You do this but changing the properties on the outlook.exe so it runs
under admin rights - but I'm not sure if BCM needs more files with admin
right, since I never tried it. (I have a friend who wanted to see if people
could actually work in limited and he had to give several apps admin rights
to get anything done. He uses Pegasus, not Outlook & BCM, so I can't ask him
if only Ol needs admin rights.)

While I can understand your reluctance about viruses and Trojans, Windows
2000/XP are light years beyond the 9x versions in security - especially if
you have all of the latest patches. (That virus would not get in today with
the default security settings in OE.) With IE security set on at least
medium high (use trusted zones for sites you trust) and an up-to-date AV
scanner - oh, and a firewall (even on dialup) - your risk is very low even
using broadband and admin rights.


--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

Hi Diane,
Thanks very much for your answers - I appreciate your time very much.

So the short answer is that I can't use BCM with the "Limited" Account and
need to bump the privilege level to "administrator" to use BCM ?

Outlook appears to be running completely normally in the "limited" account
in all other ways. Is there a "groups"-type facility in XP Home that will
allow the "limited" account to access BCM?

Because I send and receive a lot of email, and really really really love
my
computer (I'm writing my first ever book using my notebook at the moment)
for
security reasons I really don't like the idea of accessing the internet
with
the "administrator" account except to update NIS/NAV, visit Windows Update
&
use the MSBA facility. I also use dial-up rather than Broadband for the
same
reason. I am not a visitor to the seedier bits of the net, but I was once
caught by a very new trojan (via Outlook Express) that did not have
definitions available under Windows 98SE and am not keen to repeat the
experience. I felt like my house had been broken into.

Thanks again for your time Diane, and if anyone else has a suggestion, I'd
love to hear from you.

Gavin

--
The Dreamer of the Day

if you want to stay on a limited account - at the very least you'll need
to
run outlook as an admin (look on the exe's properties) - I'm not sure if
anything else needs admin rights though.

But... provided you don't unblock blocked attachment types, the chances
of
accidentally running an email virus are slim. If you are worried you'll
accidentally open and run a virus that comes in a zip, you can add zip to
the blocked file types,which forces you to save it before opening.
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup/blockzips.htm

If you use antivirus on it's autoprotect settings, you are protected to
the
degree that the AV has updated definitions, as all items opened or saved
are
scanned.

A bigger worry is malicious websites, but unless you browse the seedier
side
of the web, your chances of problems are low too - just like in real
life,
risky behavior is the problem. Use AV (updated frequently) and keep
IE
security on med-high or high and you'll improve your level of safety.



--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

I am having no luck getting BCM to work in my "Limited" Account in XP
Home.
BCM cannot contact the Database Engine. It works fine if I bump up
privilege
level to "Administrator", but that will defeat the purpose - for
security
reasons I handle all email through the "Limited" Account, just in case
I
accidentally open something malicious.

I have spent many, many hours trying to sort this on my own first. The
closest solution I can find is that I need to allow the "Limited"
Account
to
be in the BCM users group, but I think this means XP Pro not Home.

Can anybody suggest a work around - BCM is really important to me.

Thank you for your attention to my problem.

Gavin

 

[Gavin]

Hi Diane,
Thanks for your time and advice.

I tried to change the privileges for the Outlook.exe, but am not sure how to
do it. I tried to run secpol while logged in the admin a/c thinking I could
add the limited a/c's outlook.exe to the admin gp, but to no avail. I am
guessing this is a facility of XP Pro only?

Is it done by righting clicking and selecting "run as" from the dialog?

Thanks in Advance,
Gavin


--
The Dreamer of the Day

At the very least you need to bump the privileges for the OL exe up to
admin. You do this but changing the properties on the outlook.exe so it runs
under admin rights - but I'm not sure if BCM needs more files with admin
right, since I never tried it. (I have a friend who wanted to see if people
could actually work in limited and he had to give several apps admin rights
to get anything done. He uses Pegasus, not Outlook & BCM, so I can't ask him
if only Ol needs admin rights.)

While I can understand your reluctance about viruses and Trojans, Windows
2000/XP are light years beyond the 9x versions in security - especially if
you have all of the latest patches. (That virus would not get in today with
the default security settings in OE.) With IE security set on at least
medium high (use trusted zones for sites you trust) and an up-to-date AV
scanner - oh, and a firewall (even on dialup) - your risk is very low even
using broadband and admin rights.


--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

Hi Diane,
Thanks very much for your answers - I appreciate your time very much.

So the short answer is that I can't use BCM with the "Limited" Account and
need to bump the privilege level to "administrator" to use BCM ?

Outlook appears to be running completely normally in the "limited" account
in all other ways. Is there a "groups"-type facility in XP Home that will
allow the "limited" account to access BCM?

Because I send and receive a lot of email, and really really really love
my
computer (I'm writing my first ever book using my notebook at the moment)
for
security reasons I really don't like the idea of accessing the internet
with
the "administrator" account except to update NIS/NAV, visit Windows Update
&
use the MSBA facility. I also use dial-up rather than Broadband for the
same
reason. I am not a visitor to the seedier bits of the net, but I was once
caught by a very new trojan (via Outlook Express) that did not have
definitions available under Windows 98SE and am not keen to repeat the
experience. I felt like my house had been broken into.

Thanks again for your time Diane, and if anyone else has a suggestion, I'd
love to hear from you.

Gavin

--
The Dreamer of the Day

if you want to stay on a limited account - at the very least you'll need
to
run outlook as an admin (look on the exe's properties) - I'm not sure if
anything else needs admin rights though.

But... provided you don't unblock blocked attachment types, the chances
of
accidentally running an email virus are slim. If you are worried you'll
accidentally open and run a virus that comes in a zip, you can add zip to
the blocked file types,which forces you to save it before opening.
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup/blockzips.htm

If you use antivirus on it's autoprotect settings, you are protected to
the
degree that the AV has updated definitions, as all items opened or saved
are
scanned.

A bigger worry is malicious websites, but unless you browse the seedier
side
of the web, your chances of problems are low too - just like in real
life,
risky behavior is the problem. Use AV (updated frequently) and keep
IE
security on med-high or high and you'll improve your level of safety.



--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


I am having no luck getting BCM to work in my "Limited" Account in XP
Home.
BCM cannot contact the Database Engine. It works fine if I bump up
privilege
level to "Administrator", but that will defeat the purpose - for
security
reasons I handle all email through the "Limited" Account, just in case
I
accidentally open something malicious.

I have spent many, many hours trying to sort this on my own first. The
closest solution I can find is that I need to allow the "Limited"
Account
to
be in the BCM users group, but I think this means XP Pro not Home.

Can anybody suggest a work around - BCM is really important to me.

Thank you for your attention to my problem.

Gavin

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

I got a new computer today with Home preinstalled, so before I wipe it and
install pro, I'll see if I can get BCM working with a limited account.

Use the one on the right click menu... that's what my friend does.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

Hi Diane,
Thanks for your time and advice.

I tried to change the privileges for the Outlook.exe, but am not sure how
to
do it. I tried to run secpol while logged in the admin a/c thinking I
could
add the limited a/c's outlook.exe to the admin gp, but to no avail. I am
guessing this is a facility of XP Pro only?

Is it done by righting clicking and selecting "run as" from the dialog?

Thanks in Advance,
Gavin


--
The Dreamer of the Day

At the very least you need to bump the privileges for the OL exe up to
admin. You do this but changing the properties on the outlook.exe so it
runs
under admin rights - but I'm not sure if BCM needs more files with admin
right, since I never tried it. (I have a friend who wanted to see if
people
could actually work in limited and he had to give several apps admin
rights
to get anything done. He uses Pegasus, not Outlook & BCM, so I can't ask
him
if only Ol needs admin rights.)

While I can understand your reluctance about viruses and Trojans, Windows
2000/XP are light years beyond the 9x versions in security - especially
if
you have all of the latest patches. (That virus would not get in today
with
the default security settings in OE.) With IE security set on at least
medium high (use trusted zones for sites you trust) and an up-to-date AV
scanner - oh, and a firewall (even on dialup) - your risk is very low
even
using broadband and admin rights.


--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

Hi Diane,
Thanks very much for your answers - I appreciate your time very much.

So the short answer is that I can't use BCM with the "Limited" Account
and
need to bump the privilege level to "administrator" to use BCM ?

Outlook appears to be running completely normally in the "limited"
account
in all other ways. Is there a "groups"-type facility in XP Home that
will
allow the "limited" account to access BCM?

Because I send and receive a lot of email, and really really really
love
my
computer (I'm writing my first ever book using my notebook at the
moment)
for
security reasons I really don't like the idea of accessing the internet
with
the "administrator" account except to update NIS/NAV, visit Windows
Update
&
use the MSBA facility. I also use dial-up rather than Broadband for
the
same
reason. I am not a visitor to the seedier bits of the net, but I was
once
caught by a very new trojan (via Outlook Express) that did not have
definitions available under Windows 98SE and am not keen to repeat the
experience. I felt like my house had been broken into.

Thanks again for your time Diane, and if anyone else has a suggestion,
I'd
love to hear from you.

Gavin

--
The Dreamer of the Day


:

if you want to stay on a limited account - at the very least you'll
need
to
run outlook as an admin (look on the exe's properties) - I'm not sure
if
anything else needs admin rights though.

But... provided you don't unblock blocked attachment types, the
chances
of
accidentally running an email virus are slim. If you are worried
you'll
accidentally open and run a virus that comes in a zip, you can add zip
to
the blocked file types,which forces you to save it before opening.
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup/blockzips.htm

If you use antivirus on it's autoprotect settings, you are protected
to
the
degree that the AV has updated definitions, as all items opened or
saved
are
scanned.

A bigger worry is malicious websites, but unless you browse the
seedier
side
of the web, your chances of problems are low too - just like in real
life,
risky behavior is the problem. Use AV (updated frequently) and
keep
IE
security on med-high or high and you'll improve your level of safety.



--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


I am having no luck getting BCM to work in my "Limited" Account in XP
Home.
BCM cannot contact the Database Engine. It works fine if I bump up
privilege
level to "Administrator", but that will defeat the purpose - for
security
reasons I handle all email through the "Limited" Account, just in
case
I
accidentally open something malicious.

I have spent many, many hours trying to sort this on my own first.
The
closest solution I can find is that I need to allow the "Limited"
Account
to
be in the BCM users group, but I think this means XP Pro not Home.

Can anybody suggest a work around - BCM is really important to me.

Thank you for your attention to my problem.

Gavin