Blue ghost and sticky lines, etc.

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sunshine

Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: intel

I could do anything with PP 2000, and I am now going nuts trying to use PP2008 for Mac. When I draw a line, if I click on both ends the line goes off into outer-space. If I click on the first point and then drag, it goes where I want it, but sometimes it sticks to my cursor when I release it like I've got sticky fingers. Also, frequently when I try to move something I get what I call a "blue ghost" - a blue area as if I was trying to put a boundary on an object - which I'm not. When I try to edit points I find I can't control them the way I used to be able to do - its as if they have a mind of their own. Part of that problem I believe is that they are trying to "snap" to a grid. I used to be able to turn that off, but I don't know how to now - and the help menu is next to worthless. I have finally figured out that if I want to create a freeform figure, I should go to the freeform symbol under "lines & connectors", then control-click and hit the "run command" line of text. Otherwise, I can't control the freeform drawing. Why has such a great program been ruined like this?
 
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Jeff Chapman

Hello Sunshine,
When I draw a line, if I click on both ends the line goes off into
outer-space.

Not exactly sure what you mean by "clicking on both ends"... How can you
click both ends of a line segment at the same time? Maybe you mean clicking
on "either end"... but nothing happens when I just click on either end of a
line. On the other hand, DOUBLE-clicking a line or any other shape does
bring up the Format Shape dialog, but it seems that¹s not what you mean...
If I click on the first point and then drag, it goes where I want
it, but sometimes it sticks to my cursor when I release it like I've got
sticky fingers.

You can turn off the automatic snapping by going to View > Guides and
unchecking everything there. I did that, and I have no problems so far in
aligning things as I want. Also, if you hold down the Command key at the
same time as you drag, you can temporarily disable snapping, even if it¹s
on.
Also, frequently when I try to move something I get what I
call a "blue ghost" - a blue area as if I was trying to put a boundary on an
object - which I'm not.

You could be referring to the automatic style that PPT 2008 is assigning to
your drawing objects. They¹ve set it to automatically add shadows to drawing
objects, sort of an homage to OmniGraffle... but I think that¹s a little
presumptuous on the part of the Mac Office team to think that we all prefer
shadows and pale blue colors to everything we draw. Fortunately, it¹s easy
enough to fix. In the Formatting Palette, open the Quick Styles and Effects
section, and try selecting a style amongst the samples that doesn¹t include
a shadow or an outline. Then, right-click on the line, select ³Set as
Default Line [or whatever shape you¹re using]², and from now on, all lines
that you drag and drop to the slide or draw will use your style. If you draw
other shapes besides lines, you¹ll have to do the same for the first shape
that you draw, but it should work for other shapes thereafter.
When I try to edit points I find I can't control them
the way I used to be able to do - its as if they have a mind of their own.
Part of that problem I believe is that they are trying to "snap" to a grid. I
used to be able to turn that off, but I don't know how to now - and the help
menu is next to worthless.

Aside from the substandard help pages, I think that you¹re right ­ you need
to turn off or temporarily disable the snapping feature, as explained above.
Try it and let us know how it worked.
I have finally figured out that if I want to create
a freeform figure, I should go to the freeform symbol under "lines &
connectors", then control-click and hit the "run command" line of text.
Otherwise, I can't control the freeform drawing.

There¹s a freeform shape already available in the Shapes part of the
toolbar.
Click Shapes, Lines and Connectors, and find the fourth one down in the
middle. You can edit points once you¹ve drawn the shape by right-clicking
and selecting Edit Points. Also, once you¹ve drawn any shape, you can
right-click it and select Convert to Freeform. Then you¹ll be able to edit
the paths.

Let us know how it all worked!
It must be difficult to adjust to a new program ­ I haven¹t used Office 2004
for Mac much, but I have used Office 2000-2007 for Windows, and now I¹m on
Office 2008 for Mac. Maybe a lot of the confusion that Office for Mac 2008
users are feeling is centered around the fact that a lot of functionality is
starting to parallel Office 2007 for Windows. Anyway, post if you have more
questions ­ we¹ll be happy to help you out.

Jeff Chapman
 
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sunshine

Thank you - you answered most of my questions.

° Regarding a line "going off into outer-space" what I meant was that if I activate the line tool and click once, rather than dragging, it puts a default line in place at an arbitrary angle. Of course, just as in PP 2000 (Windows), I need to drag the line into position in order to place it, so I'm afraid my concern was extraneous.

° I haven't been able to duplicate the "sticky fingers" thing since I turned off the "snap to grid" and "snap to shape" feature. That was the big problem I was having, and when i tried finding how to do that in the help file, I struck out. you pointed me in the right direction.

° By blue ghost I really meant the blue area that shows up when you drag the cursor over an area when you want to highlight objects. The problem I was having was it seemed to be turning on without any intent on my part - for example, when I tried to move a line, the blue box opened up as I moved it. Once again, that's not happening anymore. Is that also possibly due to my turning the "snap" commands off? By the way, regarding the "automatic style" for objects and lines, I also think it's presumptuous. I know that I can change the default, but only for the piece I am working on. I would like to change the default for all future jobs I may open - but apparently there is no way to do that.

° Regarding editing points, if I create a freeform object and control-click it to go to the "edit points" command, I find that when I grab a black point to move it, it creates two new hollow points on each side of the black point I have grabbed and creates a very odd shape to the figure. This is very different from my experience with PP 2000 for Windows which simply lets you grab a point and move it wherever you wish. I'd like to know how to solve that problem if it is possible.

There are other differences between this new program and the one I used and loved in the past - PP 2000 for Windows. For example, you can no longer fill an object with a pattern. Before retirement, I worked for a large company and I was responsible for new product development. We wanted to build on the good features of prior products - not change them. As the old saying goes, "if it ain't broke" don't fix it".
 
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Jeff Chapman

Hello again, Sunshine,

Glad to see that most of your problems were resolved...
° Regarding a line "going off into outer-space" what I meant was that if I
activate the line tool and click once, rather than dragging, it puts a default
line in place at an arbitrary angle. Of course, just as in PP 2000 (Windows),
I need to drag the line into position in order to place it, so I'm afraid my
concern was extraneous.

Now I understand. I was able to duplicate this. When you select a line and
then just click on the slide, you get a one-inch line going down 45 degrees.
Doesn't seem too helpful, eh. But the line tool wasn't meant to be used this
way, anyway, as you related - you have to click, drag and then release to
create a line segment.
° By blue ghost I really meant the blue area that shows up when you drag the
cursor over an area when you want to highlight objects. The problem I was
having was it seemed to be turning on without any intent on my part - for
example, when I tried to move a line, the blue box opened up as I moved it.
Once again, that's not happening anymore. Is that also possibly due to my
turning the "snap" commands off?

Ah, I think you're referring to the dynamic guides function, which is
accessible view the View > Guides menu. This function displays those little
blue lines as you draw or move shapes, to help you place them better. I've
found that this feature can be good when you're lining things up with
precision on the slide. But it can just as easily be turned off, as you've
found, if you don't need it. (Actually, it only works when you've got a
shape selected, or when you're drawing a new shape.)
By the way, regarding the "automatic style"
for objects and lines, I also think it's presumptuous. I know that I can
change the default, but only for the piece I am working on. I would like to
change the default for all future jobs I may open - but apparently there is no
way to do that.

There is a way to change the default style, if you'd like to create your own
blank template. Here are the steps:

1. Open a blank presentation.
2. Draw a line and a shape, set them each to the default styles that you
want, and set each one as the default by doing a right-click and selecting
"Use as Default". Erase the shapes if you like (if you don't want to see
them on every presentation you create from now on!).
3. Do a File > Save As... and save the presentation as a PowerPoint template
(.potx) by changing the Format box. It should automatically open up your "My
Templates" folder. Give your new template a name, and save. If the
Properties dialog shows up, click OK to close.
4. Whenever you want to open a new presentation that uses your styles, go to
File > Project Gallery, and click on the My Templates category. All of your
templates should be in there. Double-click the one you want to open.

Not too painful, eh? ;-)
° Regarding editing points, if I create a freeform object and control-click it
to go to the "edit points" command, I find that when I grab a black point to
move it, it creates two new hollow points on each side of the black point I
have grabbed and creates a very odd shape to the figure. This is very
different from my experience with PP 2000 for Windows which simply lets you
grab a point and move it wherever you wish. I'd like to know how to solve that
problem if it is possible.

Ah, yes, the beloved Bezier line tool... In Edit Points mode, doing a
Control+click on a black point (vertex) should bring up a submenu, that lets
you select Smooth Point, Straight Point, or Corner Point. Do you see that
one? If you select Smooth Point, you will get two control handles coming out
of the vertex. This may also alter the paths of your shape... literally
curving them or smoothing them out. At any rate, when you click on a vertex,
do you see the directional handle lines that end in hollow squares? Perhaps
you're moving the handles instead of the vertexes, which is confusing you.

There's a nice tutorial on editing freeform shapes and using the Edit Points
feature at the following URL:

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/powerpoint/HA102392301033.aspx

It applies to PPT 2007 for Windows, but the steps are mostly the same.
There are other differences between this new program and the one I used and
loved in the past - PP 2000 for Windows. For example, you can no longer fill
an object with a pattern.

Yes, the "fill with pattern" feature, eh... That was uniformly ditched in
Office 2007/2008, probably because it didn't get a lot of user requests or
support when they planned the new version. Come to think of it, there wasn't
much that you could do with pattern fills that you can't do with Picture
fills anyway, although it is a shame to see that functionality go. You can
simulate the Pattern fill functionality in Office 2008 like this:

1. Create and save your own pattern image (you can do this in PowerPoint,
Photoshop, or any program that can save an image as JPEG, GIF, or PNG).
2. Double-click on the shape you want to add a pattern to, select the Fill
pane, and click on the Picture tab.
3. Click "Choose a Picture..." select the pattern image you saved and click
OK.
4. Finally, click on the Tile checkbox, and OK your way out of there.

You can even recolor the picture fill without editing and messing with your
original image. Double-click on the shape, click on the Picture category,
and use the Recolor function in the Image Control section to get the colors
you want. You can use the brightness and contrast controls for more fine
tuning.

Let us know how you're coming along!

Jeff Chapman
 

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