Bookmarks--calling TONY with all the Word 2004 problems

[Daiya Mitchell]

Hey Tony ([email protected]),

I suspect you aren't around, but hey, it's worth a try. I've been seeing
spontaneous bookmark generation in Word 2004 for about the last month or so,
which I remember you saying also happened in yours. I just linked it to
running the utility YouControl, on my computer. Do you have YouControl
installed? If not, do you have any clipboard utilities installed?

 

[Kristina Conceicao]

Hey Tony ([email protected]),

I suspect you aren't around, but hey, it's worth a try. I've been seeing
spontaneous bookmark generation in Word 2004 for about the last month or so,
which I remember you saying also happened in yours. I just linked it to
running the utility YouControl, on my computer. Do you have YouControl
installed? If not, do you have any clipboard utilities installed?

Hi Daiya,

I, too, see spontaneous bookmark generation in Word 2004. I have since
I started using it (when it was first released). I don't have
YouControl or any clipboard utilities installed. In my experience, an
"OLE_LINK#" bookmark is generated any time I copy something in Word 2004
and then switch to another application. Even if I'm not actually
pasting it in that app, when I get back to Word, a bookmark is there.

They are easy enough to delete, but it sure is annoying!

Kristina

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

I, too, see spontaneous bookmark generation in Word 2004.

D*mn, I was so hoping to have solved this one. Thanks, Kristina. Can you
check a couple things? The MacBU is trying to reproduce this.

Login to your user account while holding down shift, which prevents your
startup items from loading. Do you still get bookmarks?

I have since
I started using it (when it was first released). I don't have
YouControl or any clipboard utilities installed. In my experience, an
"OLE_LINK#" bookmark is generated any time I copy something in Word 2004
and then switch to another application. Even if I'm not actually
pasting it in that app, when I get back to Word, a bookmark is there.

In my experience, a bookmark is generated every time I cmd-C, regardless of
pasting or switching apps. It takes a second to show up, though.

So how often are you getting bookmarks? Before I installed YouControl, I
was getting them maybe 1x/month, which was probably the "switch to other
app" factor, and I think possibly by design.

They are easy enough to delete,

You must have set up a macro to do so? (I did) It's pretty annoying
one-by-one.

Daiya

 

[Kristina Conceicao]

Login to your user account while holding down shift, which prevents your
startup items from loading. Do you still get bookmarks?

I did a bit more testing and have some additional information for you.
The problem does not happen *unless* Classic is running. I am able to
consistently reproduce the problem both logging in normally and as you
described above. I could not reproduce it either way when Classic was
not running.

In my experience, a bookmark is generated every time I cmd-C, regardless of
pasting or switching apps. It takes a second to show up, though.
So how often are you getting bookmarks?

It happens every time I copy and then switch to another app (Finder,
Excel, Thunderbird...anything), but only when I switch to another app. I
am able to copy to my heart's content with no bookmarks as long as I
stay in Word.

They are easy enough to delete
You must have set up a macro to do so?

Yes, I did.


I am so happy to hear that Mac BU is looking into this!


Kristina

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Thanks very much, Kristina--I'll pass that along.

Daiya

 

[tony]

Same problem here, having multiple instances of Bookmarks added to
documents, and its a BIG issue, because when you export to HTML the
bookmarks remain in the HTML code, which is causing big headaches for
us. Copying and pasting a dozen items into one document results in a
dozen new bookmarks, and each one causes problems with the HTM. This
is a "feature" we urgently need switched off. At present we are back
using an earlier version (Word2001) under classic to avoid the
situation.

Any chance you could share the macro you use to delete all bookmarks?
Or some pointers on the techniques needed to create one which does this
job?

Thanks

Tony Trewinnard

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Here's a DeleteAllBookmarks macro, which I copied from someone else, and
wouldn't myself really know the pointers for it (though in fact there's a
long exegesis of it somewhere on this newsgroup).

Dim i As Long
For i = ActiveDocument.Bookmarks.Count To 1 Step -1
    ActiveDocument.Bookmarks(i).Delete
Next I

You sound like you know what to do with it, but just in case not:
http://daiya.mvps.org/installMacroMac.htm

Do any of these conditions apply to you:
--you copy text and then switch to another application, and the bookmarks
appear
--you are running classic while doing this
--you have YouControl menu utility installed
--you have a multi-item clipboard utility installed

If not, can you sort out any conditions that are causing this? Does this
happen every time you copy or only intermittently? The last poster found it
only happened when Classic was running, can you check that?

--
Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word
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[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Hi Daiya:

The only thing you need to remember with that macro is that Bookmarks (and
Hyperlinks) in Word are two collections which are enumerated by the position
of the bookmark in the file.

So you will note that the code steps BACKWARDS through the document.

Otherwise, if you delete bookmark "1" then look for bookmark "2", you will
miss every second one, because before deleting the next item, Word
recompiles the collection and bookmark "2" now replaces the deleted bookmark
"1" as "1". By the time you go to delete bookmark "2", it has become
bookmark "1", and the thing you are about to delete is now "2" but used to
be "3".

Cheers

Here's a DeleteAllBookmarks macro, which I copied from someone else, and
wouldn't myself really know the pointers for it (though in fact there's a
long exegesis of it somewhere on this newsgroup).

Dim i As Long
For i = ActiveDocument.Bookmarks.Count To 1 Step -1
    ActiveDocument.Bookmarks(i).Delete
Next I

You sound like you know what to do with it, but just in case not:
http://daiya.mvps.org/installMacroMac.htm

Do any of these conditions apply to you:
--you copy text and then switch to another application, and the bookmarks
appear
--you are running classic while doing this
--you have YouControl menu utility installed
--you have a multi-item clipboard utility installed

If not, can you sort out any conditions that are causing this? Does this
happen every time you copy or only intermittently? The last poster found it
only happened when Classic was running, can you check that?

--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Consultant Technical Writer
Sydney, Australia +61 4 1209 1410

 

[tony]

Thanks for that, I should have searched further! For the time being
this solves the problem, deleting all the bookmarks in a document prior
to exporting it to html.