Browser v. magnifies fonts 8pt& up;however they're same from 7pt&

Vanilla · Oct 28, 2005

I understand that design view could differ from browser view. However; my
problem is that it is not consistent. In browser view the fonts from 8pt and
up appear much bigger then they are in design view. I beleive 8pt looks like
12pt. The fonts are in browser view from 7pt and down they look exactly the
same.

I appreciate your help as I am struggling with this problem for quite a
while. Since the fonts in 10 pt and even 8 pt look much bigger than what I
intend to use and 7 pt is a real 7 pt I have a big gap in font sizes.
Here is an example: (I am using Frontpage 2003 & have no knowledge of the
codes)
Thank you

v:shapes="_x0000_s1083"><![endif]>
 

When I am using 8pt fonts or up they look much
bigger in the browser view than in design view. Eg: 8 pt looks
like 12 pt.
 
When I am using 7 pt or smaller they
appear as big as in design view.

Murray · Oct 28, 2005

Points are a print metric, designed for pages that have inch/centimeter
dimensions, not for screens that are made from pixels.

Try using pixels for your unit and see if you achieve more consistency - you
should.

Vanilla · Oct 29, 2005

Thank you Murray for the quick answer; however I do not know how to change
point to pixel. Here is my website that I'm working on, it might help to
shad some light on my problem. http://www.searchenginelocator.com
Thanks again
--
"From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.

Murray said:
Points are a print metric, designed for pages that have inch/centimeter
dimensions, not for screens that are made from pixels.

Try using pixels for your unit and see if you achieve more consistency - you
should.

--
Murray
============

Vanilla said:

I understand that design view could differ from browser view. However; my
problem is that it is not consistent. In browser view the fonts from 8pt
and
up appear much bigger then they are in design view. I beleive 8pt looks
like
12pt. The fonts are in browser view from 7pt and down they look exactly
the
same.

I appreciate your help as I am struggling with this problem for quite a
while. Since the fonts in 10 pt and even 8 pt look much bigger than what
I
intend to use and 7 pt is a real 7 pt I have a big gap in font sizes.
Here is an example: (I am using Frontpage 2003 & have no knowledge of the
codes)
Thank you

v:shapes="_x0000_s1083"><![endif]>
 

When I am using 8pt fonts or up they look much
bigger in the browser view than in design view. Eg: 8 pt looks
like 12 pt.
 
When I am using 7 pt or smaller they
appear as big as in design view. 
 

Click to expand...

Vanilla · Oct 29, 2005

Also as you can see on my web page if I copy the text from other microsoft
programs they are 'stable' they are the same size in browser view.
Thanks
--
"From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.

Murray said:
Points are a print metric, designed for pages that have inch/centimeter
dimensions, not for screens that are made from pixels.

Try using pixels for your unit and see if you achieve more consistency - you
should.

--
Murray
============

Vanilla said:

I understand that design view could differ from browser view. However; my
problem is that it is not consistent. In browser view the fonts from 8pt
and
up appear much bigger then they are in design view. I beleive 8pt looks
like
12pt. The fonts are in browser view from 7pt and down they look exactly
the
same.

I appreciate your help as I am struggling with this problem for quite a
while. Since the fonts in 10 pt and even 8 pt look much bigger than what
I
intend to use and 7 pt is a real 7 pt I have a big gap in font sizes.
Here is an example: (I am using Frontpage 2003 & have no knowledge of the
codes)
Thank you

v:shapes="_x0000_s1083"><![endif]>
 

When I am using 8pt fonts or up they look much
bigger in the browser view than in design view. Eg: 8 pt looks
like 12 pt.
 
When I am using 7 pt or smaller they
appear as big as in design view. 
 

Click to expand...

Stefan B Rusynko · Oct 29, 2005

Look at your code view

This is 10 pt Tahoma written in word and copied into FrontPage.

This is 10 pt Tahoma written in FrontPage

The 1st one is using a span style w/ 10pt - no html formatting
The 2nd one is using a html font size 2 (default is usually 10 pt)
- until the user changes their browser using View Text Size
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________

| Also as you can see on my web page if I copy the text from other microsoft
| programs they are 'stable' they are the same size in browser view.
| Thanks
| --
| "From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.
|
|
| "Murray" wrote:
|
| > Points are a print metric, designed for pages that have inch/centimeter
| > dimensions, not for screens that are made from pixels.
| >
| > Try using pixels for your unit and see if you achieve more consistency - you
| > should.
| >
| > --
| > Murray
| > ============
| >
| > | > >I understand that design view could differ from browser view. However; my
| > > problem is that it is not consistent. In browser view the fonts from 8pt
| > > and
| > > up appear much bigger then they are in design view. I beleive 8pt looks
| > > like
| > > 12pt. The fonts are in browser view from 7pt and down they look exactly
| > > the
| > > same.
| > >
| > > I appreciate your help as I am struggling with this problem for quite a
| > > while. Since the fonts in 10 pt and even 8 pt look much bigger than what
| > > I
| > > intend to use and 7 pt is a real 7 pt I have a big gap in font sizes.
| > > Here is an example: (I am using Frontpage 2003 & have no knowledge of the
| > > codes)
| > > Thank you
| > >
| > > v:shapes="_x0000_s1083"><![endif]>
| > > 
| > > 
| > > When I am using 8pt fonts or up they look much
| > > bigger in the browser view than in design view. Eg: 8 pt looks
| > > like 12 pt.
| > > 
| > > When I am using 7 pt or smaller they
| > > appear as big as in design view. 
| > > 
| > >
| > > --
| > > "From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.
| >
| >
| >

Vanilla · Oct 29, 2005

Thanks for the info. If I said I understood it that would be a lie.
My interpretation though is: point is not a reliable way to define the size
of a font in FrontPage. According to Murray using pixel instead of point
would solve the problem; however searching all sorts of help options I could
not come up with the answer how could I make that change.
Please message me back how to define fonts in pixel.
Thanks

--
"From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.

Stefan B Rusynko said:
Look at your code view

This is 10 pt Tahoma written in word and copied into FrontPage.

This is 10 pt Tahoma written in FrontPage

The 1st one is using a span style w/ 10pt - no html formatting
The 2nd one is using a html font size 2 (default is usually 10 pt)
- until the user changes their browser using View Text Size
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________

| Also as you can see on my web page if I copy the text from other microsoft
| programs they are 'stable' they are the same size in browser view.
| Thanks
| --
| "From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.
|
|
| "Murray" wrote:
|
| > Points are a print metric, designed for pages that have inch/centimeter
| > dimensions, not for screens that are made from pixels.
| >
| > Try using pixels for your unit and see if you achieve more consistency - you
| > should.
| >
| > --
| > Murray
| > ============
| >
| > | > >I understand that design view could differ from browser view. However; my
| > > problem is that it is not consistent. In browser view the fonts from 8pt
| > > and
| > > up appear much bigger then they are in design view. I beleive 8pt looks
| > > like
| > > 12pt. The fonts are in browser view from 7pt and down they look exactly
| > > the
| > > same.
| > >
| > > I appreciate your help as I am struggling with this problem for quite a
| > > while. Since the fonts in 10 pt and even 8 pt look much bigger than what
| > > I
| > > intend to use and 7 pt is a real 7 pt I have a big gap in font sizes.
| > > Here is an example: (I am using Frontpage 2003 & have no knowledge of the
| > > codes)
| > > Thank you
| > >
| > > v:shapes="_x0000_s1083"><![endif]>
| > > 
| > > 
| > > When I am using 8pt fonts or up they look much
| > > bigger in the browser view than in design view. Eg: 8 pt looks
| > > like 12 pt.
| > > 
| > > When I am using 7 pt or smaller they
| > > appear as big as in design view. 
| > > 
| > >
| > > --
| > > "From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.
| >
| >
| >

Ronx · Oct 30, 2005

To re-use a line from your code:


--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

Vanilla said:
Thanks for the info. If I said I understood it that would be a lie.
My interpretation though is: point is not a reliable way to define the size
of a font in FrontPage. According to Murray using pixel instead of point
would solve the problem; however searching all sorts of help options I could
not come up with the answer how could I make that change.
Please message me back how to define fonts in pixel.
Thanks

--
"From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.

Stefan B Rusynko said:

Look at your code view

This is 10 pt Tahoma written in word and copied into FrontPage.

This is 10 pt Tahoma written in

Click to expand...

FrontPage said:

The 1st one is using a span style w/ 10pt - no html formatting
The 2nd one is using a html font size 2 (default is usually 10 pt)
- until the user changes their browser using View Text Size
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________

| Also as you can see on my web page if I copy the text from other microsoft
| programs they are 'stable' they are the same size in browser view.
| Thanks
| --
| "From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.
|
|
| "Murray" wrote:
|
| > Points are a print metric, designed for pages that have inch/centimeter
| > dimensions, not for screens that are made from pixels.
| >
| > Try using pixels for your unit and see if you achieve more consistency - you
| > should.
| >
| > --
| > Murray
| > ============
| >
| > | > >I understand that design view could differ from browser view. However; my
| > > problem is that it is not consistent. In browser view the fonts from 8pt
| > > and
| > > up appear much bigger then they are in design view. I beleive 8pt looks
| > > like
| > > 12pt. The fonts are in browser view from 7pt and down they look exactly
| > > the
| > > same.
| > >
| > > I appreciate your help as I am struggling with this problem for quite a
| > > while. Since the fonts in 10 pt and even 8 pt look much bigger than what
| > > I
| > > intend to use and 7 pt is a real 7 pt I have a big gap in font sizes.
| > > Here is an example: (I am using Frontpage 2003 & have no knowledge of the
| > > codes)
| > > Thank you
| > >
| > > v:shapes="_x0000_s1083"><![endif]>
| > > 
| > > 
| > > When I am using 8pt fonts or up they look much
| > > bigger in the browser view than in design view. Eg: 8 pt looks
| > > like 12 pt.
| > > 
| > > When I am using 7 pt or smaller they
| > > appear as big as in design view. 
| > > 
| > >
| > > --
| > > "From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.
| >
| >
| >

Click to expand...

Murray · Oct 30, 2005

Use CSS to specify font units other than points. Or edit the code directly
as Ron has shown.

--
Murray
============

Vanilla said:
Thanks for the info. If I said I understood it that would be a lie.
My interpretation though is: point is not a reliable way to define the
size
of a font in FrontPage. According to Murray using pixel instead of point
would solve the problem; however searching all sorts of help options I
could
not come up with the answer how could I make that change.
Please message me back how to define fonts in pixel.
Thanks

--
"From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.

Stefan B Rusynko said:

Look at your code view

This is 10 pt Tahoma written in word and copied into FrontPage.

This is 10 pt Tahoma written in FrontPage

The 1st one is using a span style w/ 10pt - no html formatting
The 2nd one is using a html font size 2 (default is usually 10 pt)
- until the user changes their browser using View Text Size
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________

| Also as you can see on my web page if I copy the text from other
microsoft
| programs they are 'stable' they are the same size in browser view.
| Thanks
| --
| "From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.
|
|
| "Murray" wrote:
|
| > Points are a print metric, designed for pages that have
inch/centimeter
| > dimensions, not for screens that are made from pixels.
| >
| > Try using pixels for your unit and see if you achieve more
consistency - you
| > should.
| >
| > --
| > Murray
| > ============
| >
| > | > >I understand that design view could differ from browser view.
However; my
| > > problem is that it is not consistent. In browser view the fonts
from 8pt
| > > and
| > > up appear much bigger then they are in design view. I beleive 8pt
looks
| > > like
| > > 12pt. The fonts are in browser view from 7pt and down they look
exactly
| > > the
| > > same.
| > >
| > > I appreciate your help as I am struggling with this problem for
quite a
| > > while. Since the fonts in 10 pt and even 8 pt look much bigger
than what
| > > I
| > > intend to use and 7 pt is a real 7 pt I have a big gap in font
sizes.
| > > Here is an example: (I am using Frontpage 2003 & have no knowledge
of the
| > > codes)
| > > Thank you
| > >
| > > v:shapes="_x0000_s1083"><![endif]>
| > > 
| > > 
| > > When I am using 8pt fonts or up they look much
| > > bigger in the browser view than in design view. Eg: 8 pt looks
| > > like 12 pt.
| > > 
| > > When I am using 7 pt or smaller
they
| > > appear as big as in design view. 
| > > 
| > >
| > > --
| > > "From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.
| >
| >
| >

Click to expand...

Vanilla · Oct 31, 2005

Thanks for both of you. I'll try it.
--
"From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.

Murray said:
Use CSS to specify font units other than points. Or edit the code directly
as Ron has shown.

--
Murray
============

Vanilla said:

Thanks for the info. If I said I understood it that would be a lie.
My interpretation though is: point is not a reliable way to define the
size
of a font in FrontPage. According to Murray using pixel instead of point
would solve the problem; however searching all sorts of help options I
could
not come up with the answer how could I make that change.
Please message me back how to define fonts in pixel.
Thanks

--
"From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.

Stefan B Rusynko said:

Look at your code view

This is 10 pt Tahoma written in word and copied into FrontPage.

This is 10 pt Tahoma written in FrontPage

The 1st one is using a span style w/ 10pt - no html formatting
The 2nd one is using a html font size 2 (default is usually 10 pt)
- until the user changes their browser using View Text Size
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________

| Also as you can see on my web page if I copy the text from other
microsoft
| programs they are 'stable' they are the same size in browser view.
| Thanks
| --
| "From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.
|
|
| "Murray" wrote:
|
| > Points are a print metric, designed for pages that have
inch/centimeter
| > dimensions, not for screens that are made from pixels.
| >
| > Try using pixels for your unit and see if you achieve more
consistency - you
| > should.
| >
| > --
| > Murray
| > ============
| >
| > | > >I understand that design view could differ from browser view.
However; my
| > > problem is that it is not consistent. In browser view the fonts
from 8pt
| > > and
| > > up appear much bigger then they are in design view. I beleive 8pt
looks
| > > like
| > > 12pt. The fonts are in browser view from 7pt and down they look
exactly
| > > the
| > > same.
| > >
| > > I appreciate your help as I am struggling with this problem for
quite a
| > > while. Since the fonts in 10 pt and even 8 pt look much bigger
than what
| > > I
| > > intend to use and 7 pt is a real 7 pt I have a big gap in font
sizes.
| > > Here is an example: (I am using Frontpage 2003 & have no knowledge
of the
| > > codes)
| > > Thank you
| > >
| > > v:shapes="_x0000_s1083"><![endif]>
| > > 
| > > 
| > > When I am using 8pt fonts or up they look much
| > > bigger in the browser view than in design view. Eg: 8 pt looks
| > > like 12 pt.
| > > 
| > > When I am using 7 pt or smaller
they
| > > appear as big as in design view. 
| > > 
| > >
| > > --
| > > "From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.
| >
| >
| >

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

Vanilla · Nov 2, 2005

Thanks to you, I was able to change the font sizes in the 'scary' code-view.
--
"From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.

Ronx said:
To re-use a line from your code:


--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

Vanilla said:

Thanks for the info. If I said I understood it that would be a lie.
My interpretation though is: point is not a reliable way to define the size
of a font in FrontPage. According to Murray using pixel instead of point
would solve the problem; however searching all sorts of help options I could
not come up with the answer how could I make that change.
Please message me back how to define fonts in pixel.
Thanks

--
"From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.

Stefan B Rusynko said:

Look at your code view

This is 10 pt Tahoma written in word and copied into FrontPage.

This is 10 pt Tahoma written in

Click to expand...

FrontPage said:

The 1st one is using a span style w/ 10pt - no html formatting
The 2nd one is using a html font size 2 (default is usually 10 pt)
- until the user changes their browser using View Text Size
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________

| Also as you can see on my web page if I copy the text from other microsoft
| programs they are 'stable' they are the same size in browser view.
| Thanks
| --
| "From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.
|
|
| "Murray" wrote:
|
| > Points are a print metric, designed for pages that have inch/centimeter
| > dimensions, not for screens that are made from pixels.
| >
| > Try using pixels for your unit and see if you achieve more consistency - you
| > should.
| >
| > --
| > Murray
| > ============
| >
| > | > >I understand that design view could differ from browser view. However; my
| > > problem is that it is not consistent. In browser view the fonts from 8pt
| > > and
| > > up appear much bigger then they are in design view. I beleive 8pt looks
| > > like
| > > 12pt. The fonts are in browser view from 7pt and down they look exactly
| > > the
| > > same.
| > >
| > > I appreciate your help as I am struggling with this problem for quite a
| > > while. Since the fonts in 10 pt and even 8 pt look much bigger than what
| > > I
| > > intend to use and 7 pt is a real 7 pt I have a big gap in font sizes.
| > > Here is an example: (I am using Frontpage 2003 & have no knowledge of the
| > > codes)
| > > Thank you
| > >
| > > v:shapes="_x0000_s1083"><![endif]>
| > > 
| > > 
| > > When I am using 8pt fonts or up they look much
| > > bigger in the browser view than in design view. Eg: 8 pt looks
| > > like 12 pt.
| > > 
| > > When I am using 7 pt or smaller they
| > > appear as big as in design view. 
| > > 
| > >
| > > --
| > > "From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.
| >
| >
| >

Click to expand...

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Kevin Spencer · Nov 2, 2005

Browser vampires? From ages 8 & up? Wherever they're from?

I'd be scared too!

;-P

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
A watched clock never boils.

Vanilla · Nov 3, 2005

Oh boy!, it is hard to work in the code view. I wonder how you guys able to
manage it! I mean WOW.
--
"From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.

Murray said:
Use CSS to specify font units other than points. Or edit the code directly
as Ron has shown.

--
Murray
============

Vanilla said:

Thanks for the info. If I said I understood it that would be a lie.
My interpretation though is: point is not a reliable way to define the
size
of a font in FrontPage. According to Murray using pixel instead of point
would solve the problem; however searching all sorts of help options I
could
not come up with the answer how could I make that change.
Please message me back how to define fonts in pixel.
Thanks

--
"From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.

Stefan B Rusynko said:

Look at your code view

This is 10 pt Tahoma written in word and copied into FrontPage.

This is 10 pt Tahoma written in FrontPage

The 1st one is using a span style w/ 10pt - no html formatting
The 2nd one is using a html font size 2 (default is usually 10 pt)
- until the user changes their browser using View Text Size
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________

| Also as you can see on my web page if I copy the text from other
microsoft
| programs they are 'stable' they are the same size in browser view.
| Thanks
| --
| "From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.
|
|
| "Murray" wrote:
|
| > Points are a print metric, designed for pages that have
inch/centimeter
| > dimensions, not for screens that are made from pixels.
| >
| > Try using pixels for your unit and see if you achieve more
consistency - you
| > should.
| >
| > --
| > Murray
| > ============
| >
| > | > >I understand that design view could differ from browser view.
However; my
| > > problem is that it is not consistent. In browser view the fonts
from 8pt
| > > and
| > > up appear much bigger then they are in design view. I beleive 8pt
looks
| > > like
| > > 12pt. The fonts are in browser view from 7pt and down they look
exactly
| > > the
| > > same.
| > >
| > > I appreciate your help as I am struggling with this problem for
quite a
| > > while. Since the fonts in 10 pt and even 8 pt look much bigger
than what
| > > I
| > > intend to use and 7 pt is a real 7 pt I have a big gap in font
sizes.
| > > Here is an example: (I am using Frontpage 2003 & have no knowledge
of the
| > > codes)
| > > Thank you
| > >
| > > v:shapes="_x0000_s1083"><![endif]>
| > > 
| > > 
| > > When I am using 8pt fonts or up they look much
| > > bigger in the browser view than in design view. Eg: 8 pt looks
| > > like 12 pt.
| > > 
| > > When I am using 7 pt or smaller
they
| > > appear as big as in design view. 
| > > 
| > >
| > > --
| > > "From one small seed of kindness ... friendship grows. Vanilla.
| >
| >
| >

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