Building a massive website, looking for effects.

[Publisher_rookie]

I was wondering if there is a way to make some of the pages fade in, or out
using publisher? I have tried searching using specific terms to accomplish
this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

 

[Mike Koewler]

You use a Meta tag, but why bother? They only work in IE.

Mike

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

and they are massively annoying



| You use a Meta tag, but why bother? They only work in IE.
|
| Mike
|
| Publisher_rookie wrote:
|
| > I was wondering if there is a way to make some of the pages fade in, or
out
| > using publisher? I have tried searching using specific terms to
accomplish
| > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated,
thanks.

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

like totally dood.


| And in addition K.I.S.S. If you are building a "massive" website, then use
| something other than Publisher. It is fine for small, simple static sites,
| but not a "massive" site with lots of "effects".
|
| DavidF
|
| | > and they are massively annoying
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | You use a Meta tag, but why bother? They only work in IE.
| > |
| > | Mike
| > |
| > | Publisher_rookie wrote:
| > |
| > | > I was wondering if there is a way to make some of the pages fade in,
| > or
| > out
| > | > using publisher? I have tried searching using specific terms to
| > accomplish
| > | > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated,
| > thanks.
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Publisher_rookie]

If I am not mistaken though, most microsoft products like publisher can be
converted to other programs like Front Page, and I do not have experience
writing HTML, I am doing the equivalent of websites for dummies. Any other
advice would be greatly appreciated. And more infor so the advice can be
applicable. I am building an approximately 60 page informational website.
There will be resources for each state, governmental links, literature,
statistics, links to other nonprofits, and the reason I am doing this myself
instead of someone else is because I am attempting to launch my own
nonprofit, and this is the first step. Thanks again.

 

[DavidF]

And in addition K.I.S.S. If you are building a "massive" website, then use
something other than Publisher. It is fine for small, simple static sites,
but not a "massive" site with lots of "effects".

DavidF

 

[JoAnn Paules]

Actually, if you have a Publisher website and want to use FrontPage (which
is no longer sold) instead, it's usually better to start from scratch.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375

 

[Publisher_rookie]

I am just trying to conserve time and energy as I have done much of the work
already, and cannot afford to pay a bundle for someone to design this for me.
I am on my own here, and I am not too familiar with Front Page. Publisher
seems more simplistic, but you get what you pay for as far as quality goes. I
do want something professional looking without paying for it. I suppose if
need be I can send what I have for someone more experienced than I to comment
on.

Actually, if you have a Publisher website and want to use FrontPage (which
is no longer sold) instead, it's usually better to start from scratch.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375

If I am not mistaken though, most microsoft products like publisher can be
converted to other programs like Front Page, and I do not have experience
writing HTML, I am doing the equivalent of websites for dummies. Any other
advice would be greatly appreciated. And more infor so the advice can be
applicable. I am building an approximately 60 page informational website.
There will be resources for each state, governmental links, literature,
statistics, links to other nonprofits, and the reason I am doing this
myself
instead of someone else is because I am attempting to launch my own
nonprofit, and this is the first step. Thanks again.

 

[JoAnn Paules]

We all want professional results for little cost but we also know that it
rarely ever works that way.

If you're serious about making this site, get Expressions Web (FrontPage's
replacement) and learn how to use it. If time is an issue, you may have to
consider paying someone to do it for you. I know this isn't the answer you
wanted and for that I'm sorry but it's an honest response.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375

I am just trying to conserve time and energy as I have done much of the
work
already, and cannot afford to pay a bundle for someone to design this for
me.
I am on my own here, and I am not too familiar with Front Page. Publisher
seems more simplistic, but you get what you pay for as far as quality
goes. I
do want something professional looking without paying for it. I suppose if
need be I can send what I have for someone more experienced than I to
comment
on.

Actually, if you have a Publisher website and want to use FrontPage
(which
is no longer sold) instead, it's usually better to start from scratch.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375

If I am not mistaken though, most microsoft products like publisher can
be
converted to other programs like Front Page, and I do not have
experience
writing HTML, I am doing the equivalent of websites for dummies. Any
other
advice would be greatly appreciated. And more infor so the advice can
be
applicable. I am building an approximately 60 page informational
website.
There will be resources for each state, governmental links, literature,
statistics, links to other nonprofits, and the reason I am doing this
myself
instead of someone else is because I am attempting to launch my own
nonprofit, and this is the first step. Thanks again.

:

And in addition K.I.S.S. If you are building a "massive" website, then
use
something other than Publisher. It is fine for small, simple static
sites,
but not a "massive" site with lots of "effects".

DavidF

message
and they are massively annoying



| You use a Meta tag, but why bother? They only work in IE.
|
| Mike
|
| Publisher_rookie wrote:
|
| > I was wondering if there is a way to make some of the pages fade
in,
or
out
| > using publisher? I have tried searching using specific terms to
accomplish
| > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be
appreciated,
thanks.

 

[Mike Koewler]

Let me suggest two alternatives to MS Programs (Pub, Front Page or
Expressions) - Nvu, which is free or WebPlus, which is $79. WP is a lot
like Pub, in that it is WYSIWYG, has wizards to handle forms, easily
creates links, yada, yada, yada. You can use Master Pages (as many as
you want) to hold recurring graphics or text, automatically generate
Navigation Bars, easily upload your pages and even import sites (success
may vary).

It does not come with a free trial but it does have a money-back
guarantee, plus there is excellent support, both from users and the
programmers themselves, via a forum and a NG; the forum address is
http://www.serif.com/forum/default.asp

I'm personally not a huge fan of massive web sites, but I have built one
of over 100 pages. These days, I tend to break the site up into related
sections.

If you have any questions, you can e-mail me or visit the forum.

(sorry about the ad, but if someone is looking to switch programs, they
might as well know all the options!)

Mike

I am just trying to conserve time and energy as I have done much of the work
already, and cannot afford to pay a bundle for someone to design this for me.
I am on my own here, and I am not too familiar with Front Page. Publisher
seems more simplistic, but you get what you pay for as far as quality goes. I
do want something professional looking without paying for it. I suppose if
need be I can send what I have for someone more experienced than I to comment
on.

:

Actually, if you have a Publisher website and want to use FrontPage (which
is no longer sold) instead, it's usually better to start from scratch.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375

If I am not mistaken though, most microsoft products like publisher can be
converted to other programs like Front Page, and I do not have experience
writing HTML, I am doing the equivalent of websites for dummies. Any other
advice would be greatly appreciated. And more infor so the advice can be
applicable. I am building an approximately 60 page informational website.
There will be resources for each state, governmental links, literature,
statistics, links to other nonprofits, and the reason I am doing this
myself
instead of someone else is because I am attempting to launch my own
nonprofit, and this is the first step. Thanks again.

:


And in addition K.I.S.S. If you are building a "massive" website, then
use
something other than Publisher. It is fine for small, simple static
sites,
but not a "massive" site with lots of "effects".

DavidF


and they are massively annoying



| You use a Meta tag, but why bother? They only work in IE.
|
| Mike
|
| Publisher_rookie wrote:
|
| > I was wondering if there is a way to make some of the pages fade
in,
or
out
| > using publisher? I have tried searching using specific terms to
accomplish
| > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated,
thanks.

 

[Publisher_rookie]

Thanks much. One last thing. I am certain you have worked with this product,
and was curious if the file I have built already can be converted, or
imported to work with this product? Thanks again.

We all want professional results for little cost but we also know that it
rarely ever works that way.

If you're serious about making this site, get Expressions Web (FrontPage's
replacement) and learn how to use it. If time is an issue, you may have to
consider paying someone to do it for you. I know this isn't the answer you
wanted and for that I'm sorry but it's an honest response.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375

I am just trying to conserve time and energy as I have done much of the
work
already, and cannot afford to pay a bundle for someone to design this for
me.
I am on my own here, and I am not too familiar with Front Page. Publisher
seems more simplistic, but you get what you pay for as far as quality
goes. I
do want something professional looking without paying for it. I suppose if
need be I can send what I have for someone more experienced than I to
comment
on.

Actually, if you have a Publisher website and want to use FrontPage
(which
is no longer sold) instead, it's usually better to start from scratch.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


message If I am not mistaken though, most microsoft products like publisher can
be
converted to other programs like Front Page, and I do not have
experience
writing HTML, I am doing the equivalent of websites for dummies. Any
other
advice would be greatly appreciated. And more infor so the advice can
be
applicable. I am building an approximately 60 page informational
website.
There will be resources for each state, governmental links, literature,
statistics, links to other nonprofits, and the reason I am doing this
myself
instead of someone else is because I am attempting to launch my own
nonprofit, and this is the first step. Thanks again.

:

And in addition K.I.S.S. If you are building a "massive" website, then
use
something other than Publisher. It is fine for small, simple static
sites,
but not a "massive" site with lots of "effects".

DavidF

message
and they are massively annoying



| You use a Meta tag, but why bother? They only work in IE.
|
| Mike
|
| Publisher_rookie wrote:
|
| > I was wondering if there is a way to make some of the pages fade
in,
or
out
| > using publisher? I have tried searching using specific terms to
accomplish
| > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be
appreciated,
thanks.

 

[JoAnn Paules]

No converting. Start from scratch. You can try copy and paste but absolutely
no promises about what that will yield.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375

Thanks much. One last thing. I am certain you have worked with this
product,
and was curious if the file I have built already can be converted, or
imported to work with this product? Thanks again.

We all want professional results for little cost but we also know that it
rarely ever works that way.

If you're serious about making this site, get Expressions Web
(FrontPage's
replacement) and learn how to use it. If time is an issue, you may have
to
consider paying someone to do it for you. I know this isn't the answer
you
wanted and for that I'm sorry but it's an honest response.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375

I am just trying to conserve time and energy as I have done much of the
work
already, and cannot afford to pay a bundle for someone to design this
for
me.
I am on my own here, and I am not too familiar with Front Page.
Publisher
seems more simplistic, but you get what you pay for as far as quality
goes. I
do want something professional looking without paying for it. I suppose
if
need be I can send what I have for someone more experienced than I to
comment
on.

:

Actually, if you have a Publisher website and want to use FrontPage
(which
is no longer sold) instead, it's usually better to start from scratch.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


in
message If I am not mistaken though, most microsoft products like publisher
can
be
converted to other programs like Front Page, and I do not have
experience
writing HTML, I am doing the equivalent of websites for dummies. Any
other
advice would be greatly appreciated. And more infor so the advice
can
be
applicable. I am building an approximately 60 page informational
website.
There will be resources for each state, governmental links,
literature,
statistics, links to other nonprofits, and the reason I am doing
this
myself
instead of someone else is because I am attempting to launch my own
nonprofit, and this is the first step. Thanks again.

:

And in addition K.I.S.S. If you are building a "massive" website,
then
use
something other than Publisher. It is fine for small, simple static
sites,
but not a "massive" site with lots of "effects".

DavidF

message
and they are massively annoying



| You use a Meta tag, but why bother? They only work in IE.
|
| Mike
|
| Publisher_rookie wrote:
|
| > I was wondering if there is a way to make some of the pages
fade
in,
or
out
| > using publisher? I have tried searching using specific terms
to
accomplish
| > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be
appreciated,
thanks.

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

Publisher creates goofy html...it's not convertable; you'll need to start
over.


message | Thanks much. One last thing. I am certain you have worked with this
product,
| and was curious if the file I have built already can be converted, or
| imported to work with this product? Thanks again.
|
| "JoAnn Paules" wrote:
|
| > We all want professional results for little cost but we also know that
it
| > rarely ever works that way.
| >
| > If you're serious about making this site, get Expressions Web
(FrontPage's
| > replacement) and learn how to use it. If time is an issue, you may have
to
| > consider paying someone to do it for you. I know this isn't the answer
you
| > wanted and for that I'm sorry but it's an honest response.
| >
| > --
| > JoAnn Paules
| > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| >
| > ~~~~~
| > How to ask a question
| > http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375
| >
| >
| > message | > >I am just trying to conserve time and energy as I have done much of the
| > >work
| > > already, and cannot afford to pay a bundle for someone to design this
for
| > > me.
| > > I am on my own here, and I am not too familiar with Front Page.
Publisher
| > > seems more simplistic, but you get what you pay for as far as quality
| > > goes. I
| > > do want something professional looking without paying for it. I
suppose if
| > > need be I can send what I have for someone more experienced than I to
| > > comment
| > > on.
| > >
| > > "JoAnn Paules" wrote:
| > >
| > >> Actually, if you have a Publisher website and want to use FrontPage
| > >> (which
| > >> is no longer sold) instead, it's usually better to start from
scratch.
| > >>
| > >> --
| > >> JoAnn Paules
| > >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| > >>
| > >> ~~~~~
| > >> How to ask a question
| > >> http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375
| > >>
| > >>
in
| > >> message | > >> > If I am not mistaken though, most microsoft products like publisher
can
| > >> > be
| > >> > converted to other programs like Front Page, and I do not have
| > >> > experience
| > >> > writing HTML, I am doing the equivalent of websites for dummies.
Any
| > >> > other
| > >> > advice would be greatly appreciated. And more infor so the advice
can
| > >> > be
| > >> > applicable. I am building an approximately 60 page informational
| > >> > website.
| > >> > There will be resources for each state, governmental links,
literature,
| > >> > statistics, links to other nonprofits, and the reason I am doing
this
| > >> > myself
| > >> > instead of someone else is because I am attempting to launch my own
| > >> > nonprofit, and this is the first step. Thanks again.
| > >> >
| > >> > "DavidF" wrote:
| > >> >
| > >> >> And in addition K.I.S.S. If you are building a "massive" website,
then
| > >> >> use
| > >> >> something other than Publisher. It is fine for small, simple
static
| > >> >> sites,
| > >> >> but not a "massive" site with lots of "effects".
| > >> >>
| > >> >> DavidF
| > >> >>
| > >> >> message
| > >> >> | > >> >> > and they are massively annoying
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > | > >> >> > | You use a Meta tag, but why bother? They only work in IE.
| > >> >> > |
| > >> >> > | Mike
| > >> >> > |
| > >> >> > | Publisher_rookie wrote:
| > >> >> > |
| > >> >> > | > I was wondering if there is a way to make some of the pages
fade
| > >> >> > in,
| > >> >> > or
| > >> >> > out
| > >> >> > | > using publisher? I have tried searching using specific terms
to
| > >> >> > accomplish
| > >> >> > | > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be
| > >> >> > appreciated,
| > >> >> > thanks.
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> >
| > >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| >
| >
| >

 

[Mike Koewler]

David,

The only problem I've seen with Nvu is that it's not like a DTP program
where one can place an object anyplace on the page and move it wherever
one wants. I admit, I haven't used it that much, but it reminds me a lot
of MS Word, albeit on steroids and with more bells and whistles. Good
clean code, adjusts to the browser size, wizards to help with common
tasks. If one is use to using Word to layout designs, Nvu should be
fairly easy to pick up. But if one is use to Pub, it will take a while
to become efficient.

Mike

 

[DavidF]

Seems intuitive that you should be able to import a Publisher website into
FrontPage another MSFT product, but the code is way too different. If you do
choose to rebuild however, you can copy and paste many of your design
elements into the other program, and at least now you have an idea of how
you would like to lay it out...that will save you time.

I would tend to agree with Mike about looking at
http://www.nvu.com/index.php , especially if you are on a budget. Yes, you
will have to rebuild, but you won't have to face outgrowing the program
capability. Web Expression replaces FrontPage this year, but it is
expensive, and I personally never buy the first year with a new product...to
many bugs.

As you stated that your site is mostly informational, you could use
Publisher, but the larger the site the harder it is to manage with
Publisher. As to "effects"...they should probably be avoided initially
anyway. There is always the temptation to add too many bells and whistles
and fluff...just cuz you can. Think about Google....can't get much simpler
than that home page.

If you want to pursue Publisher, you should seriously think about building
your site with multiple Publisher files. Break your site up and it will be
easier to manage. Read through the posts in this newsgroup, or at least scan
them and you will get a sense of what you can...and cannot do in Publisher.
Also here are more references:

Using Publisher for web sites:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/pages/80566.aspx

Establish a Web presence with Publisher
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA010967061033.aspx?pid=CH010938711033

Prepare, publish, and maintain your Publisher Web site:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011053521033.aspx

Publisher web publication forms 101:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/07/80564.aspx

Uploading articles:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/category/1921.aspx

Building a web site with multiple Publisher web publication files:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/16/81264.aspx
(Personally, I find it easier to create subfolders to hold the HTML output
from each Publisher file. And don't get me wrong...I use Publisher to
produce sites larger than what you are proposing, but I would not recommend
it if I was just starting.)

And finally, perhaps take a step back and think through what you want to do,
and what your goals are. Too many people jump into web building without
adequate planning, and end up with a lot of frustration and extra expense
and time. Here is a pretty good general article that might be one of the
first you should read. Your complete guide to web design:
http://www.webdesignfromscratch.com/

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

Hi Mike,

I imagine you are correct that it might be easier to transition from
Publisher to WebPlus. I can't say which would be easier or the better choice
for the OP, but I certainly like the price of Nvu ;-)

DavidF

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

WebPlus 6 is free.


| Hi Mike,
|
| I imagine you are correct that it might be easier to transition from
| Publisher to WebPlus. I can't say which would be easier or the better
choice
| for the OP, but I certainly like the price of Nvu ;-)
|
| DavidF
|
| | > David,
| >
| > The only problem I've seen with Nvu is that it's not like a DTP program
| > where one can place an object anyplace on the page and move it wherever
| > one wants. I admit, I haven't used it that much, but it reminds me a lot
| > of MS Word, albeit on steroids and with more bells and whistles. Good
| > clean code, adjusts to the browser size, wizards to help with common
| > tasks. If one is use to using Word to layout designs, Nvu should be
fairly
| > easy to pick up. But if one is use to Pub, it will take a while to
become
| > efficient.
| >
| > Mike
| >
| > DavidF wrote:
| >> Seems intuitive that you should be able to import a Publisher website
| >> into FrontPage another MSFT product, but the code is way too different.
| >> If you do choose to rebuild however, you can copy and paste many of
your
| >> design elements into the other program, and at least now you have an
idea
| >> of how you would like to lay it out...that will save you time.
| >>
| >> I would tend to agree with Mike about looking at
| >> http://www.nvu.com/index.php , especially if you are on a budget. Yes,
| >> you will have to rebuild, but you won't have to face outgrowing the
| >> program capability. Web Expression replaces FrontPage this year, but it
| >> is expensive, and I personally never buy the first year with a new
| >> product...to many bugs.
| >>
| >> As you stated that your site is mostly informational, you could use
| >> Publisher, but the larger the site the harder it is to manage with
| >> Publisher. As to "effects"...they should probably be avoided initially
| >> anyway. There is always the temptation to add too many bells and
whistles
| >> and fluff...just cuz you can. Think about Google....can't get much
| >> simpler than that home page.
| >>
| >> If you want to pursue Publisher, you should seriously think about
| >> building your site with multiple Publisher files. Break your site up
and
| >> it will be easier to manage. Read through the posts in this newsgroup,
or
| >> at least scan them and you will get a sense of what you can...and
cannot
| >> do in Publisher. Also here are more references:
| >>
| >> Using Publisher for web sites:
| >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/pages/80566.aspx
| >>
| >> Establish a Web presence with Publisher
| >>
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA010967061033.aspx?pid=CH010938711033
| >>
| >> Prepare, publish, and maintain your Publisher Web site:
| >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011053521033.aspx
| >>
| >> Publisher web publication forms 101:
| >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/07/80564.aspx
| >>
| >> Uploading articles:
| >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/category/1921.aspx
| >>
| >> Building a web site with multiple Publisher web publication files:
| >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/16/81264.aspx
| >> (Personally, I find it easier to create subfolders to hold the HTML
| >> output from each Publisher file. And don't get me wrong...I use
Publisher
| >> to produce sites larger than what you are proposing, but I would not
| >> recommend it if I was just starting.)
| >>
| >> And finally, perhaps take a step back and think through what you want
to
| >> do, and what your goals are. Too many people jump into web building
| >> without adequate planning, and end up with a lot of frustration and
extra
| >> expense and time. Here is a pretty good general article that might be
one
| >> of the first you should read. Your complete guide to web design:
| >> http://www.webdesignfromscratch.com/
| >>
| >> DavidF
| >>
| >> message | >>
| >>>If I am not mistaken though, most microsoft products like publisher can
| >>>be
| >>>converted to other programs like Front Page, and I do not have
experience
| >>>writing HTML, I am doing the equivalent of websites for dummies. Any
| >>>other
| >>>advice would be greatly appreciated. And more infor so the advice can
be
| >>>applicable. I am building an approximately 60 page informational
website.
| >>>There will be resources for each state, governmental links, literature,
| >>>statistics, links to other nonprofits, and the reason I am doing this
| >>>myself
| >>>instead of someone else is because I am attempting to launch my own
| >>>nonprofit, and this is the first step. Thanks again.
| >>>
| >>>"DavidF" wrote:
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>>And in addition K.I.S.S. If you are building a "massive" website, then
| >>>>use
| >>>>something other than Publisher. It is fine for small, simple static
| >>>>sites,
| >>>>but not a "massive" site with lots of "effects".
| >>>>
| >>>>DavidF
| >>>>
| >>>>message
| >>>>| >>>>
| >>>>>and they are massively annoying
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>| >>>>>| You use a Meta tag, but why bother? They only work in IE.
| >>>>>|
| >>>>>| Mike
| >>>>>|
| >>>>>| Publisher_rookie wrote:
| >>>>>|
| >>>>>| > I was wondering if there is a way to make some of the pages fade
| >>>>>in,
| >>>>>or
| >>>>>out
| >>>>>| > using publisher? I have tried searching using specific terms to
| >>>>>accomplish
| >>>>>| > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be
appreciated,
| >>>>>thanks.
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>
|

 

[Mike Koewler]

Rob,

And I think that's about what it is worth. Well, except that if one
downloads and registers it, they can qualify for an upgrade price. IIRC,
it was basically the same program as PP7 or 8 with a couple of web
features thrown in.

Mike

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

I've never really used it. I've used their other free stuff though and it's
decent.




| Rob,
|
| And I think that's about what it is worth. Well, except that if one
| downloads and registers it, they can qualify for an upgrade price. IIRC,
| it was basically the same program as PP7 or 8 with a couple of web
| features thrown in.
|
| Mike
|
| Rob Giordano (Crash) wrote:
|
| > WebPlus 6 is free.
| >
| >
| > | > | Hi Mike,
| > |
| > | I imagine you are correct that it might be easier to transition from
| > | Publisher to WebPlus. I can't say which would be easier or the better
| > choice
| > | for the OP, but I certainly like the price of Nvu ;-)
| > |
| > | DavidF
| > |
| > | | > | > David,
| > | >
| > | > The only problem I've seen with Nvu is that it's not like a DTP
program
| > | > where one can place an object anyplace on the page and move it
wherever
| > | > one wants. I admit, I haven't used it that much, but it reminds me a
lot
| > | > of MS Word, albeit on steroids and with more bells and whistles.
Good
| > | > clean code, adjusts to the browser size, wizards to help with common
| > | > tasks. If one is use to using Word to layout designs, Nvu should be
| > fairly
| > | > easy to pick up. But if one is use to Pub, it will take a while to
| > become
| > | > efficient.
| > | >
| > | > Mike
| > | >
| > | > DavidF wrote:
| > | >> Seems intuitive that you should be able to import a Publisher
website
| > | >> into FrontPage another MSFT product, but the code is way too
different.
| > | >> If you do choose to rebuild however, you can copy and paste many of
| > your
| > | >> design elements into the other program, and at least now you have
an
| > idea
| > | >> of how you would like to lay it out...that will save you time.
| > | >>
| > | >> I would tend to agree with Mike about looking at
| > | >> http://www.nvu.com/index.php , especially if you are on a budget.
Yes,
| > | >> you will have to rebuild, but you won't have to face outgrowing the
| > | >> program capability. Web Expression replaces FrontPage this year,
but it
| > | >> is expensive, and I personally never buy the first year with a new
| > | >> product...to many bugs.
| > | >>
| > | >> As you stated that your site is mostly informational, you could use
| > | >> Publisher, but the larger the site the harder it is to manage with
| > | >> Publisher. As to "effects"...they should probably be avoided
initially
| > | >> anyway. There is always the temptation to add too many bells and
| > whistles
| > | >> and fluff...just cuz you can. Think about Google....can't get much
| > | >> simpler than that home page.
| > | >>
| > | >> If you want to pursue Publisher, you should seriously think about
| > | >> building your site with multiple Publisher files. Break your site
up
| > and
| > | >> it will be easier to manage. Read through the posts in this
newsgroup,
| > or
| > | >> at least scan them and you will get a sense of what you can...and
| > cannot
| > | >> do in Publisher. Also here are more references:
| > | >>
| > | >> Using Publisher for web sites:
| > | >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/pages/80566.aspx
| > | >>
| > | >> Establish a Web presence with Publisher
| > | >>
| >
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA010967061033.aspx?pid=CH010938711033
| > | >>
| > | >> Prepare, publish, and maintain your Publisher Web site:
| > | >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011053521033.aspx
| > | >>
| > | >> Publisher web publication forms 101:
| > | >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/07/80564.aspx
| > | >>
| > | >> Uploading articles:
| > | >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/category/1921.aspx
| > | >>
| > | >> Building a web site with multiple Publisher web publication files:
| > | >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/16/81264.aspx
| > | >> (Personally, I find it easier to create subfolders to hold the HTML
| > | >> output from each Publisher file. And don't get me wrong...I use
| > Publisher
| > | >> to produce sites larger than what you are proposing, but I would
not
| > | >> recommend it if I was just starting.)
| > | >>
| > | >> And finally, perhaps take a step back and think through what you
want
| > to
| > | >> do, and what your goals are. Too many people jump into web building
| > | >> without adequate planning, and end up with a lot of frustration and
| > extra
| > | >> expense and time. Here is a pretty good general article that might
be
| > one
| > | >> of the first you should read. Your complete guide to web design:
| > | >> http://www.webdesignfromscratch.com/
| > | >>
| > | >> DavidF
| > | >>
| > | >> "Publisher_rookie" <[email protected]>
wrote in
| > | >> message | > | >>
| > | >>>If I am not mistaken though, most microsoft products like publisher
can
| > | >>>be
| > | >>>converted to other programs like Front Page, and I do not have
| > experience
| > | >>>writing HTML, I am doing the equivalent of websites for dummies.
Any
| > | >>>other
| > | >>>advice would be greatly appreciated. And more infor so the advice
can
| > be
| > | >>>applicable. I am building an approximately 60 page informational
| > website.
| > | >>>There will be resources for each state, governmental links,
literature,
| > | >>>statistics, links to other nonprofits, and the reason I am doing
this
| > | >>>myself
| > | >>>instead of someone else is because I am attempting to launch my own
| > | >>>nonprofit, and this is the first step. Thanks again.
| > | >>>
| > | >>>"DavidF" wrote:
| > | >>>
| > | >>>
| > | >>>>And in addition K.I.S.S. If you are building a "massive" website,
then
| > | >>>>use
| > | >>>>something other than Publisher. It is fine for small, simple
static
| > | >>>>sites,
| > | >>>>but not a "massive" site with lots of "effects".
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>>DavidF
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>>message
| > | >>>>| > | >>>>
| > | >>>>>and they are massively annoying
| > | >>>>>
| > | >>>>>
| > | >>>>>
| > | >>>>>| > | >>>>>| You use a Meta tag, but why bother? They only work in IE.
| > | >>>>>|
| > | >>>>>| Mike
| > | >>>>>|
| > | >>>>>| Publisher_rookie wrote:
| > | >>>>>|
| > | >>>>>| > I was wondering if there is a way to make some of the pages
fade
| > | >>>>>in,
| > | >>>>>or
| > | >>>>>out
| > | >>>>>| > using publisher? I have tried searching using specific terms
to
| > | >>>>>accomplish
| > | >>>>>| > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be
| > appreciated,
| > | >>>>>thanks.
| > | >>>>>
| > | >>>>>
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>>
| > | >>
| > |
| >
| >