Bullet Points - shadow removal

[michaelh2737]

Version: 2008 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) When setting up bullet points, in presentation mode the content "pre-exists" on the slide in the form of a "gray or shadow" look, indicating where the point will be when slide advance is implemented. How does one turn off this option. I operate PPT for a large church congregation and the Pastors points are visible before the slide is advanced!

Thank you

 

[CyberTaz]

I'm afraid it isn't at all clear to me what you'e asking.

There are 3 primary views offered in PPT:

Normal View
Slide Sorter View
Slide Show View

Which of those you mean by "presentation mode" is uncertain. What do you
mean by "content "pre-exists""? What is this "content", exactly? Are you
creating your own presentation, modifying an existing presentation, creating
a new presentation based on a template...? Also, your last sentence suggests
that the content of one slide is visible before that slide is displayed,
which seems virtually impossible.

If in Normal View, you will see a gray bullet only if the paragraph has no
content. Once you type the content the bullet will have the color applied to
it based on the color scheme you're using. The gray bullets you see in
Normal View do not show in Slide Show View.

If you can provide a more accurate & detailed description of the situation
I'm sure someone will be able to help you. Just keep in mind that we cannot
see your display -- we can only visualize based on the picture you paint for
us.

 

[michaelh2737]

The Pastor of our church creates/builds his slides. He has bullet points that unfold one line at a time. In presenter/presentation mode, before advancing the slide (making the bullet point unfold) the bulloet point is already there is a grayed out view, but this view is seen by all on the projection screens. In previous versions ofr PPT that we have used, there was simply a completely blank slide, until advancing the bullet point.

I am using a Mac version of PPT of which I am not familiar (Mac I mean). I have searched help and tried various formatting options and cannot turn off the above described issue.

It is as if the program is "showing" where the bullet point will end up when I advance it, like a placeholder, but the placeholder shows "all" of the points and they can be seen before being advanced.

Just curious, I am working around it by using Keynote (I dislike as does the Pastor), would like to stay with PPT.

Thanks for any and all help, ideas or suggestions.

Michael

 

[CyberTaz]

Unfortunately I still can't tell from the description what has actually been
done, but it sounds like Custom Animation has been used. The behavior
suggests that an EMPHASIS effect may have been applied rather than an
ENTRANCE effect, so that's the first thing I'd suggest you check. Since
there is no animation effect by the name of "unfold" I can't point you any
more specifically than to the Custom Animation pane in the Formatting
Palette. See if changing the effect there corrects the problem.

You can find more in PPT Help on the subject: Animate text and objects

as well as the topic: Edit an animation

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

The Pastor of our church creates/builds his slides. He has bullet
points that unfold one line at a time. In presenter/presentation
mode, before advancing the slide (making the bullet point unfold)
the bulloet point is already there is a grayed out view, but this
view is seen by all on the projection screens. In previous versions
ofr PPT that we have used, there was simply a completely blank
slide, until advancing the bullet point.

I am using a Mac version of PPT of which I am not familiar (Mac I
mean). I have searched help and tried various formatting options and
cannot turn off the above described issue.

It is as if the program is "showing" where the bullet point will end
up when I advance it, like a placeholder, but the placeholder shows
"all" of the points and they can be seen before being advanced.

Just curious, I am working around it by using Keynote (I dislike as
does the Pastor), would like to stay with PPT.

Thanks for any and all help, ideas or suggestions.

There's a bug in some PPT versions that causes text shadows to appear
before the actual text when the text is animated. Sounds like exactly
what you're seeing, no?

Text can be shadowed in one of two ways and I forget which causes this.
I think perhaps it's the shape shadow that causes the problem.

Can one of you Mac fellas explain how to find the two text shadowing
options in 2008?

 

[Jim Gordon Mac MVP]

There's a bug in some PPT versions that causes text shadows to appear
before the actual text when the text is animated. Sounds like exactly
what you're seeing, no?

Text can be shadowed in one of two ways and I forget which causes this.
I think perhaps it's the shape shadow that causes the problem.

Can one of you Mac fellas explain how to find the two text shadowing
options in 2008?

Is there a possibility of posting to a web site a copy of the
presentation that has just one or two of the misbehaving slides?

-Jim

 

[michaelh2737]

YES!!!!!!!!! That is exactly what is happening, now that you wrote it that way... it is as is the slide openbs with the "shadow" already in place, before I animate the bullet point (and text)!

Thanks... now - to figure out how to fix it :-(

Michael

 

[CyberTaz]

OK, now we know what we're dealing with

A Shadow effect has been applied to the *placeholder* itself rather than to
the text in the placeholder. To remove it, select the placeholder [no
flashing insertion point] then open the Shadow settings on the Formatting
Palette of the Toolbox & clear the check for Shadow.

If you want to retain the shadow effect, select the text in the placeholder
(click in it then Command+A to select all) & apply Shadow formatting to it
directly using one of the font formatting tools (including the same Shadow
check you just removed). That will apply the shadow to the text rather than
the placeholder.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

YES!!!!!!!!! That is exactly what is happening, now that you wrote
it that way... it is as is the slide openbs with the "shadow"
already in place, before I animate the bullet point (and text)!

Thanks... now - to figure out how to fix it :-(

This seems to work here (in PPT 2007 ... I don't have Mac 2008):

Select the text shape
Remove the shape shadow from it by assigning it no shadow.

Then select the *text* in the shape.
Assign the text a text shadow.

Now you have shadowed text that works as expected.

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Is there a possibility of posting to a web site a copy of the
presentation that has just one or two of the misbehaving slides?

If it's what I think it is, this'll do it.

http://www.rdpslides.com/temp/textshadows.ppt

I created it in PPT 2003. Played back in 2007, the shadow on animated text
appears before the text itself (if the shadow is applied using the shape
shadow tool rather than as a text attribute in the font dialog box).

Applying a shadow in 2007 doesn't provoke the bug.

 

[Jim Gordon Mac MVP]

If it's what I think it is, this'll do it.

http://www.rdpslides.com/temp/textshadows.ppt

I created it in PPT 2003. Played back in 2007, the shadow on animated text
appears before the text itself (if the shadow is applied using the shape
shadow tool rather than as a text attribute in the font dialog box).

Applying a shadow in 2007 doesn't provoke the bug.

Hi,

Then Bob's analysis and solution is correct.

There is a difference in the way PPT 2004 and PPT 2008 handles the
shadow on the text box. The pastor should report this behavior change to
Microsoft using Help > Send Feedback describing why the change in
behavior is causing a problem.

-Jim