Can I lock inking to picture? (relational position)

[liups]

Hi, I make some marks using inking on a imported picture, but when I
move the pictures later, the inking marks are not moving with the
picture and this makes the marks I made useless, I cannot find an
option to lock the relational position of a inking to a picture, can
someone help me? thank you very much.

 

[Raphael Malikian]

I have had similar problems in the past

The best thing i can recommend is that you try the following:

1. Open onenote and ensure that the imported inked-photo is in view

2. Open a onenote sidenote, this will launch an additional onenote window.

3. From the new 'sidenote' window select to insert a screen clipping, this
will minimise the 'sidenote' window and allow you select your inked-picture
in the 'original' onenote window.

This will create a clipping into the sidenote, which you can then insert
back into the original window via copy/paste. It will also allow you to
resize your inked-image without having to separately scale the ink AND the
image.

This will work in Onenote 2003 and ON 2007, but perhaps ON 2007 has better
ink functionality thank ON 2003 and there may be an easier workaround, as
even in ON 2003 when adding extra writing space only some ink is shifted down
the page.

Hope this helps.

Raphael Malikian

 

[Rainald Taesler]

liups in (e-mail address removed) shared
these words of wisdom:

Hi, I make some marks using inking on a imported picture, but when I
move the pictures later, the inking marks are not moving with the
picture and this makes the marks I made useless, I cannot find an
option to lock the relational position of a inking to a picture, can
someone help me?

No, no one can help you in so far (only with workarounds).
Only the developers could. But we will have no chance to see ON
improved in this point until some future version :-( :-(

ON 2007 for sure is a fantastic piece of software with some unmatched
features.
It has quite some shortcomings, however, even in most important areas
and so it is not yet what it could be.

The lack of the needed container/frame-handling IMO is one of the
areas where additional functionality would be needed. I think that the
feature of combining frames by grouping selected items - which has
been a central instrument not only in many (if not most) graphics
program but text production applications (like the good old AmiPro or
FrameMaker) for a very long time - is a thing most urgently needed for
making the mixture of text and images as well as images and
annotations usable in a productive way.
What you are complaining about is exactly the same with any piece of
text and annotations - not even highlighting does stick with the
respective text!

It might be that we could see the needed functionality in some ON 15
or so. Perhaps something parallel to the development of WinWord. One
could not call version 1.0 to be usable. WinWord 2.0 brought a lot of
improvement but still was far behind other wordprocessors (like AmiPro
f.e.). It took the developres some time until the were ready to
introduce frames and the possibility to combine those with grouping.

So for now and the foreseeable future we have to live without and use
workarounds.
Raphael has already shown a way to work around the gap in ON 2007.

Another way would be to use Copy+Paste with the intermediary of a
graphics program:
a) Mark the wanted parts (using the lasso tool or "select all" etc.);
b) copy the selection to the clipboard;
c) open a graphics application (be it PhotoShop or PaintShop or Office
Picture Publisher) and paste from the clipboard;
d) copy to the clipboard again;
e) insert into ON.

With some trick this even works with my favourite tool for doing all
kinds of simple things with graphics, the fantastic freeware
"IrfanView"
www.irfanview.com

It needs this intermediary for combining the individual objects into
one image. Copying to the clipboard and just re-inserting into ON will
produce individual objects again.
This can be of help if one just wants to move around several objects
together (f.e. an image and annotations, a text container and
annotations) and it's the preferable method if one wants to move text
+ annotations and wants the result to still be editable text.

As said: ON is a really great instrument. It's not yet what it could
be.
We have to take it "as is", work around a number of serious mistakes
in the concept and hope for the future.

Rainald