Can I run ON from an external drive without it being installed on

[Ang130]

Can I run ON from an external drive without it being installed on a local
machine?

 

[minimus]

Can I run ON from an external drive without it being installed on a local
machine?

With Ceedo software

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Can I run ON from an external drive without it being installed on a
local machine?

YES, if run under Ceedo with the Argo installer.[1]

In theory it should also work with a USB stick.
It would have a superfast stick, main point is the write speed.
With my "normal" speed sticks it was just to slow.

It works really fine on my 1.8" HDD (size of a cigarette pack and half
as thick, perfectly fitting in a shirt pocket <g>).

Only drawback in so far: The "Send to OneNote"-printer is not available
when ON is not installed on the computer.

It dies also make sense to work with an external drive and Ceedo if one
uses ON on more than one computer, f.e. at home and at work. This way
"privacy" is guaranteed and no traces left behind as the cache is
sitting on the external disk.

Note: The install of ON should be done with a computer running under XP.

Rainald
[1] http://www.ceedo.com/products/ceedo-personal.html

 

[Bob Perry]

If you are going to do that you must be running Office (OneNote) Enterprise
if ON is not installed on the host machine. Microsoft checks to see that On
is running on the machine on which it was originally installed. In this case
it would see a different host machine and not run.

The Enterprise edition is the only one that does not make that check.

If a legitimate copy of ON is installedon the new (second) host you would be
OK.

Bob

Can I run ON from an external drive without it being installed on a
local machine?

YES, if run under Ceedo with the Argo installer.[1]

In theory it should also work with a USB stick.
It would have a superfast stick, main point is the write speed.
With my "normal" speed sticks it was just to slow.

It works really fine on my 1.8" HDD (size of a cigarette pack and half
as thick, perfectly fitting in a shirt pocket <g>).

Only drawback in so far: The "Send to OneNote"-printer is not available
when ON is not installed on the computer.

It dies also make sense to work with an external drive and Ceedo if one
uses ON on more than one computer, f.e. at home and at work. This way
"privacy" is guaranteed and no traces left behind as the cache is
sitting on the external disk.

Note: The install of ON should be done with a computer running under XP.

Rainald
[1] http://www.ceedo.com/products/ceedo-personal.html






.

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Ang130 wrote:

Can I run ON from an external drive without it being installed on a
local machine?

YES, if run under Ceedo with the Argo installer.[1]

If you are going to do that you must be running Office (OneNote)
Enterprise if ON is not installed on the host machine.

I have to disagree (as to my experience).

I have tested things on my test machine under XP, Vista and Win7 (triple
boot).
Only on the Win7 device Office 2007 is installed. I can not say which
version. I assume that it is the Pro version. ON is not on the Office
CD, I got it stand-alone.
Under Vista and XP nothing from Office is installed.
ON under Ceedo runs fine under all three.

Microsoft checks to see that On is running on the machine on
which it was originally installed.

What do you mean by "Microsoft" in so far?
Does *ON* started from the HDD under Ceedo perform such a check?
What else might perform such check?

In this case it would see a different host machine and not run.

I installed ON under XP. I can not remember, however, whether anything
from Office was installed in the XP device at that time. I think that I
re-installed XP in between (restored from an image).

The Enterprise edition is the only one that does not make that check.

How can I determine which version of Office I have?

If a legitimate copy of ON is installed on the new (second) host you
would be OK.

This would explain the situation under Vista.
But not for XP and Win7.

Rainald

 

[Bob Perry]

This may be a double post -- first time didn't seem to post correctly.

Here is what I was trying to say. Keith, moderator of the CEEDO forum says
it better.

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Hi, Bob.

Consumer versions of MS Office use hardware IDs from the host PC for
activation. When you launch Office, it will scan the host PC for the hardware
IDs that it used for activation, and if they are not found, it will
deactivate.

With the Enterprise version of Office, there is no activation required, and
therefore, no hardware IDs involved. This is why an Enterprise version of
Office is portable in Ceedo.

Ang130 wrote:
Can I run ON from an external drive without it being installed on a
local machine?

YES, if run under Ceedo with the Argo installer.[1]

If you are going to do that you must be running Office (OneNote)
Enterprise if ON is not installed on the host machine.

I have to disagree (as to my experience).

I have tested things on my test machine under XP, Vista and Win7 (triple
boot).
Only on the Win7 device Office 2007 is installed. I can not say which
version. I assume that it is the Pro version. ON is not on the Office
CD, I got it stand-alone.
Under Vista and XP nothing from Office is installed.
ON under Ceedo runs fine under all three.

Microsoft checks to see that On is running on the machine on
which it was originally installed.

What do you mean by "Microsoft" in so far?
Does *ON* started from the HDD under Ceedo perform such a check?
What else might perform such check?

In this case it would see a different host machine and not run.

I installed ON under XP. I can not remember, however, whether anything
from Office was installed in the XP device at that time. I think that I
re-installed XP in between (restored from an image).

The Enterprise edition is the only one that does not make that check.

How can I determine which version of Office I have?

If a legitimate copy of ON is installed on the new (second) host you
would be OK.

This would explain the situation under Vista.
But not for XP and Win7.

Rainald

.

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Thank you so much for your repy, Bob!
Most interesting reply from Ceedo.

I can not see what Keith Keith means by "Consumer versions" of Office.

I can not say for any other Office applications but OneNote. I did not
install any other Office .
As said before (quoted below) my ON wprks pretty well on all compoters I
have attched it to.
And it's no "Enterprise" thing. I just have a stand-alone version
ibstalled frim a CD with bothing but ON on it.

Did you yourself have experienced different results?

Rainald
P.S. I think that I'll contact Ceedo one of these days

Here is what I was trying to say. Keith, moderator of the CEEDO
forum says it better.

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Hi, Bob.

Consumer versions of MS Office use hardware IDs from the host PC for
activation. When you launch Office, it will scan the host PC for the
hardware IDs that it used for activation, and if they are not found,
it will deactivate.

With the Enterprise version of Office, there is no activation
required, and therefore, no hardware IDs involved. This is why an
Enterprise version of Office is portable in Ceedo.

:
Ang130 wrote:

Can I run ON from an external drive without it being installed on
a local machine?

YES, if run under Ceedo with the Argo installer.[1]

If you are going to do that you must be running Office (OneNote)
Enterprise if ON is not installed on the host machine.

I have to disagree (as to my experience).

I have tested things on my test machine under XP, Vista and Win7
(triple boot).
Only on the Win7 device Office 2007 is installed. I can not say which
version. I assume that it is the Pro version. ON is not on the Office
CD, I got it stand-alone.
Under Vista and XP nothing from Office is installed.
ON under Ceedo runs fine under all three.

Microsoft checks to see that On is running on the machine on
which it was originally installed.

What do you mean by "Microsoft" in so far?
Does *ON* started from the HDD under Ceedo perform such a check?
What else might perform such check?

In this case it would see a different host machine and not run.

I installed ON under XP. I can not remember, however, whether
anything from Office was installed in the XP device at that time. I
think that I re-installed XP in between (restored from an image).

The Enterprise edition is the only one that does not make that
check.

How can I determine which version of Office I have?

If a legitimate copy of ON is installed on the new (second) host you
would be OK.

This would explain the situation under Vista.
But not for XP and Win7.

Rainald

.

 

[Bob Perry]

Rainald,
Twice now I've tried to post here and I get a time out.
If you would like to continue the conversation please send you email addy.

bob
(e-mail address removed)

Thank you so much for your repy, Bob!
Most interesting reply from Ceedo.

I can not see what Keith Keith means by "Consumer versions" of Office.

I can not say for any other Office applications but OneNote. I did not
install any other Office .
As said before (quoted below) my ON wprks pretty well on all compoters I
have attched it to.
And it's no "Enterprise" thing. I just have a stand-alone version
ibstalled frim a CD with bothing but ON on it.

Did you yourself have experienced different results?

Rainald
P.S. I think that I'll contact Ceedo one of these days

Here is what I was trying to say. Keith, moderator of the CEEDO
forum says it better.

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Hi, Bob.

Consumer versions of MS Office use hardware IDs from the host PC for
activation. When you launch Office, it will scan the host PC for the
hardware IDs that it used for activation, and if they are not found,
it will deactivate.

With the Enterprise version of Office, there is no activation
required, and therefore, no hardware IDs involved. This is why an
Enterprise version of Office is portable in Ceedo.

Bob Perry wrote:
:
Ang130 wrote:

Can I run ON from an external drive without it being installed on
a local machine?

YES, if run under Ceedo with the Argo installer.[1]

If you are going to do that you must be running Office (OneNote)
Enterprise if ON is not installed on the host machine.

I have to disagree (as to my experience).

I have tested things on my test machine under XP, Vista and Win7
(triple boot).
Only on the Win7 device Office 2007 is installed. I can not say which
version. I assume that it is the Pro version. ON is not on the Office
CD, I got it stand-alone.
Under Vista and XP nothing from Office is installed.
ON under Ceedo runs fine under all three.

Microsoft checks to see that On is running on the machine on
which it was originally installed.

What do you mean by "Microsoft" in so far?
Does *ON* started from the HDD under Ceedo perform such a check?
What else might perform such check?

In this case it would see a different host machine and not run.

I installed ON under XP. I can not remember, however, whether
anything from Office was installed in the XP device at that time. I
think that I re-installed XP in between (restored from an image).

The Enterprise edition is the only one that does not make that
check.

How can I determine which version of Office I have?

If a legitimate copy of ON is installed on the new (second) host you
would be OK.

This would explain the situation under Vista.
But not for XP and Win7.

Rainald

.

.

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Twice now I've tried to post here and I get a time out.

Strange. This message did get through.

If you would like to continue the conversation please send you email
addy.

You may reach me under
taesler [at] we [dir] de

Rainald

Thank you so much for your repy, Bob!
Most interesting reply from Ceedo.

I can not see what Keith Keith means by "Consumer versions" of
Office.

I can not say for any other Office applications but OneNote. I did
not install any other Office .
As said before (quoted below) my ON wprks pretty well on all
compoters I have attched it to.
And it's no "Enterprise" thing. I just have a stand-alone version
ibstalled frim a CD with bothing but ON on it.

Did you yourself have experienced different results?

Rainald
P.S. I think that I'll contact Ceedo one of these days

Here is what I was trying to say. Keith, moderator of the CEEDO
forum says it better.

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Hi, Bob.

Consumer versions of MS Office use hardware IDs from the host PC for
activation. When you launch Office, it will scan the host PC for the
hardware IDs that it used for activation, and if they are not found,
it will deactivate.

With the Enterprise version of Office, there is no activation
required, and therefore, no hardware IDs involved. This is why an
Enterprise version of Office is portable in Ceedo.



:

Bob Perry wrote:
:
Ang130 wrote:

Can I run ON from an external drive without it being installed
on a local machine?

YES, if run under Ceedo with the Argo installer.[1]

If you are going to do that you must be running Office (OneNote)
Enterprise if ON is not installed on the host machine.

I have to disagree (as to my experience).

I have tested things on my test machine under XP, Vista and Win7
(triple boot).
Only on the Win7 device Office 2007 is installed. I can not say
which version. I assume that it is the Pro version. ON is not on
the Office CD, I got it stand-alone.
Under Vista and XP nothing from Office is installed.
ON under Ceedo runs fine under all three.

Microsoft checks to see that On is running on the machine on
which it was originally installed.

What do you mean by "Microsoft" in so far?
Does *ON* started from the HDD under Ceedo perform such a check?
What else might perform such check?

In this case it would see a different host machine and not run.

I installed ON under XP. I can not remember, however, whether
anything from Office was installed in the XP device at that time. I
think that I re-installed XP in between (restored from an image).

The Enterprise edition is the only one that does not make that
check.

How can I determine which version of Office I have?

If a legitimate copy of ON is installed on the new (second) host
you would be OK.

This would explain the situation under Vista.
But not for XP and Win7.

Rainald

 

[Bob Perry]

Rainald,

I got into the "enterprise" thing because running a copy of ON on CEEDO
using a host without ON installed doesn't work. ON can't find the necessary
hardware ID. At least that’s been my experience. However, if ON is not on
the host machine “print to ON†will not work. That’s because CEEDO does not
host drivers.

I considered trying to replicate the condition but I would need to do just
too much uninstalling, etc. If you have a PC with no Office or ON at all
try running ON from CEEDO I believe it will fail.

I think consumer versions are the typical installs from packages like
"Office Home and Student". These depend on the computer hardware ID while
the enterprise edition sold to companies for distribution to employee work
stations does not.

CEEDO and ON make a really great combination.

Let me know if you try a "lab experiment " on this.

I couldn't male your email work.

Bob

Twice now I've tried to post here and I get a time out.

Strange. This message did get through.

If you would like to continue the conversation please send you email
addy.

You may reach me under
taesler [at] we [dir] de

Rainald

Thank you so much for your repy, Bob!
Most interesting reply from Ceedo.

I can not see what Keith Keith means by "Consumer versions" of
Office.

I can not say for any other Office applications but OneNote. I did
not install any other Office .
As said before (quoted below) my ON wprks pretty well on all
compoters I have attched it to.
And it's no "Enterprise" thing. I just have a stand-alone version
ibstalled frim a CD with bothing but ON on it.

Did you yourself have experienced different results?

Rainald
P.S. I think that I'll contact Ceedo one of these days

Bob Perry wrote:
Here is what I was trying to say. Keith, moderator of the CEEDO
forum says it better.

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Hi, Bob.

Consumer versions of MS Office use hardware IDs from the host PC for
activation. When you launch Office, it will scan the host PC for the
hardware IDs that it used for activation, and if they are not found,
it will deactivate.

With the Enterprise version of Office, there is no activation
required, and therefore, no hardware IDs involved. This is why an
Enterprise version of Office is portable in Ceedo.



:

Bob Perry wrote:
:
Ang130 wrote:

Can I run ON from an external drive without it being installed
on a local machine?

YES, if run under Ceedo with the Argo installer.[1]

If you are going to do that you must be running Office (OneNote)
Enterprise if ON is not installed on the host machine.

I have to disagree (as to my experience).

I have tested things on my test machine under XP, Vista and Win7
(triple boot).
Only on the Win7 device Office 2007 is installed. I can not say
which version. I assume that it is the Pro version. ON is not on
the Office CD, I got it stand-alone.
Under Vista and XP nothing from Office is installed.
ON under Ceedo runs fine under all three.

Microsoft checks to see that On is running on the machine on
which it was originally installed.

What do you mean by "Microsoft" in so far?
Does *ON* started from the HDD under Ceedo perform such a check?
What else might perform such check?

In this case it would see a different host machine and not run.

I installed ON under XP. I can not remember, however, whether
anything from Office was installed in the XP device at that time. I
think that I re-installed XP in between (restored from an image).

The Enterprise edition is the only one that does not make that
check.

How can I determine which version of Office I have?

If a legitimate copy of ON is installed on the new (second) host
you would be OK.

This would explain the situation under Vista.
But not for XP and Win7.

Rainald

.

 

[Rainald Taesler]

I got into the "enterprise" thing because running a copy of ON on
CEEDO using a host without ON installed doesn't work. ON can't find
the necessary hardware ID. At least that’s been my experience.

As explained in detail, it works for me (a) on computers where ON is
installed and (b) on computers where ON is not installed.

However, if ON is not on the host machine “print to ON†will not
work. That’s because CEEDO does not host drivers.

Yes, that's a known shortcoming.
At present I do not see a way around. Perhaps some "portable"
application for creating PDFs or images might be a workaround

I considered trying to replicate the condition but I would need to do
just too much uninstalling, etc. If you have a PC with no Office or
ON at all try running ON from CEEDO I believe it will fail.

That's what I did before.
And yesterday I tried it in addition on my new HP computer with a
factory pre-installed XP SP3 (no Office pre-installed)
ON did work as usual.
Today I installed the Office trial version )which came from the
manufacturer) on this computer. No changes.

I think consumer versions are the typical installs from packages like
"Office Home and Student". These depend on the computer hardware ID
while the enterprise edition sold to companies for distribution to
employee work stations does not.

As said, I can not confirm this.

CEEDO and ON make a really great combination.

Yes. And it would be even better would MS do a bit of work on the "Send
to OneNote" issue.

Let me know if you try a "lab experiment " on this.

I think that I did all I can do with experimenting. What else do you
think I might try??

Would it make sense to install the Office trial on the Ceedo-drive and
test how it will behave in other computers?

As I do not want to uninstall ON on the Ceedo-drive I might perhaps I
might perhaps install Ceedo on an old HDD connected with a USB adapter
and then try different downloads of ON.

I couldn't male your email work.

Sorry, there were two typos. Should read:
taesler [at] web [dot] de

Regards
Rainald

Twice now I've tried to post here and I get a time out.

Strange. This message did get through.

If you would like to continue the conversation please send you email
addy.

You may reach me under
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Rainald

:

Thank you so much for your repy, Bob!
Most interesting reply from Ceedo.

I can not see what Keith Keith means by "Consumer versions" of
Office.

I can not say for any other Office applications but OneNote. I did
not install any other Office .
As said before (quoted below) my ON wprks pretty well on all
compoters I have attched it to.
And it's no "Enterprise" thing. I just have a stand-alone version
ibstalled frim a CD with bothing but ON on it.

Did you yourself have experienced different results?

Rainald
P.S. I think that I'll contact Ceedo one of these days

Bob Perry wrote:
Here is what I was trying to say. Keith, moderator of the CEEDO
forum says it better.

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Hi, Bob.

Consumer versions of MS Office use hardware IDs from the host PC
for activation. When you launch Office, it will scan the host PC
for the hardware IDs that it used for activation, and if they are
not found, it will deactivate.

With the Enterprise version of Office, there is no activation
required, and therefore, no hardware IDs involved. This is why an
Enterprise version of Office is portable in Ceedo.



:

Bob Perry wrote:
:
Ang130 wrote:

Can I run ON from an external drive without it being installed
on a local machine?

YES, if run under Ceedo with the Argo installer.[1]

If you are going to do that you must be running Office (OneNote)
Enterprise if ON is not installed on the host machine.

I have to disagree (as to my experience).

I have tested things on my test machine under XP, Vista and Win7
(triple boot).
Only on the Win7 device Office 2007 is installed. I can not say
which version. I assume that it is the Pro version. ON is not on
the Office CD, I got it stand-alone.
Under Vista and XP nothing from Office is installed.
ON under Ceedo runs fine under all three.

Microsoft checks to see that On is running on the machine on
which it was originally installed.

What do you mean by "Microsoft" in so far?
Does *ON* started from the HDD under Ceedo perform such a check?
What else might perform such check?

In this case it would see a different host machine and not run.

I installed ON under XP. I can not remember, however, whether
anything from Office was installed in the XP device at that
time. I think that I re-installed XP in between (restored from
an image).

The Enterprise edition is the only one that does not make that
check.

How can I determine which version of Office I have?

If a legitimate copy of ON is installed on the new (second) host
you would be OK.

This would explain the situation under Vista.
But not for XP and Win7.

Rainald

.

 

[Bob Perry]

Rainald,

Sounds like you have tried every thing. I've got a couple laptop drives
hanging around and I may set up an experiment for myself.

Assuming all this works on my side of the Atlantic I can go to Office 2010
without worrying about getting a copy of Office 2010 enterprise.

I'll let you know what works out.
thanks for all the help.

Bob

I got into the "enterprise" thing because running a copy of ON on
CEEDO using a host without ON installed doesn't work. ON can't find
the necessary hardware ID. At least that’s been my experience.

As explained in detail, it works for me (a) on computers where ON is
installed and (b) on computers where ON is not installed.

However, if ON is not on the host machine “print to ON†will not
work. That’s because CEEDO does not host drivers.

Yes, that's a known shortcoming.
At present I do not see a way around. Perhaps some "portable"
application for creating PDFs or images might be a workaround

I considered trying to replicate the condition but I would need to do
just too much uninstalling, etc. If you have a PC with no Office or
ON at all try running ON from CEEDO I believe it will fail.

That's what I did before.
And yesterday I tried it in addition on my new HP computer with a
factory pre-installed XP SP3 (no Office pre-installed)
ON did work as usual.
Today I installed the Office trial version )which came from the
manufacturer) on this computer. No changes.

I think consumer versions are the typical installs from packages like
"Office Home and Student". These depend on the computer hardware ID
while the enterprise edition sold to companies for distribution to
employee work stations does not.

As said, I can not confirm this.

CEEDO and ON make a really great combination.

Yes. And it would be even better would MS do a bit of work on the "Send
to OneNote" issue.

Let me know if you try a "lab experiment " on this.

I think that I did all I can do with experimenting. What else do you
think I might try??

Would it make sense to install the Office trial on the Ceedo-drive and
test how it will behave in other computers?

As I do not want to uninstall ON on the Ceedo-drive I might perhaps I
might perhaps install Ceedo on an old HDD connected with a USB adapter
and then try different downloads of ON.

I couldn't male your email work.

Sorry, there were two typos. Should read:
taesler [at] web [dot] de

Regards
Rainald

Bob Perry wrote:
Twice now I've tried to post here and I get a time out.

Strange. This message did get through.

If you would like to continue the conversation please send you email
addy.

You may reach me under
taesler [at] we [dir] de

Rainald


:

Thank you so much for your repy, Bob!
Most interesting reply from Ceedo.

I can not see what Keith Keith means by "Consumer versions" of
Office.

I can not say for any other Office applications but OneNote. I did
not install any other Office .
As said before (quoted below) my ON wprks pretty well on all
compoters I have attched it to.
And it's no "Enterprise" thing. I just have a stand-alone version
ibstalled frim a CD with bothing but ON on it.

Did you yourself have experienced different results?

Rainald
P.S. I think that I'll contact Ceedo one of these days

Bob Perry wrote:
Here is what I was trying to say. Keith, moderator of the CEEDO
forum says it better.

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Hi, Bob.

Consumer versions of MS Office use hardware IDs from the host PC
for activation. When you launch Office, it will scan the host PC
for the hardware IDs that it used for activation, and if they are
not found, it will deactivate.

With the Enterprise version of Office, there is no activation
required, and therefore, no hardware IDs involved. This is why an
Enterprise version of Office is portable in Ceedo.



:

Bob Perry wrote:
:
Ang130 wrote:

Can I run ON from an external drive without it being installed
on a local machine?

YES, if run under Ceedo with the Argo installer.[1]

If you are going to do that you must be running Office (OneNote)
Enterprise if ON is not installed on the host machine.

I have to disagree (as to my experience).

I have tested things on my test machine under XP, Vista and Win7
(triple boot).
Only on the Win7 device Office 2007 is installed. I can not say
which version. I assume that it is the Pro version. ON is not on
the Office CD, I got it stand-alone.
Under Vista and XP nothing from Office is installed.
ON under Ceedo runs fine under all three.

Microsoft checks to see that On is running on the machine on
which it was originally installed.

What do you mean by "Microsoft" in so far?
Does *ON* started from the HDD under Ceedo perform such a check?
What else might perform such check?

In this case it would see a different host machine and not run.

I installed ON under XP. I can not remember, however, whether
anything from Office was installed in the XP device at that
time. I think that I re-installed XP in between (restored from
an image).

The Enterprise edition is the only one that does not make that
check.

How can I determine which version of Office I have?

If a legitimate copy of ON is installed on the new (second) host
you would be OK.

This would explain the situation under Vista.
But not for XP and Win7.

Rainald

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[Rainald Taesler]

Thaks for the reply.
Let's keep contact.

Rainald

Rainald,

Sounds like you have tried every thing. I've got a couple laptop
drives hanging around and I may set up an experiment for myself.

Assuming all this works on my side of the Atlantic I can go to Office
2010 without worrying about getting a copy of Office 2010 enterprise.

I'll let you know what works out.
thanks for all the help.

Bob

I got into the "enterprise" thing because running a copy of ON on
CEEDO using a host without ON installed doesn't work. ON can't find
the necessary hardware ID. At least that’s been my experience.

As explained in detail, it works for me (a) on computers where ON is
installed and (b) on computers where ON is not installed.

However, if ON is not on the host machine “print to ON†will not
work. That’s because CEEDO does not host drivers.

Yes, that's a known shortcoming.
At present I do not see a way around. Perhaps some "portable"
application for creating PDFs or images might be a workaround

I considered trying to replicate the condition but I would need to
do just too much uninstalling, etc. If you have a PC with no
Office or ON at all try running ON from CEEDO I believe it will
fail.

That's what I did before.
And yesterday I tried it in addition on my new HP computer with a
factory pre-installed XP SP3 (no Office pre-installed)
ON did work as usual.
Today I installed the Office trial version )which came from the
manufacturer) on this computer. No changes.

I think consumer versions are the typical installs from packages
like "Office Home and Student". These depend on the computer
hardware ID while the enterprise edition sold to companies for
distribution to employee work stations does not.

As said, I can not confirm this.

CEEDO and ON make a really great combination.

Yes. And it would be even better would MS do a bit of work on the
"Send to OneNote" issue.

Let me know if you try a "lab experiment " on this.

I think that I did all I can do with experimenting. What else do you
think I might try??

Would it make sense to install the Office trial on the Ceedo-drive
and test how it will behave in other computers?

As I do not want to uninstall ON on the Ceedo-drive I might perhaps I
might perhaps install Ceedo on an old HDD connected with a USB
adapter and then try different downloads of ON.

I couldn't male your email work.

Sorry, there were two typos. Should read:
taesler [at] web [dot] de

Regards
Rainald

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Bob Perry wrote:
Twice now I've tried to post here and I get a time out.

Strange. This message did get through.

If you would like to continue the conversation please send you
email addy.

You may reach me under
taesler [at] we [dir] de

Rainald


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Thank you so much for your repy, Bob!
Most interesting reply from Ceedo.

I can not see what Keith Keith means by "Consumer versions" of
Office.

I can not say for any other Office applications but OneNote. I
did not install any other Office .
As said before (quoted below) my ON wprks pretty well on all
compoters I have attched it to.
And it's no "Enterprise" thing. I just have a stand-alone version
ibstalled frim a CD with bothing but ON on it.

Did you yourself have experienced different results?

Rainald
P.S. I think that I'll contact Ceedo one of these days

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Here is what I was trying to say. Keith, moderator of the CEEDO
forum says it better.

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Hi, Bob.

Consumer versions of MS Office use hardware IDs from the host PC
for activation. When you launch Office, it will scan the host PC
for the hardware IDs that it used for activation, and if they
are not found, it will deactivate.

With the Enterprise version of Office, there is no activation
required, and therefore, no hardware IDs involved. This is why
an Enterprise version of Office is portable in Ceedo.



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Bob Perry wrote:
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Ang130 wrote:

Can I run ON from an external drive without it being
installed on a local machine?

YES, if run under Ceedo with the Argo installer.[1]

If you are going to do that you must be running Office
(OneNote) Enterprise if ON is not installed on the host
machine.

I have to disagree (as to my experience).

I have tested things on my test machine under XP, Vista and
Win7 (triple boot).
Only on the Win7 device Office 2007 is installed. I can not say
which version. I assume that it is the Pro version. ON is not
on the Office CD, I got it stand-alone.
Under Vista and XP nothing from Office is installed.
ON under Ceedo runs fine under all three.

Microsoft checks to see that On is running on the machine on
which it was originally installed.

What do you mean by "Microsoft" in so far?
Does *ON* started from the HDD under Ceedo perform such a
check? What else might perform such check?

In this case it would see a different host machine and not
run.

I installed ON under XP. I can not remember, however, whether
anything from Office was installed in the XP device at that
time. I think that I re-installed XP in between (restored from
an image).

The Enterprise edition is the only one that does not make that
check.

How can I determine which version of Office I have?

If a legitimate copy of ON is installed on the new (second)
host you would be OK.

This would explain the situation under Vista.
But not for XP and Win7.

Rainald

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