Can't edit my pages with FrontPage

[derfy]

Hi,

I have a website created with FrontPage and Published to an ftp server by
copying and pasting the content instead of using the FrontPage built-in
publishing feature. Everything is working alright, but each time I try to
update the site by using the same means (copying and pasting to the server)
the forms in the site does not work.

So I tried my favorite method of editing websites, and that is using the
"Edit with FrontPage" button in the browser window, which prompts you for the
user name and password. But the problem is if I provide the user name and the
password (the same account I use to access my files on the ftp server) it is
never accepted.

What I want to know is that, is there any other method I can use to edit the
site without breaking the extensions there by making the forms useless?

Thank you in advance.

 

[Steve Easton]

Pages with forms "Must" be "Published" to the server using the http:// address of the website.
FTP in any mode "breaks" forms.


--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

 

[Tom Willett]

The use of FrontPage forms requires http publishing to a host that has the
FP server extensions installed and configured.

The forms will not work using FTP and copy and paste.
--
===
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
| Hi,
|
| I have a website created with FrontPage and Published to an ftp server by
| copying and pasting the content instead of using the FrontPage built-in
| publishing feature. Everything is working alright, but each time I try to
| update the site by using the same means (copying and pasting to the
server)
| the forms in the site does not work.
|
| So I tried my favorite method of editing websites, and that is using the
| "Edit with FrontPage" button in the browser window, which prompts you for
the
| user name and password. But the problem is if I provide the user name and
the
| password (the same account I use to access my files on the ftp server) it
is
| never accepted.
|
| What I want to know is that, is there any other method I can use to edit
the
| site without breaking the extensions there by making the forms useless?
|
| Thank you in advance.
|
|

 

[derfy]

Thanks for the information, but the question, is what can I do now?

 

[Ronx]

Repair (ask your host to run Server Health) or reinstall the extensions.
Then never use FTP again on that site.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

 

[derfy]

Not even when the webserver supports ftp? And what will happen if I use
FrontPage's built-in ftp publishing feature?

 

[Steve Easton]

Not even when the webserver supports ftp? And what will happen if I use
FrontPage's built-in ftp publishing feature?

You will break / corrupt the extensions, unless you only ftp to a sub web.

Bottom line, if you have extensions installed "always" use the http:// mode to publish.


--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

 

[derfy]

Ok, thank you very much for your support, I will be updating you on what
happens. I'm thinking of deleting the entire content of the already uploaded
site and use the built-in publishing feature, what do you think?

 

[Steve Easton]

No need to delete what is already published.

Open the remote web ( the one on the server ) in FrontPage.
Launch FrontPage, click File > Open Site and in the Open site dialog enter http://www.yourwebsite.com and click OK
When it is opened, click Tools > Recalculate Hyperlinks.
When it's done close the remote site.
Open your local site and Recalculate Hyperlinks.

Then publish the entire site using the http:// address.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

 

[derfy]

If I try to open the site live in FP, I'm prompted to provide user name and
password and when I do, it is never accepted. I do manage to get the site
alright by selecting "cancel" on the dialogue box that prompts me for the
account, but any changes I make to the page does not reflect on the site
itself. Should I still go ahead and try what you instructed me to do?

 

[Steve Easton]

Have your host repair / reinstall the extensions.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

 

[David Berry]

Contact your web host about the password issue

If I try to open the site live in FP, I'm prompted to provide user name
and
password and when I do, it is never accepted. I do manage to get the site
alright by selecting "cancel" on the dialogue box that prompts me for the
account, but any changes I make to the page does not reflect on the site
itself. Should I still go ahead and try what you instructed me to do?

 

[derfy]

No I'm yet contact them. But I forgot to add that I've been using this same
account (user name and password) to upload and access my files on the ftp.

 

[Steve Easton]

That's because ftp:// and http:// use the same user name and password.
However when you use ftp you break the extensions and then you can no longer log on using http://

One more time, have your host repair / reinstall the extensions and then "Do Not" use ftp to publish to your site.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

 

[redemption2]

Out of curiosity, does that problem remain in EW, or is it fixed?

 

[Tom Willett]

It's not a problem, it's a required featured to make them function.

EW doesn't have the forms component.
--
===
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===

| Out of curiosity, does that problem remain in EW, or is it fixed?
|
| "Steve Easton" wrote:
|
| > Pages with forms "Must" be "Published" to the server using the http://
address of the website.
| > FTP in any mode "breaks" forms.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Steve Easton
| > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > FP Cleaner
| > http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
| > Hit Me FP
| > http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
| >
| >
| > > Hi,
| > >
| > > I have a website created with FrontPage and Published to an ftp server
by
| > > copying and pasting the content instead of using the FrontPage
built-in
| > > publishing feature. Everything is working alright, but each time I try
to
| > > update the site by using the same means (copying and pasting to the
server)
| > > the forms in the site does not work.
| > >
| > > So I tried my favorite method of editing websites, and that is using
the
| > > "Edit with FrontPage" button in the browser window, which prompts you
for the
| > > user name and password. But the problem is if I provide the user name
and the
| > > password (the same account I use to access my files on the ftp server)
it is
| > > never accepted.
| > >
| > > What I want to know is that, is there any other method I can use to
edit the
| > > site without breaking the extensions there by making the forms
useless?
| > >
| > > Thank you in advance.
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
| >

 

[Jim Cheshire (Jimco Software)]

It's not a problem, it's a required featured to make them function.

EW doesn't have the forms component.

The same form components that were available in FrontPage are
available in EW and they work exactly the same way. In other words,
screw up the FPSE and they won't work.

Jim Cheshire
Jimco Software and Books
http://www.jimcosoftware.com
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[Steve Easton]

The same form components that were available in FrontPage are
available in EW and they work exactly the same way. In other words,
screw up the FPSE and they won't work.

Except I don't seem to be able to find form field validation anywhere.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

 

[Tom Willett]

Thanks for the clarification, Jim.

--
===
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
| On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:36:48 -0600, "Tom Willett"
|
| >It's not a problem, it's a required featured to make them function.
| >
| >EW doesn't have the forms component.
|
| The same form components that were available in FrontPage are
| available in EW and they work exactly the same way. In other words,
| screw up the FPSE and they won't work.
|
| Jim Cheshire
| Jimco Software and Books
| http://www.jimcosoftware.com
| http://www.jimcobooks.com
| -----------------------------------------------
| Read our new article on moving from FrontPage
| to Expression Web at http://www.jimcobooks.com.
|
| Author:
| Special Edition Using Microsoft Expression Web
|
| Book includes a CD with FREE FULL VERSIONS of:
| DHTML Menu Builder LITE Edition (www.dhtmlmenubuilder.com)
| The Logo Creator (www.thelogocreator.com)
|
| Pre-order now at http://www.jimcobooks.com
|

 

[Jim Cheshire (Jimco Software)]

Except I don't seem to be able to find form field validation anywhere.

Yeah, they yanked those after beta 1. One of the many subtle feature
changes that wreak havoc on authors.

Jim Cheshire
Jimco Software and Books
http://www.jimcosoftware.com
http://www.jimcobooks.com
-----------------------------------------------
Read our new article on moving from FrontPage
to Expression Web at http://www.jimcobooks.com.

Author:
Special Edition Using Microsoft Expression Web

Book includes a CD with FREE FULL VERSIONS of:
DHTML Menu Builder LITE Edition (www.dhtmlmenubuilder.com)
The Logo Creator (www.thelogocreator.com)

Pre-order now at http://www.jimcobooks.com