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kevs1
I have a Word document. I can't get rid of a blank footer. I've tried everything. What am I doing wrong? thanks.
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Clive Huggan
Before we know what you're doing wrongly, Kevs, we need to know what you are
trying to achieve. Put another way: what is Word producing that you don't
like?
A footer will always be latently present on a page in an electronic sense
and, in Page Layout view, will be visible as an area marked by dotted lines.
You can reduce/increase the area via Format menu => Document => Margins =>
From Edge. But nothing will be visible in hard copy or Normal view. So the
best thing is just to ignore it in Page Layout view -- or change to Normal
view.
Post back with more detail, please (um, I have a sense of deja vu... ;-)
Cheers,
Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from North America and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
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trying to achieve. Put another way: what is Word producing that you don't
like?
A footer will always be latently present on a page in an electronic sense
and, in Page Layout view, will be visible as an area marked by dotted lines.
You can reduce/increase the area via Format menu => Document => Margins =>
From Edge. But nothing will be visible in hard copy or Normal view. So the
best thing is just to ignore it in Page Layout view -- or change to Normal
view.
Post back with more detail, please (um, I have a sense of deja vu... ;-)
Cheers,
Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from North America and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
====================================================
K
kevs1
thanks Clive:
I tried ( in page layout)
Format menu => Document => Margins =>
From Edge. But the footer would not go away.
I'm just trying to move some text to the bottom edge. I can't do it.
I just tried normal view, but normal view took the second column made it a one column document, so that did not work.
I tried ( in page layout)
Format menu => Document => Margins =>
From Edge. But the footer would not go away.
I'm just trying to move some text to the bottom edge. I can't do it.
I just tried normal view, but normal view took the second column made it a one column document, so that did not work.
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Clive Huggan
Kevs,
Your printer, not the footer, ultimately limits how close to the edges you
can go.
Try, in Format menu => Document => Margins => From Edge => to set Footer to
zero. It will then take up only the space occupied by the paragraph mark.
To reduce that, go into the footer and reduce the font size, line spacing
and paragraph leading.
The footer will not go away; it's hard-wired into Word. But it can be made
insignificant.
Beyond that, you need a page layout application (e.g., Pages in Page Layout
mode) and if you want to PDF or print it, a new printer. Word is a
word-processor, not a page layout application. ;-)
If I need to squeeze text on to a page, I usually reduce the paragraph
leading (the space between paragraphs). For that you need to apply leading
to your body text paragraph style and eliminate any additional paragraph
marks between paragraphs. If you'd like more reading, see 'The advantages
of including leading (blank space above or below) in styles') on page 176 of
"Bend Word to Your Will"
(http://word.mvps.org/Mac/Bend/BendWordToYourWill.html).
Cheers,
Clive
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Your printer, not the footer, ultimately limits how close to the edges you
can go.
Try, in Format menu => Document => Margins => From Edge => to set Footer to
zero. It will then take up only the space occupied by the paragraph mark.
To reduce that, go into the footer and reduce the font size, line spacing
and paragraph leading.
The footer will not go away; it's hard-wired into Word. But it can be made
insignificant.
Beyond that, you need a page layout application (e.g., Pages in Page Layout
mode) and if you want to PDF or print it, a new printer. Word is a
word-processor, not a page layout application. ;-)
If I need to squeeze text on to a page, I usually reduce the paragraph
leading (the space between paragraphs). For that you need to apply leading
to your body text paragraph style and eliminate any additional paragraph
marks between paragraphs. If you'd like more reading, see 'The advantages
of including leading (blank space above or below) in styles') on page 176 of
"Bend Word to Your Will"
(http://word.mvps.org/Mac/Bend/BendWordToYourWill.html).
Cheers,
Clive
======
K
kevs1
Clive:
I'll take your word that it can't go away. Not sure what mean by it can be made insignificant. It's about an inch of white space I could use for text.
I'll take your word that it can't go away. Not sure what mean by it can be made insignificant. It's about an inch of white space I could use for text.
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CyberTaz
What Clive is telling you is that if you follow his instructions you'll be
squeezing every bit of content on a sheet of paper that you can, but just
because you can do it on screen doesn't mean your printer can do it on
paper. Most non-commercial printing devices have minimum margin requirements
which often affect one edge more than the others - usually the bottom.
Unless the printer has some sort of setting (available through its driver
software) there's nothing you, Word, or OS X can do to override it.
The point that makes it hard to accept is that the printer is probably
advertised as capable of "Borderless" or "Edge-to-Edge" printing. But if you
read the fine print in your owner's guide you'll find that the feature only
applies to paper sizes smaller than Letter - and even then may only be
allowed if some type of photo-quality paper is specified.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
squeezing every bit of content on a sheet of paper that you can, but just
because you can do it on screen doesn't mean your printer can do it on
paper. Most non-commercial printing devices have minimum margin requirements
which often affect one edge more than the others - usually the bottom.
Unless the printer has some sort of setting (available through its driver
software) there's nothing you, Word, or OS X can do to override it.
The point that makes it hard to accept is that the printer is probably
advertised as capable of "Borderless" or "Edge-to-Edge" printing. But if you
read the fine print in your owner's guide you'll find that the feature only
applies to paper sizes smaller than Letter - and even then may only be
allowed if some type of photo-quality paper is specified.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
K
kevs1
Thanks Bob, I trust you on this, but we never got rid of the footer on screen! Never even got to the stage of the printer!
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Clive Huggan
Kevs,
Bob is spot on. [How can he mind-read from 15,000 km away?]
Am I right in thinking (a) it bugs you that you have a footer *area* (i.e.,
with no content, no solid line etc, just the marquee showing where the
footer area is) that's about 3 mm high at the very foot of the page, just
because it's there? (b) it doesn't bug you so much that you would work in
Normal/Draft view most of the time?
If so, be consoled that Word is not a page layout application. If you want
a footer-free life and Normal view doesn't suit you, use other software.
Caveat: I make the above remarks still not really sure of where you're
coming from or where you want to go -- and your last post does nothing to
advance that. In light of Bob's post, it doesn't really make sense. But
your well-known brevity does show you to be a master of zen.
Maybe it's me. And the penny will drop soon ... ;-)
Clive Huggan
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Bob is spot on. [How can he mind-read from 15,000 km away?]
Am I right in thinking (a) it bugs you that you have a footer *area* (i.e.,
with no content, no solid line etc, just the marquee showing where the
footer area is) that's about 3 mm high at the very foot of the page, just
because it's there? (b) it doesn't bug you so much that you would work in
Normal/Draft view most of the time?
If so, be consoled that Word is not a page layout application. If you want
a footer-free life and Normal view doesn't suit you, use other software.
Caveat: I make the above remarks still not really sure of where you're
coming from or where you want to go -- and your last post does nothing to
advance that. In light of Bob's post, it doesn't really make sense. But
your well-known brevity does show you to be a master of zen.
Maybe it's me. And the penny will drop soon ... ;-)
Clive Huggan
============
K
kevs1
THANKS Clive
Yes that's it, just a dotted line, seems about 3/4 of inch though.
I trust this is the cold hard reality.
Yes that's it, just a dotted line, seems about 3/4 of inch though.
I trust this is the cold hard reality.
C
Clive Huggan
Kevs,
If you want to reduce the size of the blank footer area further, you need to
do as I mentioned in my earlier post:
"Try, in Format menu => Document => Margins => From Edge => to set Footer to
zero. It will then take up only the space occupied by the paragraph mark.
To reduce that, go into the footer and reduce the font size, line spacing
and paragraph leading."
CH
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If you want to reduce the size of the blank footer area further, you need to
do as I mentioned in my earlier post:
"Try, in Format menu => Document => Margins => From Edge => to set Footer to
zero. It will then take up only the space occupied by the paragraph mark.
To reduce that, go into the footer and reduce the font size, line spacing
and paragraph leading."
CH
===
K
kevs1
THANKS Clive:
It was not clear how to go into the footer.
In Excel it's very clear, page set up footer. I don't get that with Word.
It was not clear how to go into the footer.
In Excel it's very clear, page set up footer. I don't get that with Word.
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Clive Huggan
Yep: in Page Layout view you just double-click in the area; in Normal view
you choose View menu => Header & Footer.
CH
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you choose View menu => Header & Footer.
CH
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