can't move picture

[randomonia]

I am using Publisher solely to publish web pages to a server with FP
Server Extensions. The website is just a hobby and I can't spend money
on Frontpage. So all I'm trying to do is open previously created html
files in Publisher, save them as pub files, then publish them to the
server.

Each of the web pages is a one-column, two-row table with a picture
centered in the top cell, and accompanying text in the bottom cell.
When I open the file in Publisher the text is just fine but the image
is right justified, not centered. I figured I could just drag the
image to where I want it but I cannot move it at all. I can't drag it,
nudge it, or anything. When I try to drag it the outline of the
picture drags but when I release the mouse button nothing has changed.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

randomonia

 

[randomonia]

well I still don't know why I couldn't move the picture but I went back
and edited the original html file (got rid of the table) and that fixed
it. There are a LOT of files to edit but in the end it'll be worth it.

 

[DavidF]

It sounds like you are using Publisher in a "creative" way...

Which version of Publisher are you using? When you say that you are opening
"previously created html files in Publisher", are you saying that the html
files were produced by Publisher? Where are these html files coming from?
Are you downloading the html files from the webhost? Do you have the
original Publisher files? Do you do your editing in the Publisher file, and
then produce the new html files?

Please answer those questions and tell us more about what you are trying to
do, and perhaps we can make some suggestions that will fix the problems you
are having and save you some time.

DavidF

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

Are you saying that you are taking normal html files and converting them to
proprietary Publisher html? Why?


| well I still don't know why I couldn't move the picture but I went back
| and edited the original html file (got rid of the table) and that fixed
| it. There are a LOT of files to edit but in the end it'll be worth it.
|
| (e-mail address removed) wrote:
|
| > Each of the web pages is a one-column, two-row table with a picture
| > centered in the top cell, and accompanying text in the bottom cell.
| > When I open the file in Publisher the text is just fine but the image
| > is right justified, not centered. I figured I could just drag the
| > image to where I want it but I cannot move it at all. I can't drag it,
| > nudge it, or anything. When I try to drag it the outline of the
| > picture drags but when I release the mouse button nothing has changed.
|

 

[randomonia]

It sounds like you are using Publisher in a "creative" way...

A couple years back I created some html files using a fairly basic html
editor program (arachnophilia). A friend offered to host them for me
on his server so I ftp'd the files to his server. Recently he changed
his server to one with Frontpage Server Extensions. Therefore, I can
no longer ftp new/edited files to his server - I have to use something
like Frontpage.

I cannot afford Frontpage, not even the 60$ "disc only" I saw for sale
online. Nor do I know anybody who has Frontpage or Dreamweaver or any
other such software that will allow me to publish the files to my
friend's server.

However, I *do* have Publisher 2003. Not ever having used it before I
thought it would be a simple matter to open one of my html files in it
and use it to publish to the server.

After playing around with it a bit I now know better. But I have found
that if I tweak the original html file, then save it as a publisher
file, then tweak it (edit it) some more in publisher, I can pretty much
get what I want on to my friend's server.

But I'm curious about this reply from Rob Giordano (Crash):

"Are you saying that you are taking normal html files and converting
them to
proprietary Publisher html? Why?"

The word "propietary" makes me think that some may find what I'm doing
unethical. If so, I don't understand what the problem is. All I'm
doing is trying to avoid completely rewriting every single page in
Publisher. So I'm using one feature of Publisher (its web publishing
ability) and not the page creation features (for the most part). Is
that an issue?

Hopefully my explanation above explains why I'm trying to do this.
Believe me, if I had Frontpage available I would use it without
hesitation (assuming that it can handle standard html code).

Thanks for the replies.

-randomo

 

[DavidF]

Randomo,

First of all, you don't need to have FrontPage to use FrontPage extensions.
For example you can use the FPSE to upload Publisher files. Reference the
HTTP uploading article, and for reference read the FTP uploading article
here:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/category/1921.aspx

You would not want to FTP to your friend's site, as that would probably
corrupt or break the FPSE.

As per your approach, though Publisher is not intended as a code editor, Pub
2003 does have the ability to open HTML files. As you found, it doesn't do
it very cleanly, or easily but you can in theory convert your existing HTML
files in Publisher, and then upload them via HTTP protocol...using FPSE.

When Rob was talking about the "proprietary" Publisher code, he was talking
about the fact that the Publisher coding engine produces HTML code that is
unique to Publisher. That code would not import into FrontPage because it is
so differ, and likewise, the code you produced with Arachnophilia is also
unique to that program. Its possible that you can use HTTP uploading
protocol with that program too, but you will need to research that...I
haven't used the program. If you can, then you would not need to convert
your files to Publisher files, and you would probably find the HTML code
much cleaner, more universal and faster loading. This would be the
recommended route if it is possible...and it should be.

If you find that you still prefer to convert your files to Publisher, then
here is an article you should read. If you can download all your HTML files
and images from your website, then at the end of this article David Bartosik
describes a process whereby you can rebuild a Publisher website. It should
help make the process easier: "Common Sense Computing 101 aka "Why in the
world would you lose your publisher file?":
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/19/81461.aspx

DavidF

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

No not unethical...you wrote the html it's your's you can do whatever you
want with it. But, if you originally wrote it in standard html, to convert
it to Publisher would be kinda like converting an English document to
Esperanto.

Ask your friend with FP if his host allows for subwebs/subsites, if so, he
could create a subweb/subsite for you to put your content in then you could
ftp to the subweb without breaking the FP SEs on his main site.



|> It sounds like you are using Publisher in a "creative" way...
|
| A couple years back I created some html files using a fairly basic html
| editor program (arachnophilia). A friend offered to host them for me
| on his server so I ftp'd the files to his server. Recently he changed
| his server to one with Frontpage Server Extensions. Therefore, I can
| no longer ftp new/edited files to his server - I have to use something
| like Frontpage.
|
| I cannot afford Frontpage, not even the 60$ "disc only" I saw for sale
| online. Nor do I know anybody who has Frontpage or Dreamweaver or any
| other such software that will allow me to publish the files to my
| friend's server.
|
| However, I *do* have Publisher 2003. Not ever having used it before I
| thought it would be a simple matter to open one of my html files in it
| and use it to publish to the server.
|
| After playing around with it a bit I now know better. But I have found
| that if I tweak the original html file, then save it as a publisher
| file, then tweak it (edit it) some more in publisher, I can pretty much
| get what I want on to my friend's server.
|
| But I'm curious about this reply from Rob Giordano (Crash):
|
| "Are you saying that you are taking normal html files and converting
| them to
| proprietary Publisher html? Why?"
|
| The word "propietary" makes me think that some may find what I'm doing
| unethical. If so, I don't understand what the problem is. All I'm
| doing is trying to avoid completely rewriting every single page in
| Publisher. So I'm using one feature of Publisher (its web publishing
| ability) and not the page creation features (for the most part). Is
| that an issue?
|
| Hopefully my explanation above explains why I'm trying to do this.
| Believe me, if I had Frontpage available I would use it without
| hesitation (assuming that it can handle standard html code).
|
| Thanks for the replies.
|
| -randomo
|
|
| DavidF wrote:
| > It sounds like you are using Publisher in a "creative" way...
| >
| > Which version of Publisher are you using? When you say that you are
opening
| > "previously created html files in Publisher", are you saying that the
html
| > files were produced by Publisher? Where are these html files coming
from?
| > Are you downloading the html files from the webhost? Do you have the
| > original Publisher files? Do you do your editing in the Publisher file,
and
| > then produce the new html files?
| >
| > Please answer those questions and tell us more about what you are trying
to
| > do, and perhaps we can make some suggestions that will fix the problems
you
| > are having and save you some time.
|

 

[randomonia]

Thanks for the great replies DavidF and Rob! I'll look into your
suggestions.

R

likewise, the code you produced with Arachnophilia is also unique to that program.

Actually, Arachnophilia is a basic text editor but uses colored text to
help you with improper coding. For instance, if you leave out a ">"
all the text after that changes color so you can fix it. It's got some
other nice functionality (buttons to add URLs, change text size, etc.)
but I mostly use the colored text and its preview functions.

If you want to check it out it's at
http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/. The newer version is all java
but I prefer the more familiar older non-Java version.

But, if you originally wrote it in standard html, to convert
it to Publisher would be kinda like converting an English document to
Esperanto.

OK, that makes perfect sense. Sorry for misunderstanding you at first.