Can't Open Existing Docs Without First Opening Apps

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dbeachley

I just uploaded Office 2004 on my new iMac. However, it doesn't let me
open docs of any variety without first opening the application (Word,
PPT, or Excel) and using the pull-down "Open" command. How come I can't
just click on the doc and have it pre-select the correct app, since
that's how it worked in my former Office 2001 suite?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

= Dave (in Denver)
 
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Michel Bintener

Hello again,

the statement "I just uploaded Office 2004 on my new iMac" rings a few bells
in my head. Your new iMac came with a Test Drive version of Office 2004; did
you remove it before you installed your Office 2004 copy? If not (or if you
did, but by dragging the folder into the trash), this might be the reason.
You'll need to uninstall Office 2004 and the Test Drive using the Remove
Office tool in Applications/Microsoft Office 2004/Additional Tools/Remove
Office to delete all the files which Office installs on your hard disk.
Don't worry, this will leave all your documents and also your Entourage data
intact. Now reinstall Office, run all the updates that are available, and it
should behave now. If not, post again.

Michel
 
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dbeachley

Good advice, Michel. I didn't take off the Test Drive until after I
started to see it conflict when I registered the app ("You have 29 days
left" to purchase)". Let me give it a try.

- Dave (in Denver)
 
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dbeachley

Michel.

Well, I removed Test Drive and Office 2004 and then reinstalled the
program. Now, Entourage won't open. When I select the app, I get the
message, "This identify cannot be opened with this version of
Entourage." Entourage won't open at all, unfortunately.

- Dave
 
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PhilD

Michel said:
the statement "I just uploaded Office 2004 on my new iMac" rings a few bells
in my head. Your new iMac came with a Test Drive version of Office 2004; did
you remove it before you installed your Office 2004 copy? If not (or if you
did, but by dragging the folder into the trash), this might be the reason.

<etc., and description of how to uninstall and reinstall>

Here is a statement of the bloomin' obvious: "This issue is extremely
common". As there are so many folk getting caught out (forgetting to
remove test drive, or not even aware that it is there in the first
place), would it not be a good idea if future versions of Office
automatically searched for and removed the test drive whilst loading
the "proper" version. At the very least, put a big message up on the
screen first: "Yoo-hoo, you *have* uninstalled test drive, *haven't*
you?".

Am I missing something obvious about why this cannot be done? There
must be plenty of folk who don't post here who have difficulties, and
will end up only thinking unfavourably of Microsoft and/or Apple, with
consequential loss of income and/or reputation.

How do I pass this on to Microsoft?

PhilD
 
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Michel Bintener

Here is a statement of the bloomin' obvious: "This issue is extremely
common". As there are so many folk getting caught out (forgetting to
remove test drive, or not even aware that it is there in the first
place), would it not be a good idea if future versions of Office
automatically searched for and removed the test drive whilst loading
the "proper" version. At the very least, put a big message up on the
screen first: "Yoo-hoo, you *have* uninstalled test drive, *haven't*
you?".

Am I missing something obvious about why this cannot be done? There
must be plenty of folk who don't post here who have difficulties, and
will end up only thinking unfavourably of Microsoft and/or Apple, with
consequential loss of income and/or reputation.

How do I pass this on to Microsoft?

PhilD

You are absolutely right; as someone who regularly posts on this and other
Office:Mac newsgroups, I can't tell you how many times I've seen this
problem come up. Now, if you download the Test Drive, there is a small text
Before you install the purchased version of Office 2004 for Mac

After you purchase Microsoft Office 2004 and before you install it, you must
remove the Office Test Drive.

To remove the Office 2004 for Mac Test Drive

Quit any programs that are running.
On your hard disk, open the Microsoft Office 2004 folder that contains the
Test Drive.
If you saved any documents in the Microsoft Office 2004 folder, move them to
another location.
In the Microsoft Office 2004 folder, double-click Remove Office.
Click Continue.
In the Results window, click Microsoft Office 2004 (including Test Drive), and
then click Continue to move that folder to the Trash. Follow the instructions
on the screen.

That's essentially what needs to be done, but I agree with you for a number
of reasons:

a) it's not prominent enough. Microsoft should put these paragraphs in a
big, red warning box on the top of the page.

b) a large number of users, if not most, will have the Test Drive
pre-installed on their Macs, so the chances of them seeing this message are
quite low.

c) I also think that the warning is part of the installation process of both
the test drive and the full version, but again, it's not displayed
prominently enough. Having the Office installer run the removal tool, after
getting the user's permission, sounds like a really good idea.

As for your last question: Microsoft employees read these newsgroups, so
leaving your feedback here will do. I'm also sure that they must have
noticed the frighteningly high number of users having problems with this, so
I should think they will do something about this at some point.

Michel
 
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dbeachley

Good point, PhilD. I'm a long-time (20 years) Mac-user and having
bought my iMac last weekend, I had no idea that Test Drive was onboard
or that it would conflict with Office 2004. I'm still having issues
with Entourage that seem to have some connection with the Test Drive
problem.

Cheers, Dave
 
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Mickey Stevens

Download and install the latest Office 2004 update, which is Office 2004
Service Pack 2.

In Office 2004, use Microsoft AutoUpdate to get the latest updates. From
any Office application, go to Help > Check for Updates (or manually launch
Microsoft AutoUpdate from the Applications folder). If any updates are
needed, they will display in a sheet, at which point you can check them and
press the "Install" button to download and install them.

Updates can also be found at the Microsoft web site:
<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/downloads.aspx#Office2004>

You'll also want to get the 11.2.1 update, available at the same site.
 

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