can't run office on my two macs

[jack]

I just switched Internet providers and now have a dual modem/router.
The problem is now I can only run Word on one computer at a time. The
window that comes up says that I am only allowd to run it on one
computer and it detects another trying to use it.
Any way I can beat this? I need to use it on my mac and my kids need to
use it on theirs.
Thanks

 

[Kurt]

I just switched Internet providers and now have a dual modem/router.
The problem is now I can only run Word on one computer at a time. The
window that comes up says that I am only allowd to run it on one
computer and it detects another trying to use it.
Any way I can beat this? I need to use it on my mac and my kids need to
use it on theirs.
Thanks

Take one machine off the network when you are using them.

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Take one machine off the network when you are using them.

Still against the license terms, and in these days of the WWW, probably not
very functional either.

That's the way the standard license is defined‹1 user. Though that user can
install it on both a laptop and a desktop, since it's 1 user, two installs
can't both legally run at the same time. It is enforced across
Office--e.g., you can't run Excel while your kids run Word.

Your "kids" probably make you eligible to buy the heavily discounted
student/teacher version, which and is currently offering $50 back, I think
via rebate.
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/

Since the student/teacher edition comes with 3 license keys for 3
simultaneous users, you might even then be able to sell your retail version.

 

[Kurt]

Still against the license terms, and in these days of the WWW, probably not
very functional either.

That's the way the standard license is defined‹1 user. Though that user can
install it on both a laptop and a desktop, since it's 1 user, two installs
can't both legally run at the same time. It is enforced across
Office--e.g., you can't run Excel while your kids run Word.

Your "kids" probably make you eligible to buy the heavily discounted
student/teacher version, which and is currently offering $50 back, I think
via rebate.
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/

Since the student/teacher edition comes with 3 license keys for 3
simultaneous users, you might even then be able to sell your retail version.

Nice tip, but isn't this as "unethical" as simply disconnecting from the
network to get your one copy to run on two machines?
The original user is not a student or a teacher and is kids may or may
not be students in the eyes of MS.

In a perfect world, you'd be allowed to have it on a couple local
machines (like the good old days) and no hassle.

Save everyone a lot of grief.

 

[CyberTaz]

Daiya's accurate & ethical recommendation is exactly that. The fact that the
OP can *legally* & *legitimately* get more for less is a rare thing in
today's world, granted, but this is one of those situations. Just because
it's a good deal doesn't make it unethical.

What you suggested is clearly illegal, however.

The MS definition of "Student" is quite liberal, & a qualifying
student/teacher can even purchase under the plan and give the package as a
gift to someone who is neither... Although there are limits to doing so.

It's too bad that people spend so much time trying to find ways to get
around the rules when the rules aren't really the obstacle they're perceived
as in the first place.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[Kurt]

What you suggested is clearly illegal, however.

The MS definition of "Student" is quite liberal, & a qualifying
student/teacher can even purchase under the plan and give the package as a
gift to someone who is neither... Although there are limits to doing so.

It's too bad that people spend so much time trying to find ways to get
around the rules when the rules aren't really the obstacle they're perceived
as in the first place.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

So I can have a student or teacher purchase a student/teacher edition
for me and let me be one of the users?

 

[mmmmark]

So I can have a student or teacher purchase a student/teacher edition
for me and let me be one of the users?

--

I don't think so. I believe the EULA states that all licenses are intended
to be used within the same house. Having said that, I don't think your own
child using a license away at school would be a violation. Even the IRS
considers that person part of the household.

In any case, you can score a 3-license copy for under 100 clams right now.
That's a no-brainer.

-Mark

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

I don't think so. I believe the EULA states that all licenses are intended
to be used within the same house. Having said that, I don't think your own
child using a license away at school would be a violation. Even the IRS
considers that person part of the household.

In any case, you can score a 3-license copy for under 100 clams right now.
That's a no-brainer.

Yeah, I think it is defined as "student in the household" as well. Apple I
think explicitly says that anyone with students at home can purchase for the
household on the education discount, not just for the students, so anyone
with student children should check out their small discounts. Software is
where you really save money, though‹there are several stores out there,
e.g., journeyed.com, specializing in academic versions.

I haven't read the licenses to see if it specifies non-commercial use, or
anything. That seems the most likely restriction.

I'm pretty sure student is defined as K-12 and college--the online
clearinghouses ask for stringent proof--the MS student/teacher version is a
bit looser about demanding paperwork. Even homeschooled kids manage to
access these discounts, I think.

 

[CyberTaz]

My apologies - I was remembering Apple's Ed. policy which allows a qualified
individual to purchase 1 system per year as a gift for anyone they choose. I
believe it still works that way, but the MS EULA is more restrictive. It
specifically limits the license to 'members of household' but may vary from
one country to another.

If you would like to examine the EULA for any language version of Office you
can start here:

http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/useterms/default.aspx

 

[mmmmark]

Yeah, I think it is defined as "student in the household" as well. Apple
I
think explicitly says that anyone with students at home can purchase for
the
household on the education discount, not just for the students, so anyone
with student children should check out their small discounts. Software is
where you really save money, though > e.g., journeyed.com, specializing in
academic versions.

I haven't read the licenses to see if it specifies non-commercial use, or
anything. That seems the most likely restriction.


I'm pretty sure student is defined as K-12 and college--the online
clearinghouses ask for stringent proof--the MS student/teacher version is
a
bit looser about demanding paperwork. Even homeschooled kids manage to
access these discounts, I think.

--
Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word
Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/
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I bought the Student/Teacher version while I (back) in college a few years
back. I purchased off the Apple Education Store, and it asked me what
school, but interestingly enough, it did NOT verify it in any way (that I
know of). In other words, it did not make ME prove it.

-Mark