captions - style alignment ignored, overwritten by picture alignme

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wildetudor

I have my "Caption" style customized with Alignment=Centered, however
whenever I insert a new caption for a picture (right click on picture|Insert
Caption), its alignment is Left, which is the same alignment that the picture
has by default; if I change the alignment of the picture beforehand, for
example to Right, then its caption will also be inserted with
Alignment=Right, disregarding the style. I therefore have to manually apply
the Caption style for every single caption that I insert, in order for it to
become centered.

Interestingly enough, even though the caption does not have the Caption
style when first inserted, it does have all of the text formatting included
in that style; for instance, I have set the font under the Caption style to
be gray and italicized, and inserted Captions are indeed gray and italicized,
but the Alignment setting is always overwritten by the picture's alignment.

My question is whether it is possible to either
- make inserted captions automatically be of the style Caption, or
- set a default alignment for inserted pictures; I know you can set a
default *position* for them (such as In-line With Text, or Squared) but I'm
not sure if there is also a style for pictures or something that can allow a
default set of settings for every new picture inserted into the document

Anticipated thanks for any help.
 
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Stefan Blom

Note that if you are adding captions to wrapped objects, Word places the
caption inside a text box, which might explain what you are seeing.
 
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wildetudor

Hi, and thanks for your reply.

The picture is not wrapped, it's set to "In line with text", therefore the
caption is not in the text box, it just has the problem that I mentioned. You
can try and replicate it if you want, but I'm almost certain it would behave
the same.
 
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wildetudor

Hi, and thanks for your reply.

The picture is not wrapped, it's set to "In line with text", therefore the
caption is not in the text box, it just has the problem that I mentioned. You
can try and replicate it if you want, but I'm almost certain it would behave
the same.
 
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wildetudor

Hi, and thanks for your reply.

The picture is not wrapped, it's set to "In line with text", therefore the
caption is not in the text box, it just has the problem that I mentioned. You
can try and replicate it if you want, but I'm almost certain it would behave
the same.
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

You should actually be grateful, since it can be very difficult to type
centered captions in the Caption dialog (where they tend to disappear). Does
pressing Ctrl+Q correct the alignment after the caption has been inserted?
If not, then the style has not been properly modified.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org
 
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wildetudor

Hi, thanks for your reply. Sorry for the triple post - gave me an error when
I pressed Submit and on each subsequent trial!

In the Caption dialog it seems as though the alignment will be centered,
however after pressing OK, the caption is inserted aligned Left.

Pressing Ctrl+Q after the caption has been inserted does indeed correct the
alignment, however I wish it were inserted as Centered in the first place,
since this is what the Caption style indicates.
 
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PamC via OfficeKB.com

Here's what I just found. If the pictures is aligned left, the caption,
when inserted via the right click method, is inserted align left. If the
image is centered, the caption is centered. And if the image is aligned
right, the caption is aligned right. (I've never used this method before.
That's a nice feature.)

If I insert the caption by placing the cursor on the return just below the
image and then clicking insert caption, the caption is inserted aligned
center. It doesn't seem to matter what style is applied to the paragraph
before the insertion.


PamC
Hi, thanks for your reply. Sorry for the triple post - gave me an error when
I pressed Submit and on each subsequent trial!

In the Caption dialog it seems as though the alignment will be centered,
however after pressing OK, the caption is inserted aligned Left.

Pressing Ctrl+Q after the caption has been inserted does indeed correct the
alignment, however I wish it were inserted as Centered in the first place,
since this is what the Caption style indicates.
You should actually be grateful, since it can be very difficult to type
centered captions in the Caption dialog (where they tend to disappear). Does
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wildetudor

I wasn't refering to the style of the paragraph before the insertion, but to
the style Caption - that style is formatted with alignment=Center, and yet
when you insert a caption (in any way possible), its alignment matches the
alignment of the picture rather than the alignment given by the Caption
style. And this isn't a nice feature in my opinion, since I would like my
captions to be formatted as I wanted them to (i.e. according to the style
Caption) rather than to the alignment that the picture happens to have.

Actually, what I would really want is to find a way to change the default
alignment of inserted pictures. If I could make that always be Centered, then
the caption may very well do as it pleases and follow the picture's
alignment, because then they will both be Centered!



PamC via OfficeKB.com said:
Here's what I just found. If the pictures is aligned left, the caption,
when inserted via the right click method, is inserted align left. If the
image is centered, the caption is centered. And if the image is aligned
right, the caption is aligned right. (I've never used this method before.
That's a nice feature.)

If I insert the caption by placing the cursor on the return just below the
image and then clicking insert caption, the caption is inserted aligned
center. It doesn't seem to matter what style is applied to the paragraph
before the insertion.


PamC
Hi, thanks for your reply. Sorry for the triple post - gave me an error when
I pressed Submit and on each subsequent trial!

In the Caption dialog it seems as though the alignment will be centered,
however after pressing OK, the caption is inserted aligned Left.

Pressing Ctrl+Q after the caption has been inserted does indeed correct the
alignment, however I wish it were inserted as Centered in the first place,
since this is what the Caption style indicates.
You should actually be grateful, since it can be very difficult to type
centered captions in the Caption dialog (where they tend to disappear). Does
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
behave
the same.
 
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PamC via OfficeKB.com

Even though the style is caption, Word changes the alignment of the caption
to match the alignment of the image. That would be considered a convenience
to some. Your fix, if you want to avoid that, is to center the image before
you create the caption by your method or first put the cursor on the next
paragraph mark after the image and then insert the caption.

I apply a style I call "graphic" to images to manage their spacing and
alignment. The settings are usually Space Before: 3 pt, After: 0 pt, Keep
with next, Based on: Body Text.

PamC

I wasn't refering to the style of the paragraph before the insertion, but to
the style Caption - that style is formatted with alignment=Center, and yet
when you insert a caption (in any way possible), its alignment matches the
alignment of the picture rather than the alignment given by the Caption
style. And this isn't a nice feature in my opinion, since I would like my
captions to be formatted as I wanted them to (i.e. according to the style
Caption) rather than to the alignment that the picture happens to have.

Actually, what I would really want is to find a way to change the default
alignment of inserted pictures. If I could make that always be Centered, then
the caption may very well do as it pleases and follow the picture's
alignment, because then they will both be Centered!
Here's what I just found. If the pictures is aligned left, the caption,
when inserted via the right click method, is inserted align left. If the
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PamC via OfficeKB.com

That should have been
Centered, Space Before: 3 pt, After: 0 pt, Keep with next, Based on: Body
Text
Even though the style is caption, Word changes the alignment of the caption
to match the alignment of the image. That would be considered a convenience
to some. Your fix, if you want to avoid that, is to center the image before
you create the caption by your method or first put the cursor on the next
paragraph mark after the image and then insert the caption.

I apply a style I call "graphic" to images to manage their spacing and
alignment. The settings are usually Space Before: 3 pt, After: 0 pt, Keep
with next, Based on: Body Text.

PamC
I wasn't refering to the style of the paragraph before the insertion, but to
the style Caption - that style is formatted with alignment=Center, and yet
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