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Mr.G (@¿@)
HI, if I use CC: instead of just TO: does that stop my bulk mail from
having all the recepiants show up in the mail? thanks
having all the recepiants show up in the mail? thanks
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Peter Foldes
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Gordon
Mr.G (@¿@) said:HI, if I use CC: instead of just TO: does that stop my bulk mail from
having all the recepiants show up in the mail? thanks
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Diane Poremsky [MVP]
no, you need to use BCC to hide the addresses.
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Roady [MVP]
No, use BCC or a mail merge for that.
V
Vanguard
Diane Poremsky said:no, you need to use BCC to hide the addresses.
If recipients have rules that check if they are not specified in the
To or Cc headers (i.e., they can't see it is addressed to them) then
their rules could delete your e-mails so they never get seen by those
recipients. My "Not to me" rule moves all e-mails into the Junk
folder (which is configured using auto-archiving to permanently delete
items older than 3 days) unless my e-mail address for the account
through which the e-mail was received in the To or Cc headers. If it
wasn't addressed specifically to me then I probably don't want it the
exception being for online orders or registration confirmation e-mails
that I'm expecting in a few minutes after the transaction. Also,
hiding the recipients (by using the Bcc header which does not get
included in the sent e-mail) won't bypass any anti-spam quotas at your
e-mail provider, like how many recipients per e-mail are allowed, and
won't circumvent any anti-spam measures at the recipients' mail hosts
or on their hosts.
R
Roady [MVP]
If recipients have rules that check if they are not specified in the To or
Yes, but then the recipient has made the explicit decision to miss out on
all BCC emails to him; the sender of the message shouldn't be bothered with
that. For all I care the recipient has a rule to delete all mail that is
address to him in the "To;" line.
Cc headers (i.e., they can't see it is addressed to them) then their rules
could delete your e-mails so they never get seen by those recipients.
Yes, but then the recipient has made the explicit decision to miss out on
all BCC emails to him; the sender of the message shouldn't be bothered with
that. For all I care the recipient has a rule to delete all mail that is
address to him in the "To;" line.
V
Vanguard
in message
When have you EVER received any e-mail that didn't have you in the To
or Cc headers other than newsletters to which you subscribe or other
opt-in mailings which obviously you should be whitelisting to avoid
them tagged as spam? You should already be whitelisting all your
known senders (i.e., anyone listed in any contact-type folder) and any
other repeated wanted mailings.
So, let's see, you allow any sender using the Bcc to hide your e-mail
address (and other e-mail addresses for an unknown number of
recipients) from whom you never before have received e-mails and from
who you have yet to whitelist? Yes, on the first occurrence for a
subscribed newsletter, confirmation e-mails for registering at a site,
subscribing to a mailing list, online orders then you might not be
listed in the To or Cc headers but then you are expecting an e-mail
from that source that you opted in to receiving their mailings and it
should show up soon after subscribing and why I don't recommend
immediately deleting upon delivery but instead shoving into the Junk
folder and purging items over N days old. You then have the means to
check for the expected e-mails and whitelist them for their future
mailings.
You like to leave your Inbox open to anyone that chooses to use the
Bcc header. I don't. I doubt that I'm alone in this tactic. Most
wizards or even long-time e-mail users will recommend filtering *in*
what you want to keep to avoid or reduce spam. I first blacklist
(block), then I whitelist (filter in), and then I detect spam (filter
out anything not explicitly filtered in). My "Me no in To/Cc" rule is
part of the filter out rules but this particular rule allows for
recovery of one-time mails that I want to keep and may choose to
whitelist (if those wanted mails will repeat). I also use SpamPal
which can automatically whitelist e-mail addresses after receiving
non-spam mail on N separate days (I chose 15 days), but I haven't
bothered using that option yet to filter in those e-mails. I figure
if I want those repeat e-mails that I don't need SpamPal to figure
that out and will simply add the sender to a contact-type folder
(included in a whitelist rule of known senders) or add the sender to a
whitelist rule.
Yes, but then the recipient has made the explicit decision to miss
out on all BCC emails to him; the sender of the message shouldn't be
bothered with that. For all I care the recipient has a rule to
delete all mail that is address to him in the "To;" line.
When have you EVER received any e-mail that didn't have you in the To
or Cc headers other than newsletters to which you subscribe or other
opt-in mailings which obviously you should be whitelisting to avoid
them tagged as spam? You should already be whitelisting all your
known senders (i.e., anyone listed in any contact-type folder) and any
other repeated wanted mailings.
So, let's see, you allow any sender using the Bcc to hide your e-mail
address (and other e-mail addresses for an unknown number of
recipients) from whom you never before have received e-mails and from
who you have yet to whitelist? Yes, on the first occurrence for a
subscribed newsletter, confirmation e-mails for registering at a site,
subscribing to a mailing list, online orders then you might not be
listed in the To or Cc headers but then you are expecting an e-mail
from that source that you opted in to receiving their mailings and it
should show up soon after subscribing and why I don't recommend
immediately deleting upon delivery but instead shoving into the Junk
folder and purging items over N days old. You then have the means to
check for the expected e-mails and whitelist them for their future
mailings.
You like to leave your Inbox open to anyone that chooses to use the
Bcc header. I don't. I doubt that I'm alone in this tactic. Most
wizards or even long-time e-mail users will recommend filtering *in*
what you want to keep to avoid or reduce spam. I first blacklist
(block), then I whitelist (filter in), and then I detect spam (filter
out anything not explicitly filtered in). My "Me no in To/Cc" rule is
part of the filter out rules but this particular rule allows for
recovery of one-time mails that I want to keep and may choose to
whitelist (if those wanted mails will repeat). I also use SpamPal
which can automatically whitelist e-mail addresses after receiving
non-spam mail on N separate days (I chose 15 days), but I haven't
bothered using that option yet to filter in those e-mails. I figure
if I want those repeat e-mails that I don't need SpamPal to figure
that out and will simply add the sender to a contact-type folder
(included in a whitelist rule of known senders) or add the sender to a
whitelist rule.
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