Cells&Table - How to Make Sizing Stick?

[Chull13]

I have had this problem for years and usually just 'force' it to
something close!!
But - when I set a cell to be 100px by 350px I would think it would
be. But the one I have now is closer to being 200px by 350px even
though when the cursor is on the width line it lies and say 100px and
when I look at the cell properties it too lies and says 100px by 350px
- when I put a 100px wide button in this cell it is obvious that the
cell is twice as wide!!
THEN when I try to drag it smaller it almost always makes it larger
rather than smaller!!
ARGG!!
I try to get a Dynamic WebPage setup going for my site.
I was so close with my 1st one with usesing seperate 1 cell tables,
but could not get the last table at the bottom to stick to the bottom.
Sometime it would end up on the right side if a table above it enede
up being higher (deeper)!!
Double Argg!!
Has any one found a way to get Cells or Tables, or some other 'thing'
in their place and make them stay in their place!?!? Shared Borders
worked, but only on the boders and supposedly DWT will do the same
only more and better!
Or at least how do I get Cells to be the actual size that they are set
to?

Thanks!!

 

[Ronx]

The size of a table cell depends on what is in the cell, as well as the rest
of the cells in the table. To solve your question we will need to see a
complete page with the problem - a link to a published page will help.

--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (Expression Web)
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

 

[Chull13]

Thanks for responding to my near rant!
I had another idea - start working from the Bottom up!
If that doesn't do it I'll put a copy out where anyone can look at it.
Before I started with a DWT I was envisioning that it would have place
markers and such were I could just say: "This goes, and stays here,
and this goes and stays there!" and so on! But it seems that a DWT is
just an ordinary HTML page! Oh well!
Thanks again!

 

[Ronx]

"Before I started with a DWT I was envisioning that it would have place
markers and such were I could just say: "This goes, and stays here,
and this goes and stays there!" "

It does!
If you open a page that is attached to a DWT some areas cannot be edited,
and others can. In code view, the non-editable areas have a yellow
background, the editable regions have a white background.

In the DWT itself, everything is editable -and it should be since this is
the template for the rest of the pages. Editable regions are marked (in code
view) by the <!-- #begineditable "regionname" --> editable region <!--
#endeditable --> comments.

Use the DWT to set the fixed elements and layout of the page. This will be
fixed in all the pages.
However - and there is no way round this[1] - if an editable region is in a
table cell, and you fill that region with more content than it's designed to
hold that cell will stretch to accommodate the content.

[1] Actually there is a way round it - it involves introducing scroll bars
and learning some CSS and HTML.

Take a look at
http://any-expression.com/expression-web/ebooks/expression-web-dwt-ebook.htm
Expression web DWTs and FrontPage DWTs are identical.
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (Expression Web)
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

 

[Chull13]

Ronx - Thanks!!
I saw that you are a "Microsoft MVP (Expression Web)" and that got my
brain working again:
1. I relaized - Hey! I'm using Expressions Web NOT FrontPage on that
computer!! Which then made me think:
A. Opps - Posted in Wrong Forum (Sorry), and
B. Let me look around at what EW Might Have!
I found the 'Position' Tool bar and played with it enough to get
the Tables (and to be mention below) Scroll Box to Stick where I tell
them to Stick!! It enter the Code I needed and let me see what I
needed if I needed to code it manually.! I'm sure I can do more with
the Static and Relative to get the bottom table to always be at the
left, bottom and yet flush up to the bottom of what is above it and
yet float downwards as needed - but that is for aanother week day! It
is good enough as is!
2. You suggestion of a scroll box was Great! I had used them years ago
for pop-up pages where I specified a certian width to the page, but I
knew some people would be using larger text - and the Scroll Box took
care of that - And it takes care of the same with my Center Content
Area that is imported? into the DWT.
(Once I find the hack to keep just a few sentances at a fixed font
size that the browzers can't change - I'll be all set to publish my
updated site!!)
When I get it Published I'll post a link

Thanks again Ronx!!

"Before I started with a DWT I was envisioning that it would have place
markers and such were I could just say: "This goes, and stays here,
and this goes and stays there!" "

It does!
If you open a page that is attached to a DWT some areas cannot be edited,
and others can.  In code view, the non-editable areas have a yellow
background, the editable regions have a white background.

In the DWT itself, everything is editable -and it should be since this is
the template for the rest of the pages. Editable regions are marked (in code
view) by the <!-- #begineditable "regionname" --> editable region <!--  
#endeditable -->  comments.

Use the DWT to set the fixed elements and layout of the page.  This will be
fixed in all the pages.
However - and there is no way round this[1] - if an editable region is ina
table cell, and you fill that region with more content than it's designedto
hold that cell will stretch to accommodate the content.

[1] Actually there is a way round it - it involves introducing scroll bars
and learning some CSS and HTML.

Take a look athttp://any-expression.com/expression-web/ebooks/expression-web-dwt-eb...
Expression web DWTs and FrontPage DWTs are identical.
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (Expression Web)http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

Thanks for responding to my near rant!
I had another idea - start working from the Bottom up!
If that doesn't do it I'll put a copy out where anyone can look at it.
Before I started with a DWT I was envisioning that it would have place
markers and such were I could just say: "This goes, and stays here,
and this goes and stays there!" and so on! But it seems that a DWT is
just an ordinary HTML page! Oh well!
Thanks again!

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[Ronx]

"Once I find the hack to keep just a few sentances at a fixed font
size that the browzers can't change "

Will never happen. The only way is to place the text in an image and use
the image. Users can ALWAYS change the size of text.
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (Expression Web)
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

Ronx - Thanks!!
I saw that you are a "Microsoft MVP (Expression Web)" and that got my
brain working again:
1. I relaized - Hey! I'm using Expressions Web NOT FrontPage on that
computer!! Which then made me think:
A. Opps - Posted in Wrong Forum (Sorry), and
B. Let me look around at what EW Might Have!
I found the 'Position' Tool bar and played with it enough to get
the Tables (and to be mention below) Scroll Box to Stick where I tell
them to Stick!! It enter the Code I needed and let me see what I
needed if I needed to code it manually.! I'm sure I can do more with
the Static and Relative to get the bottom table to always be at the
left, bottom and yet flush up to the bottom of what is above it and
yet float downwards as needed - but that is for aanother week day! It
is good enough as is!
2. You suggestion of a scroll box was Great! I had used them years ago
for pop-up pages where I specified a certian width to the page, but I
knew some people would be using larger text - and the Scroll Box took
care of that - And it takes care of the same with my Center Content
Area that is imported? into the DWT.
(Once I find the hack to keep just a few sentances at a fixed font
size that the browzers can't change - I'll be all set to publish my
updated site!!)
When I get it Published I'll post a link

Thanks again Ronx!!

"Before I started with a DWT I was envisioning that it would have place
markers and such were I could just say: "This goes, and stays here,
and this goes and stays there!" "

It does!
If you open a page that is attached to a DWT some areas cannot be edited,
and others can. �In code view, the non-editable areas have a yellow
background, the editable regions have a white background.

In the DWT itself, everything is editable -and it should be since this is
the template for the rest of the pages. Editable regions are marked (in
code
view) by the <!-- #begineditable "regionname" --> editable region <!-- �
#endeditable --> �comments.

Use the DWT to set the fixed elements and layout of the page. �This will
be
fixed in all the pages.
However - and there is no way round this[1] - if an editable region is in
a
table cell, and you fill that region with more content than it's designed
to
hold that cell will stretch to accommodate the content.

[1] Actually there is a way round it - it involves introducing scroll
bars
and learning some CSS and HTML.

Take a look
athttp://any-expression.com/expression-web/ebooks/expression-web-dwt-eb...
Expression web DWTs and FrontPage DWTs are identical.
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (Expression Web)http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

Thanks for responding to my near rant!
I had another idea - start working from the Bottom up!
If that doesn't do it I'll put a copy out where anyone can look at it.
Before I started with a DWT I was envisioning that it would have place
markers and such were I could just say: "This goes, and stays here,
and this goes and stays there!" and so on! But it seems that a DWT is
just an ordinary HTML page! Oh well!
Thanks again!

The size of a table cell depends on what is in the cell, as well as
the
rest
of the cells in the table. To solve your question we will need to see
a
complete page with the problem - a link to a published page will help.

Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

I have had this problem for years and usually just 'force' it to
something close!!
But - when I set a cell to be 100px by 350px I would think it would
be. But the one I have now is closer to being 200px by 350px even
though when the cursor is on the width line it lies and say 100px
and
when I look at the cell properties it too lies and says 100px by
350px
- when I put a 100px wide button in this cell it is obvious that the
cell is twice as wide!!
THEN when I try to drag it smaller it almost always makes it larger
rather than smaller!!
ARGG!!
I try to get a Dynamic WebPage setup going for my site.
I was so close with my 1st one with usesing seperate 1 cell tables,
but could not get the last table at the bottom to stick to the
bottom.
Sometime it would end up on the right side if a table above it enede
up being higher (deeper)!!
Double Argg!!
Has any one found a way to get Cells or Tables, or some other
'thing'
in their place and make them stay in their place!?!? Shared Borders
worked, but only on the boders and supposedly DWT will do the same
only more and better!
Or at least how do I get Cells to be the actual size that they are
set
to?

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