centering website

[ME]

I am looking for some help and constructive criticism please.
www.orangeacresranch.com is my first attempt at a website, and is done as a
favor for my hubby's office.

First - help needed - I'd like to have the entire page centered, so that on
any size screen you don't have to scroll sideways to see it all. I've read
about putting the page in tables for this, but don't understand what it is
that is supposed to be in the tables? Can the shared borders be in table
cells?

Second - criticism - please be gentle. I know the graphics are a little
(lot?) much, but this is what the guys want. I'm not happy with the way the
logo works, or the way the left border looks, and some of the pages need a
lot more info to fill them out-but other than those, please tell me what you
think. This website is not even close to finished, but I'm not seeing it
with fresh eyes anymore.

Thanks so much for any time you take looking at this for me!

 

[Kelli]

Unfortunately, I can't answer your question about the centering thing. I,
too, would be interested in that.

However, I did go look at your site and was impressed with all the scrolling
that you had. I think there is a lot going on, but if that is what your
"client" wants, you really can't do anything about it. I would love to know
how you did it though. I would like to add something where the photos change
on my site.

If you wouldn't mind e-mailing me, I would appreciae it. (e-mail address removed)

Also, about your logo. I think that if you did a drop shadow on the oranges
and then had your text in a higher resolution...or not scaled down so much,
whichever applies to you, it would look GREAT! I like the black and white
background and the oranges in color. Good contrast!

 

[Murray]

Not bad. Some advice -

dump the Java applet. Most of your visitors will just see an ugly gray
box - the Java engine hasn't been installed with Windows since W2K was
released, so if you haven't downloaded and installed it, you won't see
anything. Unfortunately this also means that you will have to reconsider
the hover buttons as well - luckily simple image swaps work wonderfully well
for that effect.

Reconsider the motion - it's quite distracting. Teach your clients - don't
let them 'teach' you. That's why you are doing it instead of them.

You can make your site center by center aligning each outer table - I think
you have two of them. You would do this by changing this -

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
to this -

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"
align="center">

as an example.

 

[DSG]

If you can get at the oranges again, they are stretched eas and west a
little too far. They aren't round any more.
DSG

 

[Ronx]

You can make your site center by center aligning each outer table -

I think you have two of them. You would do this by changing this -

You cannot do that when using shared borders - shared borders place
the entire page into a table structure, with the outermost table
having 100% width, and the user cannot change that.
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Not bad. Some advice -

dump the Java applet. Most of your visitors will just see an ugly
gray box - the Java engine hasn't been installed with Windows since
W2K was released, so if you haven't downloaded and installed it, you
won't see anything. Unfortunately this also means that you will
have to reconsider the hover buttons as well - luckily simple image
swaps work wonderfully well for that effect.

Reconsider the motion - it's quite distracting. Teach your
clients - don't let them 'teach' you. That's why you are doing it
instead of them.

You can make your site center by center aligning each outer table -
I think you have two of them. You would do this by changing this -

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
to this -

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"
align="center">

as an example.

 

[Ronx]

Around a third (perhaps more) of users have their browsers set to
800px wide - 25% of users have a screen resolution of 800x600, and
many others simply open the browser in a small window.
For displaying in a browser window 800px wide, the total width of the
page must be 760px or less.
The top border has a width of over 790px - the width of the banner
image + Java Applet (which does not display) + cellspacing and
borders. The banner could be resized.

The main content is 750px wide, but when added to the left and right
borders plus spacer columns (courtesy FP shared borders) this adds to
considerably more. The slide show needs to be reduced to about 500px
wide.

The best way to center the page is to not use shared borders, use
include pages instead.
See http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/SB-to-IC.htm
Make the main table a fixed with (760px) and align it to the center.

 

[Murray]

Thanks, Ron. I should pay more attention to that markup.

--
Murray
--------------
MVP FrontPage

You can make your site center by center aligning each outer table - I
think you have two of them. You would do this by changing this -

You cannot do that when using shared borders - shared borders place the
entire page into a table structure, with the outermost table having 100%
width, and the user cannot change that.