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Message: [QUOTE="synthesizer_patel, post: 3432204"] Hi! new to the forum :-) I do a lot of scientific graphs for presenting simple biological / chemical data - the scientific standard for all data published in journals is black lines and white background. so when I have a presentation to do which requires around 15-30 charts in it (not uncommon) - it should be a simple matter of changing the default template to reflect this and then go ahead with my charts - well you'd think so wouldn't you? - but can it be done ? - apparently not. even changing the chart colour options to black for all line/plot colours to black - and all background colours to white - saving it then restarting the PC didn't seem to have any effect ps: please don't send me to this thread: [URL]http://www.excelbanter.com/showthread.php?t=31348[/URL] the poster was helpful - but seems to have misunderstood the question that the guy asked- what the instuctions she gave do is change the line/colour settings on a chart you have created BACK to the default settings that are immutably set up within excel (i.e coloured scatter lines and plot symbols, black gridlines, and grey background - the exact opposite of what I need) [/QUOTE]