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Message: [QUOTE="Bob Buckland ?:-\), post: 5533077"] Hi Nan, It's the 'Use AutoFormat' choice not Autolayout you need to turn off. 'Use Autoformat' does not appear on the toolbar it's a right click in the steps in my previous message. ========== Hi Bob Thanks for your answering my post but turning off the AutoLayout doesnt work Here are the steps I take following the books advice Click on the "insert Diagram or Organization Chart" on the Drawing toolbar In the "Diagram Gallery" that pops up - Choose "Organization Chart" Click on "AutoFormat" that is on the organization chart toolbar. Choose the "Bevelled" style. From the toolbar "Select" all connecting lines Display the "Format AutoShape" dialog box and change the line colour to red. Attach arrows to the lines SurfinNan>> [/QUOTE]