Changing to RTF not working

[kevs]

I had a situation that a lot of old files were coming up with the disable
macro box.
So I just convert these to rtf, except one file , even after converting, the
whole file looks like a mess -- all the text is scrunched up next to each
other. The others have been ok thus far. What can I do? Thanks.



OS 10.4.7
Office 2004

 

[John McGhie [MVP Word, Word Mac]]

Hi Kevs:

Nothing. That one relies on the Macro to set up the formatting.

1) Open the document as normal (as a Word document) [Allow the macro to
run!]

2) Open the Organiser and delete any macros and toolbars that you see in
the document itself (NOT from the template!!)

3) Save As a Word document.

Saving as RTF is not a good long-term strategy. It is two to ten times the
size of a Word document, and it doesn't support ALL of the content Word is
capable of putting in a document.

Cheers

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[kevs]

Hi Kevs:

Nothing. That one relies on the Macro to set up the formatting.

1) Open the document as normal (as a Word document) [Allow the macro to
run!]

2) Open the Organiser and delete any macros and toolbars that you see in
the document itself (NOT from the template!!)

3) Save As a Word document.

Saving as RTF is not a good long-term strategy. It is two to ten times the
size of a Word document, and it doesn't support ALL of the content Word is
capable of putting in a document.

Cheers

John:
There was something in the window to right, I deleted it, but it has not
helped, when reopen the file, the macro box still comes up. (if fact after
deleted that (it was just a macro to find links or something), word did not
ask to save the file.
look:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2412/picture1jl6.png
Kevs
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004

 

[John McGhie [MVP Word, Word Mac]]

Hi Kevs:

That warning can mean "Toolbars" or "Keystrokes" or any other customisation.
All the customisations are stored in a single container within the document.
The warning simply means that the container is present, it does not tell
whether there is actually anything in it.

You need to allow that macro to run and the links to update first, otherwise
your content will be all over the place.

If the links "can't" update because you do not have the source, then you
will need to reformat the document.

You can save as RTF after the links have updated to get rid of the warning
if you like. But save the document back as a Word .doc afterwards.

Cheers

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John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. GMT + 10 Hrs
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]

Hi Kevs:

Nothing. That one relies on the Macro to set up the formatting.

1) Open the document as normal (as a Word document) [Allow the macro to
run!]

2) Open the Organiser and delete any macros and toolbars that you see in
the document itself (NOT from the template!!)

3) Save As a Word document.

Saving as RTF is not a good long-term strategy. It is two to ten times
the
size of a Word document, and it doesn't support ALL of the content Word
is
capable of putting in a document.

Cheers

John:
There was something in the window to right, I deleted it, but it has not
helped, when reopen the file, the macro box still comes up. (if fact after
deleted that (it was just a macro to find links or something), word did
not
ask to save the file.
look:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2412/picture1jl6.png
Kevs
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004

 

[kevs]

Hi Kevs:

That warning can mean "Toolbars" or "Keystrokes" or any other customisation.
All the customisations are stored in a single container within the document.
The warning simply means that the container is present, it does not tell
whether there is actually anything in it.

You need to allow that macro to run and the links to update first, otherwise
your content will be all over the place.

If the links "can't" update because you do not have the source, then you will
need to reformat the document.

You can save as RTF after the links have updated to get rid of the warning if
you like. But save the document back as a Word .doc afterwards.

Cheers

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John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. GMT + 10 Hrs
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]

Hi Kevs:

Nothing. That one relies on the Macro to set up the formatting.

1) Open the document as normal (as a Word document) [Allow the macro to
run!]

2) Open the Organiser and delete any macros and toolbars that you see in
the document itself (NOT from the template!!)

3) Save As a Word document.

Saving as RTF is not a good long-term strategy. It is two to ten times
the
size of a Word document, and it doesn't support ALL of the content Word
is
capable of putting in a document.

Cheers

John:
There was something in the window to right, I deleted it, but it has not
helped, when reopen the file, the macro box still comes up. (if fact after
deleted that (it was just a macro to find links or something), word did
not
ask to save the file.
look:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2412/picture1jl6.png
Kevs
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004

Only understood a bit of that John, but in nutshell, I hate this warning and
want to be free of it. So I wiped everyone out last month and redid
everything, creating a new normal, and today, the warning came back with new
documents created! I went back and retried a normal from archives that was
ok. But I would like to be free of this warning once and for all.

Still not clear on how to get it out of certain files. I was taught here to
just make an rtf, but now I have an rtf conversion that look like hell for
some reason, the rtf method was working well.


OS 10.4.7
Office 2004

 

[kevs]

Hi Kevs:

That warning can mean "Toolbars" or "Keystrokes" or any other customisation.
All the customisations are stored in a single container within the document.
The warning simply means that the container is present, it does not tell
whether there is actually anything in it.

You need to allow that macro to run and the links to update first, otherwise
your content will be all over the place.

If the links "can't" update because you do not have the source, then you will
need to reformat the document.

You can save as RTF after the links have updated to get rid of the warning if
you like. But save the document back as a Word .doc afterwards.

Cheers

--

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John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. GMT + 10 Hrs
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]

Hi Kevs:

Nothing. That one relies on the Macro to set up the formatting.

1) Open the document as normal (as a Word document) [Allow the macro to
run!]

2) Open the Organiser and delete any macros and toolbars that you see in
the document itself (NOT from the template!!)

3) Save As a Word document.

Saving as RTF is not a good long-term strategy. It is two to ten times
the
size of a Word document, and it doesn't support ALL of the content Word
is
capable of putting in a document.

Cheers

John:
There was something in the window to right, I deleted it, but it has not
helped, when reopen the file, the macro box still comes up. (if fact after
deleted that (it was just a macro to find links or something), word did
not
ask to save the file.
look:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2412/picture1jl6.png
Kevs
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004

Oh, the torture continues, one document that has warning, just by asking it
to run macros and now ruined my normal, and all new document have this
warning.
Change to rtf, fine, but when changed that rtf to a word file, I get torture
again. HELP!!!!!!!


OS 10.4.7
Office 2004

 

[John McGhie [MVP Word, Word Mac]]

Kevs:

I need to see what's doing it. I think you might have a virus that is
copying itself into the Normal template each time you open a document
containing it.

Email me a copy of that document and I'll have a look. (.zip or .sit,
please).

Put the following password into the subject, to make sure you get through
the Spam filter: "emgTDXwiHHA"

Immediately after you send it, send me a plain text email saying that you
have sent it. If the document really does have a virus in it, the antivirus
on my mail server will delete the first email. Then we will KNOW what the
problem is

Cheers

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John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. GMT + 10 Hrs
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]

Hi Kevs:

That warning can mean "Toolbars" or "Keystrokes" or any other
customisation.
All the customisations are stored in a single container within the
document.
The warning simply means that the container is present, it does not tell
whether there is actually anything in it.

You need to allow that macro to run and the links to update first,
otherwise
your content will be all over the place.

If the links "can't" update because you do not have the source, then you
will
need to reformat the document.

You can save as RTF after the links have updated to get rid of the
warning if
you like. But save the document back as a Word .doc afterwards.

Cheers

--

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John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. GMT + 10 Hrs
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]

On 4/29/07 6:10 PM, in article (e-mail address removed),
"John

Hi Kevs:

Nothing. That one relies on the Macro to set up the formatting.

1) Open the document as normal (as a Word document) [Allow the macro
to
run!]

2) Open the Organiser and delete any macros and toolbars that you see
in
the document itself (NOT from the template!!)

3) Save As a Word document.

Saving as RTF is not a good long-term strategy. It is two to ten times
the
size of a Word document, and it doesn't support ALL of the content Word
is
capable of putting in a document.

Cheers
John:
There was something in the window to right, I deleted it, but it has not
helped, when reopen the file, the macro box still comes up. (if fact
after
deleted that (it was just a macro to find links or something), word did
not
ask to save the file.
look:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2412/picture1jl6.png
Kevs
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004

Oh, the torture continues, one document that has warning, just by asking
it
to run macros and now ruined my normal, and all new document have this
warning.
Change to rtf, fine, but when changed that rtf to a word file, I get
torture
again. HELP!!!!!!!


OS 10.4.7
Office 2004

 

[kevs]

emgTDXwiHHA

Ok John, I will send you both the word file, and the rtf made from the word
file.
I wonder how it could have virus as it was created by me at home on a closed
system.
Kevs


OS 10.4.7
Office 2004

 

[John McGhie [MVP Word, Word Mac]]

Kevs:

It probably can't have a virus. Which is why I want to look at it.

I think it has customised toolbars or keystrokes. That will trigger the
"Virus Warning".

All the Virus Warning means is that "The container into which macro code can
be stored exists in this document." The warning mechanism does not look
inside the container to see if there is really any code in there, it just
reports whenever the container exists.

So it cannot give a false negative, but it frequently gives false positives.

Cheers

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[kevs]

Kevs:

It probably can't have a virus. Which is why I want to look at it.

I think it has customised toolbars or keystrokes. That will trigger the
"Virus Warning".

All the Virus Warning means is that "The container into which macro code can
be stored exists in this document." The warning mechanism does not look
inside the container to see if there is really any code in there, it just
reports whenever the container exists.

So it cannot give a false negative, but it frequently gives false positives.

Cheers

John I sent it two days ago, did you get it?


OS 10.4.7
Office 2004

 

[John McGhie [MVP Word, Word Mac]]

Hi Kevs:

No, I haven't seen anything from you yet. Did you follow the instructions
in my post EXACTLY?

Cheers

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[kevs]

Hi Kevs:

No, I haven't seen anything from you yet. Did you follow the instructions
in my post EXACTLY?

Cheers

Ok John, what I'm going to do know is if this happens again, just copy and
paste to a new word file and destroy the old one. Good idea?




OS 10.4.7
Office 2004

 

[John McGhie [MVP Word, Word Mac]]

Hi Kevs:

No.

I feel that you have not been reading what I have been saying.

Copying the text of a document and pasting to a new one will probably have
no effect at all on the problem you are reporting. If you have the problem
I suspect that you have, the problem is not in that particular file (not in
the old document) so your strategy will have no effect at all.

If your strategy works (i.e. the dialog goes away) then the problem WAS in
the document. If it was in the document, the much more urgent problem is
"How did it get there?" Unless you put a macro in your document, that would
indicate that there is a self-replicating macro virus lose in your computer.
These can be dangerous. Even on a Mac

Cheers

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