Classic 98-XP style menus in Office 2007 -where are they?

[Matthew]

Lovely, everything is all over the place , hidden, and not in the least
intuitive.
Ribbon is pre-school and Kindergarden at best. Just fustrating.

So how do I get to the classic menu driven menus in Office 2007 ?
I've got work to do, and need a common/familiar interface as a foundation in
which to transition to.

Help...

 

[JoAnn Paules]

You can't. I would suggest getting a helpful book and start from there. I've
been reviewing the "Missing Manual" series by Pogue Press. I really like
them. They are written in plain English (no geek-speak) but not as cutesy as
some of the Dummies books.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375

 

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

You can't. 2007 has a completely new user interface and you'll have to
learn to live with it, or go back to an older version.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
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[Matthew]

So absolutley no consideration for what would be regarded as in your
perception backward user compatibility or interoperability? Been using
Office since it's inception this is the first time it has been so redesgined
as to be ambiguous and aleinate experienced/seasoned users. The statement
"..get used to it" is very closed minded for software by definition which
should be user freindly. Especially to a core (long term) constituency.

If a comparision can be drawn from those of us who migrated from Lotus 123
to Excel in the day, still found a support foundation for change with the
incorporation of of 123 Menu key strokes and formual translations. So why not
the same support foundation from Menu driven to Ribbon driven functionality?

You can't. 2007 has a completely new user interface and you'll have to
learn to live with it, or go back to an older version.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

Lovely, everything is all over the place , hidden, and not in the least
intuitive.
Ribbon is pre-school and Kindergarden at best. Just fustrating.

So how do I get to the classic menu driven menus in Office 2007 ?
I've got work to do, and need a common/familiar interface as a foundation in
which to transition to.

Help...

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

"The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for software by definition which
should be user freindly. Especially to a core (long term) constituency."

Welcome to Apple OS X.xxx

Must be nice living where nothing ever changes and the Chevy Nova is still the epitomy of car design.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Matthew asked:

| So absolutley no consideration for what would be regarded as in your
| perception backward user compatibility or interoperability? Been
| using Office since it's inception this is the first time it has been
| so redesgined as to be ambiguous and aleinate experienced/seasoned
| users. The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for
| software by definition which should be user freindly. Especially to a
| core (long term) constituency.
|
| If a comparision can be drawn from those of us who migrated from
| Lotus 123 to Excel in the day, still found a support foundation for
| change with the incorporation of of 123 Menu key strokes and formual
| translations. So why not the same support foundation from Menu driven
| to Ribbon driven functionality?
|
|
|
|
|
|
| "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
|
|| You can't. 2007 has a completely new user interface and you'll have
|| to learn to live with it, or go back to an older version.
||
|| Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
|| --------------
|| http://pschmid.net
|| ***
|| Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
|| ***
|| Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
|| RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
|| http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007:
|| http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote ***
|| Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
||
|| ||
||| Lovely, everything is all over the place , hidden, and not in the
||| least intuitive.
||| Ribbon is pre-school and Kindergarden at best. Just fustrating.
|||
||| So how do I get to the classic menu driven menus in Office 2007 ?
||| I've got work to do, and need a common/familiar interface as a
||| foundation in which to transition to.
|||
||| Help...

 

[JoAnn Paules]

You have to admit that the lines of a '69 Chevy Nova were pretty nice. Alas
and alack, times move on.


--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375



"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
"The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for software by
definition which
should be user freindly. Especially to a core (long term) constituency."

Welcome to Apple OS X.xxx

Must be nice living where nothing ever changes and the Chevy Nova is still
the epitomy of car design.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Matthew asked:

| So absolutley no consideration for what would be regarded as in your
| perception backward user compatibility or interoperability? Been
| using Office since it's inception this is the first time it has been
| so redesgined as to be ambiguous and aleinate experienced/seasoned
| users. The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for
| software by definition which should be user freindly. Especially to a
| core (long term) constituency.
|
| If a comparision can be drawn from those of us who migrated from
| Lotus 123 to Excel in the day, still found a support foundation for
| change with the incorporation of of 123 Menu key strokes and formual
| translations. So why not the same support foundation from Menu driven
| to Ribbon driven functionality?
|
|
|
|
|
|
| "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
|
|| You can't. 2007 has a completely new user interface and you'll have
|| to learn to live with it, or go back to an older version.
||
|| Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
|| --------------
|| http://pschmid.net
|| ***
|| Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
|| ***
|| Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
|| RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
|| http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007:
|| http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote ***
|| Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
||
|| ||
||| Lovely, everything is all over the place , hidden, and not in the
||| least intuitive.
||| Ribbon is pre-school and Kindergarden at best. Just fustrating.
|||
||| So how do I get to the classic menu driven menus in Office 2007 ?
||| I've got work to do, and need a common/familiar interface as a
||| foundation in which to transition to.
|||
||| Help...

 

[Harlan Grove]

So absolutley no consideration for what would be regarded as in your
perception backward user compatibility or interoperability? Been
using Office since it's inception this is the first time it has been
so redesgined as to be ambiguous and aleinate experienced/seasoned
users. . . .

Not an Office upgrade per se, but the Excel 4 to Excel 5 upgrade
introduced a radically redesigned menu. IIRC, Excel 5 was part of the
original Office suite, so you might have missed this change. The goal
then was to make all the Office applications more similar.

. . . The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for
software by definition which should be user freindly. Especially to
a core (long term) constituency.

Seems like you've already upgraded without having paid much if any
attention to the rather conspicuous changes. Microsoft very likely
correctly figures that most people will be upgraded without any choice
in the matter (most business users), and the rest will upgrade home/
personal copies over time to keep in sync with work. Unless and until
there's serious competition (or the perception dawns that 80-90% of
current Office users need nothing more than Works or OpenOffice),
Microsoft has very little to fear.

If a comparision can be drawn from those of us who migrated from
Lotus 123 to Excel in the day, still found a support foundation for
change with the incorporation of of 123 Menu key strokes and formual
translations. . . .

The 123 Release 2.01 menu, which became obsolete in 1989, and which
was discontinued in Excel 2003? Microsoft has a track record of
eliminating features that have outlived their useful lifetime as
Microsoft sees it.

. . . So why not the same support foundation from Menu driven to
Ribbon driven functionality?

....

Because the ribbon makes it harder for OpenOffice to compete *IF*
Microsoft guessed right. If you REALLY mean you don't like Office
2007, revert to your previous version, and try to return Office 2007
for your money back.

 

[Matthew]

Hmm... I don't know where the need to depict me as in furiously head
scraching nor the urge to depict me as living in a world where nothing ever
changes and the Chevy Nova is still the epitomy of car design?

Just asked how I could get help with what seemd a simple request in enabling
the classic office menu system in Office 2007 as a basis for transition and
adaptabilty. Unfortunately there appears to be no good answer for this and I
must have touched upon an area where there is some sensitivity.

Nonetheless I did get my answer .. thanks for the clarification.

"The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for software by definition which
should be user freindly. Especially to a core (long term) constituency."

Welcome to Apple OS X.xxx

Must be nice living where nothing ever changes and the Chevy Nova is still the epitomy of car design.


--Â
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Matthew asked:

| So absolutley no consideration for what would be regarded as in your
| perception backward user compatibility or interoperability? Been
| using Office since it's inception this is the first time it has been
| so redesgined as to be ambiguous and aleinate experienced/seasoned
| users. The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for
| software by definition which should be user freindly. Especially to a
| core (long term) constituency.
|
| If a comparision can be drawn from those of us who migrated from
| Lotus 123 to Excel in the day, still found a support foundation for
| change with the incorporation of of 123 Menu key strokes and formual
| translations. So why not the same support foundation from Menu driven
| to Ribbon driven functionality?
|
|
|
|
|
|
| "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
|
|| You can't. 2007 has a completely new user interface and you'll have
|| to learn to live with it, or go back to an older version.
||
|| Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
|| --------------
|| http://pschmid.net
|| ***
|| Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
|| ***
|| Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
|| RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
|| http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007:
|| http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote ***
|| Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
||
|| ||
||| Lovely, everything is all over the place , hidden, and not in the
||| least intuitive.
||| Ribbon is pre-school and Kindergarden at best. Just fustrating.
|||
||| So how do I get to the classic menu driven menus in Office 2007 ?
||| I've got work to do, and need a common/familiar interface as a
||| foundation in which to transition to.
|||
||| Help...

 

[Harlan Grove]

...
....

Welcome to Apple OS X.xxx

Or Windows 3.x to Windows 95. But Microsoft still provided Program
Manager and File Manager in Windows 95. And doesn't OS X provide a
Classic facility to run OS 9 software?

Must be nice living where nothing ever changes and the Chevy Nova
is still the epitomy of car design.

....

Poor analogy. More like replacing the dashboard with a heads-up
display with the BIG difference that other new model cars with
dashboard interfaces are still available for purchase.

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

If you surmised that there is no Office 2003 or prior customization, then you are correct.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Matthew asked:

| Hmm... I don't know where the need to depict me as in furiously head
| scraching nor the urge to depict me as living in a world where
| nothing ever changes and the Chevy Nova is still the epitomy of car
| design?
|
| Just asked how I could get help with what seemd a simple request in
| enabling the classic office menu system in Office 2007 as a basis for
| transition and adaptabilty. Unfortunately there appears to be no good
| answer for this and I must have touched upon an area where there is
| some sensitivity.
|
| Nonetheless I did get my answer .. thanks for the clarification.
|
|
|
| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| "The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for software
|| by definition which
|| should be user freindly. Especially to a core (long term)
|| constituency."
||
|| Welcome to Apple OS X.xxx
||
|| Must be nice living where nothing ever changes and the Chevy Nova is
|| still the epitomy of car design.
||
||
|| --Â
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, Matthew asked:
||
||| So absolutley no consideration for what would be regarded as in your
||| perception backward user compatibility or interoperability? Been
||| using Office since it's inception this is the first time it has been
||| so redesgined as to be ambiguous and aleinate experienced/seasoned
||| users. The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for
||| software by definition which should be user freindly. Especially to
||| a core (long term) constituency.
|||
||| If a comparision can be drawn from those of us who migrated from
||| Lotus 123 to Excel in the day, still found a support foundation for
||| change with the incorporation of of 123 Menu key strokes and formual
||| translations. So why not the same support foundation from Menu
||| driven to Ribbon driven functionality?
|||
|||
|||
|||
|||
|||
||| "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
|||
|||| You can't. 2007 has a completely new user interface and you'll have
|||| to learn to live with it, or go back to an older version.
||||
|||| Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
|||| --------------
|||| http://pschmid.net
|||| ***
|||| Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
|||| ***
|||| Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
|||| RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
|||| http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007:
|||| http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote ***
|||| Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
||||
|||| ||||
||||| Lovely, everything is all over the place , hidden, and not in the
||||| least intuitive.
||||| Ribbon is pre-school and Kindergarden at best. Just fustrating.
|||||
||||| So how do I get to the classic menu driven menus in Office 2007 ?
||||| I've got work to do, and need a common/familiar interface as a
||||| foundation in which to transition to.
|||||
||||| Help...

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Matthew,

Quite a few of the Alt and Ctrl key combinations from the older versions of the
Office apps work in the 2007 versions.
For example, in Word Alt, T, O will still take you to the Options dialog,
Ctrl+B will still toggle 'bold' etc. You can use the blue question mark in the
apps on keyboard shortcuts to get a listing of the old vs the new, and a link to
an interactive page at Office online for the 'where did they move xxx to'.

=============So absolutley no consideration for what would be regarded as in your
perception backward user compatibility or interoperability? Been using
Office since it's inception this is the first time it has been so redesgined
as to be ambiguous and aleinate experienced/seasoned users. The statement
"..get used to it" is very closed minded for software by definition which
should be user freindly. Especially to a core (long term) constituency.

If a comparision can be drawn from those of us who migrated from Lotus 123
to Excel in the day, still found a support foundation for change with the
incorporation of of 123 Menu key strokes and formual translations. So why not
the same support foundation from Menu driven to Ribbon driven functionality? >>
--
I hope this has been helpful to you,

Bob Buckland ?
Microsoft MVP, Office products family

*courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

 

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

In Millie's posts, *everyone* scratches their heads furiously.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375

Hmm... I don't know where the need to depict me as in furiously head
scraching nor the urge to depict me as living in a world where nothing
ever
changes and the Chevy Nova is still the epitomy of car design?

Just asked how I could get help with what seemd a simple request in
enabling
the classic office menu system in Office 2007 as a basis for transition
and
adaptabilty. Unfortunately there appears to be no good answer for this and
I
must have touched upon an area where there is some sensitivity.

Nonetheless I did get my answer .. thanks for the clarification.

"The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for software by
definition which
should be user freindly. Especially to a core (long term) constituency."

Welcome to Apple OS X.xxx

Must be nice living where nothing ever changes and the Chevy Nova is
still the epitomy of car design.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Matthew asked:

| So absolutley no consideration for what would be regarded as in your
| perception backward user compatibility or interoperability? Been
| using Office since it's inception this is the first time it has been
| so redesgined as to be ambiguous and aleinate experienced/seasoned
| users. The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for
| software by definition which should be user freindly. Especially to a
| core (long term) constituency.
|
| If a comparision can be drawn from those of us who migrated from
| Lotus 123 to Excel in the day, still found a support foundation for
| change with the incorporation of of 123 Menu key strokes and formual
| translations. So why not the same support foundation from Menu driven
| to Ribbon driven functionality?
|
|
|
|
|
|
| "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
|
|| You can't. 2007 has a completely new user interface and you'll have
|| to learn to live with it, or go back to an older version.
||
|| Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
|| --------------
|| http://pschmid.net
|| ***
|| Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
|| ***
|| Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
|| RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
|| http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007:
|| http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote ***
|| Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
||
|| ||
||| Lovely, everything is all over the place , hidden, and not in the
||| least intuitive.
||| Ribbon is pre-school and Kindergarden at best. Just fustrating.
|||
||| So how do I get to the classic menu driven menus in Office 2007 ?
||| I've got work to do, and need a common/familiar interface as a
||| foundation in which to transition to.
|||
||| Help...

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

Especially when they spell my name wrong!

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:

| In Millie's posts, *everyone* scratches their heads furiously.
|
|
| || Hmm... I don't know where the need to depict me as in furiously head
|| scraching nor the urge to depict me as living in a world where
|| nothing ever
|| changes and the Chevy Nova is still the epitomy of car design?
||
|| Just asked how I could get help with what seemd a simple request in
|| enabling
|| the classic office menu system in Office 2007 as a basis for
|| transition and
|| adaptabilty. Unfortunately there appears to be no good answer for
|| this and I
|| must have touched upon an area where there is some sensitivity.
||
|| Nonetheless I did get my answer .. thanks for the clarification.
||
||
||
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
||
||| "The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for
||| software by definition which
||| should be user freindly. Especially to a core (long term)
||| constituency."
|||
||| Welcome to Apple OS X.xxx
|||
||| Must be nice living where nothing ever changes and the Chevy Nova is
||| still the epitomy of car design.
|||
|||
||| --
||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
|||
||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
||| reading.
|||
||| After furious head scratching, Matthew asked:
|||
|||| So absolutley no consideration for what would be regarded as in
|||| your perception backward user compatibility or interoperability?
|||| Been using Office since it's inception this is the first time it
|||| has been so redesgined as to be ambiguous and aleinate
|||| experienced/seasoned users. The statement "..get used to it" is
|||| very closed minded for software by definition which should be user
|||| freindly. Especially to a core (long term) constituency.
||||
|||| If a comparision can be drawn from those of us who migrated from
|||| Lotus 123 to Excel in the day, still found a support foundation
|||| for change with the incorporation of of 123 Menu key strokes and
|||| formual translations. So why not the same support foundation from
|||| Menu driven to Ribbon driven functionality?
||||
||||
||||
||||
||||
||||
|||| "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
||||
||||| You can't. 2007 has a completely new user interface and you'll
||||| have to learn to live with it, or go back to an older version.
|||||
||||| Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
||||| --------------
||||| http://pschmid.net
||||| ***
||||| Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
||||| ***
||||| Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
||||| RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
||||| http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007:
||||| http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote ***
||||| Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
|||||
||||| |||||
|||||| Lovely, everything is all over the place , hidden, and not in the
|||||| least intuitive.
|||||| Ribbon is pre-school and Kindergarden at best. Just fustrating.
||||||
|||||| So how do I get to the classic menu driven menus in Office 2007 ?
|||||| I've got work to do, and need a common/familiar interface as a
|||||| foundation in which to transition to.
||||||
|||||| Help...

 

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

Oh geez! I guess I'm scratching my head with a porcupine.

One thousand pardons, dear Milly.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
Especially when they spell my name wrong!

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:

| In Millie's posts, *everyone* scratches their heads furiously.
|
|
| || Hmm... I don't know where the need to depict me as in furiously head
|| scraching nor the urge to depict me as living in a world where
|| nothing ever
|| changes and the Chevy Nova is still the epitomy of car design?
||
|| Just asked how I could get help with what seemd a simple request in
|| enabling
|| the classic office menu system in Office 2007 as a basis for
|| transition and
|| adaptabilty. Unfortunately there appears to be no good answer for
|| this and I
|| must have touched upon an area where there is some sensitivity.
||
|| Nonetheless I did get my answer .. thanks for the clarification.
||
||
||
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
||
||| "The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for
||| software by definition which
||| should be user freindly. Especially to a core (long term)
||| constituency."
|||
||| Welcome to Apple OS X.xxx
|||
||| Must be nice living where nothing ever changes and the Chevy Nova is
||| still the epitomy of car design.
|||
|||
||| --
||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
|||
||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
||| reading.
|||
||| After furious head scratching, Matthew asked:
|||
|||| So absolutley no consideration for what would be regarded as in
|||| your perception backward user compatibility or interoperability?
|||| Been using Office since it's inception this is the first time it
|||| has been so redesgined as to be ambiguous and aleinate
|||| experienced/seasoned users. The statement "..get used to it" is
|||| very closed minded for software by definition which should be user
|||| freindly. Especially to a core (long term) constituency.
||||
|||| If a comparision can be drawn from those of us who migrated from
|||| Lotus 123 to Excel in the day, still found a support foundation
|||| for change with the incorporation of of 123 Menu key strokes and
|||| formual translations. So why not the same support foundation from
|||| Menu driven to Ribbon driven functionality?
||||
||||
||||
||||
||||
||||
|||| "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
||||
||||| You can't. 2007 has a completely new user interface and you'll
||||| have to learn to live with it, or go back to an older version.
|||||
||||| Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
||||| --------------
||||| http://pschmid.net
||||| ***
||||| Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
||||| ***
||||| Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
||||| RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
||||| http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007:
||||| http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote ***
||||| Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
|||||
||||| |||||
|||||| Lovely, everything is all over the place , hidden, and not in the
|||||| least intuitive.
|||||| Ribbon is pre-school and Kindergarden at best. Just fustrating.
||||||
|||||| So how do I get to the classic menu driven menus in Office 2007 ?
|||||| I've got work to do, and need a common/familiar interface as a
|||||| foundation in which to transition to.
||||||
|||||| Help...

 

[georgetok]

Lovely, everything is all over the place , hidden, and not in the least
intuitive.
Ribbon is pre-school and Kindergarden at best. Just fustrating.

So how do I get to the classic menu driven menus in Office 2007 ?
I've got work to do, and need a common/familiar interface as a
foundation in
which to transition to.

Help...

Matthew,

I am in the same boat & when I installed 2007 & looked at it, it looked
nothing more than the new interface that takes up half the screen space
and makes your life difficult for even small tasks. If MS calls this a
user friendly, I calll it MS Friendly, something that puts mucho $$$$
in their pocket.

Yes, you can go back to 2003 but all newer versions after 2007 will
have similar interface to 2007 so sooner or later we are going to have
to switch. So I decided to put up with it right now, rather than when I
have grey hair & trouble remembering even my own name.

Also a question for all MVPs, that I posted before & nobody has an
answer yet.

It is the color scheme.

Here is the link to it.


http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=658007

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

That's okay - I will catch up with you next month!

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:

| Oh geez! I guess I'm scratching my head with a porcupine.
|
| One thousand pardons, dear Milly.
|
|
|| In Millie's posts, *everyone* scratches their heads furiously.
||
||
|| ||| Hmm... I don't know where the need to depict me as in furiously head
||| scraching nor the urge to depict me as living in a world where
||| nothing ever
||| changes and the Chevy Nova is still the epitomy of car design?
|||
||| Just asked how I could get help with what seemd a simple request in
||| enabling
||| the classic office menu system in Office 2007 as a basis for
||| transition and
||| adaptabilty. Unfortunately there appears to be no good answer for
||| this and I
||| must have touched upon an area where there is some sensitivity.
|||
||| Nonetheless I did get my answer .. thanks for the clarification.
|||
|||
|||
||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|||
|||| "The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for
|||| software by definition which
|||| should be user freindly. Especially to a core (long term)
|||| constituency."
||||
|||| Welcome to Apple OS X.xxx
||||
|||| Must be nice living where nothing ever changes and the Chevy Nova
|||| is still the epitomy of car design.
||||
||||
|||| --
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, Matthew asked:
||||
||||| So absolutley no consideration for what would be regarded as in
||||| your perception backward user compatibility or interoperability?
||||| Been using Office since it's inception this is the first time it
||||| has been so redesgined as to be ambiguous and aleinate
||||| experienced/seasoned users. The statement "..get used to it" is
||||| very closed minded for software by definition which should be user
||||| freindly. Especially to a core (long term) constituency.
|||||
||||| If a comparision can be drawn from those of us who migrated from
||||| Lotus 123 to Excel in the day, still found a support foundation
||||| for change with the incorporation of of 123 Menu key strokes and
||||| formual translations. So why not the same support foundation from
||||| Menu driven to Ribbon driven functionality?
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
||||| "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
|||||
|||||| You can't. 2007 has a completely new user interface and you'll
|||||| have to learn to live with it, or go back to an older version.
||||||
|||||| Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
|||||| --------------
|||||| http://pschmid.net
|||||| ***
|||||| Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
|||||| ***
|||||| Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
|||||| RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
|||||| http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007:
|||||| http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote ***
|||||| Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
||||||
|||||| ||||||
||||||| Lovely, everything is all over the place , hidden, and not in
||||||| the least intuitive.
||||||| Ribbon is pre-school and Kindergarden at best. Just fustrating.
|||||||
||||||| So how do I get to the classic menu driven menus in Office 2007
||||||| ? I've got work to do, and need a common/familiar interface as a
||||||| foundation in which to transition to.
|||||||
||||||| Help...

 

[Paul Ballou]

And doesn't OS X provide a

Classic facility to run OS 9 software?

==========================
I have it on my version of OSX but don't use it unless I launch IE which
is..., well actually I can't remember when the last time I launched it on my
Mac
I believe they have removed it from OS X running on newer systems

--
Paul Ballou
MVP Office
http://office.microsoft.com/home
http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/
http://www.ballousgiftshop.com

 

[JoAnn Paules]

I haven't gone public with this yet but I won't be there. :-(


--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
That's okay - I will catch up with you next month!

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:

| Oh geez! I guess I'm scratching my head with a porcupine.
|
| One thousand pardons, dear Milly.
|
|
|| In Millie's posts, *everyone* scratches their heads furiously.
||
||
|| ||| Hmm... I don't know where the need to depict me as in furiously head
||| scraching nor the urge to depict me as living in a world where
||| nothing ever
||| changes and the Chevy Nova is still the epitomy of car design?
|||
||| Just asked how I could get help with what seemd a simple request in
||| enabling
||| the classic office menu system in Office 2007 as a basis for
||| transition and
||| adaptabilty. Unfortunately there appears to be no good answer for
||| this and I
||| must have touched upon an area where there is some sensitivity.
|||
||| Nonetheless I did get my answer .. thanks for the clarification.
|||
|||
|||
||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|||
|||| "The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for
|||| software by definition which
|||| should be user freindly. Especially to a core (long term)
|||| constituency."
||||
|||| Welcome to Apple OS X.xxx
||||
|||| Must be nice living where nothing ever changes and the Chevy Nova
|||| is still the epitomy of car design.
||||
||||
|||| --
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, Matthew asked:
||||
||||| So absolutley no consideration for what would be regarded as in
||||| your perception backward user compatibility or interoperability?
||||| Been using Office since it's inception this is the first time it
||||| has been so redesgined as to be ambiguous and aleinate
||||| experienced/seasoned users. The statement "..get used to it" is
||||| very closed minded for software by definition which should be user
||||| freindly. Especially to a core (long term) constituency.
|||||
||||| If a comparision can be drawn from those of us who migrated from
||||| Lotus 123 to Excel in the day, still found a support foundation
||||| for change with the incorporation of of 123 Menu key strokes and
||||| formual translations. So why not the same support foundation from
||||| Menu driven to Ribbon driven functionality?
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
||||| "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
|||||
|||||| You can't. 2007 has a completely new user interface and you'll
|||||| have to learn to live with it, or go back to an older version.
||||||
|||||| Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
|||||| --------------
|||||| http://pschmid.net
|||||| ***
|||||| Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
|||||| ***
|||||| Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
|||||| RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
|||||| http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007:
|||||| http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote ***
|||||| Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
||||||
|||||| ||||||
||||||| Lovely, everything is all over the place , hidden, and not in
||||||| the least intuitive.
||||||| Ribbon is pre-school and Kindergarden at best. Just fustrating.
|||||||
||||||| So how do I get to the classic menu driven menus in Office 2007
||||||| ? I've got work to do, and need a common/familiar interface as a
||||||| foundation in which to transition to.
|||||||
||||||| Help...

 

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

Are you serious?!?!

I haven't gone public with this yet but I won't be there. :-(


--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
That's okay - I will catch up with you next month!

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:

| Oh geez! I guess I'm scratching my head with a porcupine.
|
| One thousand pardons, dear Milly.
|
|
|| In Millie's posts, *everyone* scratches their heads furiously.
||
||
|| ||| Hmm... I don't know where the need to depict me as in furiously head
||| scraching nor the urge to depict me as living in a world where
||| nothing ever
||| changes and the Chevy Nova is still the epitomy of car design?
|||
||| Just asked how I could get help with what seemd a simple request in
||| enabling
||| the classic office menu system in Office 2007 as a basis for
||| transition and
||| adaptabilty. Unfortunately there appears to be no good answer for
||| this and I
||| must have touched upon an area where there is some sensitivity.
|||
||| Nonetheless I did get my answer .. thanks for the clarification.
|||
|||
|||
||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|||
|||| "The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for
|||| software by definition which
|||| should be user freindly. Especially to a core (long term)
|||| constituency."
||||
|||| Welcome to Apple OS X.xxx
||||
|||| Must be nice living where nothing ever changes and the Chevy Nova
|||| is still the epitomy of car design.
||||
||||
|||| --
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, Matthew asked:
||||
||||| So absolutley no consideration for what would be regarded as in
||||| your perception backward user compatibility or interoperability?
||||| Been using Office since it's inception this is the first time it
||||| has been so redesgined as to be ambiguous and aleinate
||||| experienced/seasoned users. The statement "..get used to it" is
||||| very closed minded for software by definition which should be user
||||| freindly. Especially to a core (long term) constituency.
|||||
||||| If a comparision can be drawn from those of us who migrated from
||||| Lotus 123 to Excel in the day, still found a support foundation
||||| for change with the incorporation of of 123 Menu key strokes and
||||| formual translations. So why not the same support foundation from
||||| Menu driven to Ribbon driven functionality?
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
||||| "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
|||||
|||||| You can't. 2007 has a completely new user interface and you'll
|||||| have to learn to live with it, or go back to an older version.
||||||
|||||| Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
|||||| --------------
|||||| http://pschmid.net
|||||| ***
|||||| Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
|||||| ***
|||||| Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
|||||| RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
|||||| http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007:
|||||| http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote ***
|||||| Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
||||||
|||||| ||||||
||||||| Lovely, everything is all over the place , hidden, and not in
||||||| the least intuitive.
||||||| Ribbon is pre-school and Kindergarden at best. Just fustrating.
|||||||
||||||| So how do I get to the classic menu driven menus in Office 2007
||||||| ? I've got work to do, and need a common/familiar interface as a
||||||| foundation in which to transition to.
|||||||
||||||| Help...

 

[JoAnn Paules]

Unfortunately, yes. I had to cancel my reservations this past Sunday.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375

Are you serious?!?!

I haven't gone public with this yet but I won't be there. :-(


--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
That's okay - I will catch up with you next month!

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:

| Oh geez! I guess I'm scratching my head with a porcupine.
|
| One thousand pardons, dear Milly.
|
|
|| In Millie's posts, *everyone* scratches their heads furiously.
||
||
|| ||| Hmm... I don't know where the need to depict me as in furiously head
||| scraching nor the urge to depict me as living in a world where
||| nothing ever
||| changes and the Chevy Nova is still the epitomy of car design?
|||
||| Just asked how I could get help with what seemd a simple request in
||| enabling
||| the classic office menu system in Office 2007 as a basis for
||| transition and
||| adaptabilty. Unfortunately there appears to be no good answer for
||| this and I
||| must have touched upon an area where there is some sensitivity.
|||
||| Nonetheless I did get my answer .. thanks for the clarification.
|||
|||
|||
||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|||
|||| "The statement "..get used to it" is very closed minded for
|||| software by definition which
|||| should be user freindly. Especially to a core (long term)
|||| constituency."
||||
|||| Welcome to Apple OS X.xxx
||||
|||| Must be nice living where nothing ever changes and the Chevy Nova
|||| is still the epitomy of car design.
||||
||||
|||| --
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, Matthew asked:
||||
||||| So absolutley no consideration for what would be regarded as in
||||| your perception backward user compatibility or interoperability?
||||| Been using Office since it's inception this is the first time it
||||| has been so redesgined as to be ambiguous and aleinate
||||| experienced/seasoned users. The statement "..get used to it" is
||||| very closed minded for software by definition which should be user
||||| freindly. Especially to a core (long term) constituency.
|||||
||||| If a comparision can be drawn from those of us who migrated from
||||| Lotus 123 to Excel in the day, still found a support foundation
||||| for change with the incorporation of of 123 Menu key strokes and
||||| formual translations. So why not the same support foundation from
||||| Menu driven to Ribbon driven functionality?
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
||||| "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
|||||
|||||| You can't. 2007 has a completely new user interface and you'll
|||||| have to learn to live with it, or go back to an older version.
||||||
|||||| Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
|||||| --------------
|||||| http://pschmid.net
|||||| ***
|||||| Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
|||||| ***
|||||| Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
|||||| RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
|||||| http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007:
|||||| http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote ***
|||||| Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
||||||
|||||| ||||||
||||||| Lovely, everything is all over the place , hidden, and not in
||||||| the least intuitive.
||||||| Ribbon is pre-school and Kindergarden at best. Just fustrating.
|||||||
||||||| So how do I get to the classic menu driven menus in Office 2007
||||||| ? I've got work to do, and need a common/familiar interface as a
||||||| foundation in which to transition to.
|||||||
||||||| Help...