Compatibility issue for Office 2004 for MAC with Office 2007 forWindows

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twingram

I am a fairly new MAC user and love it. We need to buy a new pc for my
husband and I want to get him a MAC but some of his business requires
receiving office 2007 windows xlsx attachments for mailing labels
that he needs to be able to use mail merge in the 2004 mac office
program. Will they work together? I would download the trial 2004 for
mac but my IMAC recognizes it as an expired trial and I can't test it
out before buying the new MAC.

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks.
 
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Corentin Cras-Méneur

I am a fairly new MAC user and love it. We need to buy a new pc for my
husband and I want to get him a MAC but some of his business requires
receiving office 2007 windows xlsx attachments for mailing labels
that he needs to be able to use mail merge in the 2004 mac office
program.

There is a converter for Office 2007 files, but it's still beta.
It *should* work providing they don't use WIndows-only technologies.
If it's a simple list for mail-merge, it should be fine,

Since Office 2007 can export in a xls format, they should really be
sending these files in this format to avoid any trouble. Do you know
whether they use Office 2007 specific features?
Will they work together? I would download the trial 2004 for
mac but my IMAC recognizes it as an expired trial and I can't test it
out before buying the new MAC.


You probably already tried the trial version on this computer at some
point.

Corentin
 
B

Ben

John said:
{Giggle} All Macs have one or more MACs :)
Provided they have Ethernet or a Modem, some of the early ones didn't
It is a long hexadecimal number that uniquely identifies a communications
device to a network. It's similar to an IP address, but much longer.

For example, your network card and modem will both have a MAC. Everything
that connects to a network has one, although some of the cheaper
manufacturers do not bother to ensure that they are, in fact, unique in the
whole world, which they are supposed to be.

It enables a very high level of network security if you enable MAC control
on a wireless base station. When you do, only the specific devices you
nominate will be allowed to connect. AirPort cards we do not recognise as
being "family" will be rejected, regardless of whether they have the correct
password or not.

One bothers to set it only if the pimply youth next door persistently jumps
aboard your home wireless network to download porno or torrents. Pimply
youths can crack most wireless security, but not the MAC access (because if
you can not connect, you cannot see which MAC it's looking for...)

Actually it does not provide much security, any good wireless network
sniffer will show the MAC addresses of computers connecting to an access
point, it is then very easy to spoof or clone your MAC address so the
access point thinks you are authorised. a strong password using WPA or
better (not WEP as that is easy to crack)is about the only way to secure
a home network.
There are better forms of security for commercial networks that fully
encrypt the data to and from the access point, but they do slow the data
and are expensive to implement.
Ben.
 
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RafCa-man

I have similar question I have a PC with WindowXP and also I have a iMac
2007(leopard). I was told that wicrosoft office is know compatible with iMac
2007; my question is how can i download this program to my iMac and how much
is it
 
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JE McGimpsey

RafCa-man said:
I have similar question I have a PC with WindowXP and also I have a iMac
2007(leopard). I was told that wicrosoft office is know compatible with iMac
2007; my question is how can i download this program to my iMac and how much
is it

Neither MacOffice nor WinOffice are available as a download (except if
you're a subscriber to MSDN).

You can find info on MacOffice2004 (and the upgrade to MacOffice2008
when released in January) at MacTopia:

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/

You can also run Office 2007 in Windows via Apple's Bootcamp or
Parallels (a third-party app).
 
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Clive Huggan

This discussion group isn't run by Microsoft employees, so no-one can tell
you how much Word will cost. Check out a retailer in whatever country you
live in, or on the web. It isn't available via download.

Although the electronic file structure of the three main Office applications
(not Entourage) is identical between the PC and Mac, there are many
differences between the two versions at the detailed level -- often a
consequence of features of the Windows and Mac interfaces. You will
therefore need to buy the Mac edition of Office.

If you live in North America there are a couple of special deals at present
whereby you can buy Office 2004 and upgrade to 2008 for almost nothing: see
www.mactopia.com, Microsoft's site for Mac owners.

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from North America and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
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darika&Souaychanhta

Re: Compatibility issue for Office 2004 forMAC with Office 2007 for Windows
 
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darika&Souaychanhta

Re: Compatibility issue for Office 2004 forMAC with Office 2007 for Windows
 
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darika&Souaychanhta

Re: Compatibility issue for Office 2004 forMAC with Office 2007 for Windows
 
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Russ Hodes

Arghhh!! Enough!

Windows users actually have the same problem with earlier versions of Microsoft Office. A patch works nicely for them on PC's running Windows.

The patch for the Mac versions of Office, however, are not so helpful.

I suggest that you go back to the Windows source and simply ask for them to send the file in a older format (.xls or .doc) rather than the newer default file type.
 
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Lorraine M

Arghhh!! Enough!
Windows users actually have the same problem with earlier versions of Microsoft Office. A patch works nicely for them on PC's running Windows.

The patch for the Mac versions of Office, however, are not so helpful.

I suggest that you go back to the Windows source and simply ask for them to send the file in a older format (.xls or .doc) rather than the newer default file type.

I agree.
 
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Lorraine M

> Arghhh!! Enough!
>
> Windows users actually have the same problem with earlier versions of Microsoft Office. A patch works nicely for them on PC's running Windows.
>
> The patch for the Mac versions of Office, however, are not so helpful.
>
> I suggest that you go back to the Windows source and simply ask for them to send the file in a older format (.xls or .doc) rather than the newer default file type.
>

I agree.
An additional question.... I'm a new Mac user... since there is much difficulty with compatibility between MS Office 2004 and MS Office 2007 (w/ Mac) would it be better to purchase to MS Office 2004 and not 2007?
 
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John McGhie

Hi Lorraine:
An additional question.... I'm a new Mac user... since there is much
difficulty with compatibility between MS Office 2004 and MS Office 2007 (w/
Mac) would it be better to purchase to MS Office 2004 and not 2007?

For advanced users, "Yes".

Office 2004 has a lot more of the functions used by advanced users than
Office 2008.

For users who can live without advanced functions, then it's probably better
to buy Office 2008 -- it's simpler to use, for undemanding users.

It helps to understand where the compatibility difficulties lie:

1) There are Windows and Mac users who have not yet installed the free
converter for the new file formats. These people will continue to be unable
to open the new file formats until they update their systems.

But this is not the Mac user's problem. The tools are there, they are
no-charge, they can download them in a minute or two.

You cannot make people use the correct tools. Nor can you stop them
complaining about the difficulties they get when they don't. People just
love to play the helpless victim :)

But these people are currently pumping out a lot of text all over the
internet. In most cases, you will find that such people have either never
used the product at all, or have never learned to use it properly. Of
course, they won't tell you that!

Of course, you should form your own opinion about the appropriate action for
yourself.

2) There are currently a large number of bugs in Office 2008. Many of
these will be resolved by the Service Pack that is due out tomorrow. The
rest will be fixed over time: we can expect at least one more major service
pack.

3) Mac Office 2008 is a substantial cut-down of Office 2007. Microsoft has
left out about half the functionality.

So Office 2008 is not able to create or display or work with many of the
things that Office 2007 can.

Non-professional users do not use these functions, on either a PC or a Mac.
Research abounds that proves conclusively that 80 per cent of users use only
ten per cent of the software's functions. Such users will never need or
notice the missing functions.

However, the other 20 per cent of us DO stretch Office applications to their
full capability. We frequently use things such as Macros, Automation,
Graphics Editing, the Analysis Toolpack, and a full range of citation
standards.

Such users are better advised to sit this release out. Office 2008 has
limited functionality. Office 2004 is still a supported product.
Professional users and power users can afford to wait for the next version,
and in most cases, they should.

There, that's a fairly expansive answer. I hope it gives you what you need
to form your own opinion.

Cheers



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johnc

Hi, newcomers to Office 2008 and oldies on Mac's should carefully read the psoting by John - se above - with this conclusion for especialy "more advanced users". Myself thinks it was a waste to pre4order the Office 2008 package, as I do not not see any reason why I should install it after carefully reading all the posting on the problems and shortcommings of Office 2008 - especially on the interoperationality with the "dos" version on Windows.

"Such users are better advised to sit this release out. Office 2008 has
limited functionality. Office 2004 is still a supported product.
Professional users and power users can afford to wait for the next version,
and in most cases, they should."
 
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imp81318

Thanks for that heads-up regarding the limited functionality of Office 2008 John, good to know for sure! I consider myself an in-depth advanced user of Office, particularly Excel. I work in Office 2007 here in the office (IT guys won't get me a mac, haha) and my wife has Office 2007 at home, but I have Office 2004 on my MacBook at home. I downloaded the "patch" onto my Mac last night and installed it, but it still won't allow me open a .docx file from my wife's computer. Any suggestions? Are they planning to re-release the patch? Has anyone else had success with it??
 
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Rob M

Can anyone help?
Wen ever I email a Word document to someone with a PC they can't open the file, I have tried every format from 2008 to 97 tru 2004 and no matter how I save the file it won't open, is anyone else having this problem or what am I doing wrong?

Thank You

Rob
 
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Bob Greenblatt

Can anyone help?
Wen ever I email a Word document to someone with a PC they can't open the
file, I have tried every format from 2008 to 97 tru 2004 and no matter how I
save the file it won't open, is anyone else having this problem or what am I
doing wrong?

Thank You

Rob
How are you emailing it? Don't compress it. If sending from Entourage, on
the compose tab of preferences, set compose to appledouble. If sending from
Mail, I think the option is windows friendly.
 

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