% complete vs %wok complete vs physical % complete

Y

yousa

i will highly appreciate if some one can explain to me with some good
example that what is difference between % complete, %wok complete and
physical % complete.

thanks
 
S

Steve House

% Complete deals with time, % Work Complete deals with man-hours, % Physical
Complete deals with physical progress.

Scenario 1: I have to paint a room starting Mon 8am. The painter will work
on it full time and it will take 5 days. Duration: 40 hours. Work: 40
man-hours. It's Thur 5pm and everything is on schedule. We have passed 32
hours of duration and the painter has done 32 man-hours of work. We are 80%
Complete and 80% Worek Complete.

Scenario 2: Same room, same painter, same 5 days duration. But this time
the painter is scheduled to do 1 hour Mon first primer coat and let it dry
overnight, Tue 1 hour on 2nd primer, Wed 1 hour first colour coat, Thur 1
hour 2nd colour coat, Fri all day finishing up thje trim and detail.
Duration is still 40 hours but now the work is contoured and is only 12
man-hours. Again we're at 5pm Thur and everything has gone according to
plan. We have passed 32 of the 40 hours of duration so we're 80% Complete
but we have done 4 man-hours of the total of 12 that's required so we're 33%
Work Complete.

There's no precise numerical definition of % Physical Complete. We look
around the room and we see there's one wall left that has only got half of
the 2nd coat on it. We should be at something like 80% Physical Complete at
that point but we haven't applied as much paint as we ought to have so we
estimate we're 60% Physical.

Personally I think physical complete is overused because it's such a loosey
goosey concept. If you have to pave a kilometer of road and you've done
half a klick, it's not too hard to come up with an estimate that makes
sense. But lets say the task is to design a new engine ... what does 50%
physical complete actually mean, how can I objectively measure it? Half the
drawings, fuel system done but need the electrical, got the crankcase but
still working on the cyilinder head ...? You just can't pin it down to a
measurable physical amount.

HTH
 
C

Catfish Hunter

This is from the search in MS Projects:
The % Complete field contains the current status of a task, expressed as the
percentage of the task's duration that has been completed.

Example The "Rebuild Mill" task is scheduled for a duration of 10 days.
The assigned resources have been working on the task for 5 days. Microsoft
Project calculates that the task is 50 percent complete.

Add the Physical % Complete field to a task view and enter values when the
calculated percent complete would not be an accurate measure of real work
performed or measured. Unlike the % Complete field, the Physical % Complete
field is independent of the total duration or actual duration values used by
the % Complete field. Updating Physical % Complete will not give you earned
MHRS (Actual Work).

Example: A project of building a stone wall consists of 100 stones stacked
five high. The first row of 20 stones can be laid in 20 minutes, but the
second row takes 25 minutes because now you have to lift the stones up one
row higher, so it takes a little longer. The third row would take 30 minutes,
the fourth 35 minutes, and the last row would take 40 minutes to lay 150
minutes total. After laying the first three rows, the project could be said
to be 60% physically complete (you laid 60 of 100 stones). However, you only
spent 75 of 150 minutes; so in terms of duration, the job is only 50%
complete. You add the Physical % Complete field to the Gantt Chart to ente

Best Uses: Add the % Work Complete field to a task sheet when you want to
display, filter, or edit percent work complete for tasks. If you type a value
in the % Work Complete field, Microsoft Project automatically calculates
actual work and remaining work. If the % Work Complete field is set to a
value greater than zero, the Actual Start field is set to the scheduled start
date if you have not yet entered an actual start date. If the % Work Complete
field is set to 100, the Actual Finish field is set to the scheduled finish
date.

Example The "Remove Pump" task is scheduled for 40 hours of work. So far,
the assigned resources have reported 10 hours of actual work on the task.
Microsoft Project calculates that the task is 25 percent work complete.






































































































































































































































































Steve House said:
% Complete deals with time, % Work Complete deals with man-hours, % Physical
Complete deals with physical progress.

Scenario 1: I have to paint a room starting Mon 8am. The painter will work
on it full time and it will take 5 days. Duration: 40 hours. Work: 40
man-hours. It's Thur 5pm and everything is on schedule. We have passed 32
hours of duration and the painter has done 32 man-hours of work. We are 80%
Complete and 80% Worek Complete.

Scenario 2: Same room, same painter, same 5 days duration. But this time
the painter is scheduled to do 1 hour Mon first primer coat and let it dry
overnight, Tue 1 hour on 2nd primer, Wed 1 hour first colour coat, Thur 1
hour 2nd colour coat, Fri all day finishing up thje trim and detail.
Duration is still 40 hours but now the work is contoured and is only 12
man-hours. Again we're at 5pm Thur and everything has gone according to
plan. We have passed 32 of the 40 hours of duration so we're 80% Complete
but we have done 4 man-hours of the total of 12 that's required so we're 33%
Work Complete.

There's no precise numerical definition of % Physical Complete. We look
around the room and we see there's one wall left that has only got half of
the 2nd coat on it. We should be at something like 80% Physical Complete at
that point but we haven't applied as much paint as we ought to have so we
estimate we're 60% Physical.

Personally I think physical complete is overused because it's such a loosey
goosey concept. If you have to pave a kilometer of road and you've done
half a klick, it's not too hard to come up with an estimate that makes
sense. But lets say the task is to design a new engine ... what does 50%
physical complete actually mean, how can I objectively measure it? Half the
drawings, fuel system done but need the electrical, got the crankcase but
still working on the cyilinder head ...? You just can't pin it down to a
measurable physical amount.

HTH

--
Steve House [Project MVP]
MS Project Trainer & Consultant
Visit http://www.mvps.org/project/faqs.htm for the FAQs


yousa said:
i will highly appreciate if some one can explain to me with some good
example that what is difference between % complete, %wok complete and
physical % complete.

thanks
 
M

Mike Glen

Nicely put, Steve :)

Mike Glen
Project MVP

Steve said:
% Complete deals with time, % Work Complete deals with man-hours, %
Physical Complete deals with physical progress.

Scenario 1: I have to paint a room starting Mon 8am. The painter
will work on it full time and it will take 5 days. Duration: 40
hours. Work: 40 man-hours. It's Thur 5pm and everything is on
schedule. We have passed 32 hours of duration and the painter has
done 32 man-hours of work. We are 80% Complete and 80% Worek
Complete.
Scenario 2: Same room, same painter, same 5 days duration. But this
time the painter is scheduled to do 1 hour Mon first primer coat and
let it dry overnight, Tue 1 hour on 2nd primer, Wed 1 hour first
colour coat, Thur 1 hour 2nd colour coat, Fri all day finishing up
thje trim and detail. Duration is still 40 hours but now the work is
contoured and is only 12 man-hours. Again we're at 5pm Thur and
everything has gone according to plan. We have passed 32 of the 40
hours of duration so we're 80% Complete but we have done 4 man-hours
of the total of 12 that's required so we're 33% Work Complete.

There's no precise numerical definition of % Physical Complete. We
look around the room and we see there's one wall left that has only
got half of the 2nd coat on it. We should be at something like 80%
Physical Complete at that point but we haven't applied as much paint
as we ought to have so we estimate we're 60% Physical.

Personally I think physical complete is overused because it's such a
loosey goosey concept. If you have to pave a kilometer of road and
you've done half a klick, it's not too hard to come up with an
estimate that makes sense. But lets say the task is to design a new
engine ... what does 50% physical complete actually mean, how can I
objectively measure it? Half the drawings, fuel system done but need
the electrical, got the crankcase but still working on the cyilinder
head ...? You just can't pin it down to a measurable physical amount.

HTH
 

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