Compress Weekend Days in Outlook 2007

[Trippio]

Outlook 2007 cannot compress Saturday and Sunday into a single column
anymore.This is a STANDARD format for printed datebooks going back over 5
decades. This is ridiculous that new version of Outlook has LESS
functionality. I am extremely disappointed in this software upgrade. It's
like getting a new car without cupholders. I'd rather use Outlook 2003 and
have wider columns for Mon-Fri: this way I can see more event details at a
glance. It's practical. That's why it's been a standard for so long.


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[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

Feel free to reinstall Outlook 2003 - many people, including me, appreciate the newest ability to overlay calendars which made the older compressed weekend days obsolete.

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After furious head scratching, Trippio asked:

| Outlook 2007 cannot compress Saturday and Sunday into a single column
| anymore.This is a STANDARD format for printed datebooks going back
| over 5 decades. This is ridiculous that new version of Outlook has
| LESS functionality. I am extremely disappointed in this software
| upgrade. It's like getting a new car without cupholders. I'd rather
| use Outlook 2003 and have wider columns for Mon-Fri: this way I can
| see more event details at a glance. It's practical. That's why it's
| been a standard for so long.
|
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| This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
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| the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
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| http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...4ac07&dg=microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring

 

[Alain]

Milly Staples : this sounds kind of arrogant. Whay Trippio is asking for is
the POSSIBILITY to compress weekend days in one box, not to make it
compulsory for eveyone. If YOU are happy with 1 day per box, then it does
not mean everyone is.

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

without the original message I have no idea what milly said, but I can tell
you that it is impossible to compress weekend days in Outlook 2007. This is
in part because of the calendar overlay feature. It's unlikely to come
back... but the best chance to see it added to outlook 14 is by opening a
support incident with Microsoft and requesting it.

 

[Brian Tillman]

Milly Staples : this sounds kind of arrogant. Whay Trippio is
asking for is the POSSIBILITY to compress weekend days in one box,
not to make it compulsory for eveyone. If YOU are happy with 1 day
per box, then it does not mean everyone is.

The problem is, Milly doesn't work for Microsoft. You may or may not be
happy with Microsoft's choice of no linger compressing weekends, but it's a
fact you must deal with now. Because Outlook 2007 allows calendar overlays,
compressed weekends are no longer possible. Why not just disable weekend
days in the work week so that you can toggle between the work week and full
week views?

 

[Amanda in WNC]

"Why not just disable weekend days in the work week so that you can toggle
between the work week and full week views?"

I assume it is for the same reason I have for not likely the loss of this
feature. Because I still need to see Sat/Sun, but have far fewer appointments
on those days. Thus, they do not require a whole cell. The majority of my
appointments are during the normal work week, so the larger those cells are,
the better!

Does that make sense?

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

Unfortunately compressed weekends and the 2 column week view are unlikely to
be returned to future versions of outlook - they just don’t work with the
overlays. The method at
http://www.slipstick.com/Tutorials/2wk_cal/2wk_cal.htm is a good workaround
for many people.

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[Tim Sorrentino]

Diane,

Not to be disrepectful, but I'm guessing you should be able to read Milly
Staples response if I, and everyone else reading this forum can see her
response. Milly's response is rather short sighted. This new Calendar
Overlay mode should not preclude the previous OPTION to compress weekend
days. Instead, overlay should just expand the compressed weekend days when
overlay is invoked (if one of the calendars included in overlay does not have
compressed weekends) and then the calendar view should revert to their
previous view when overlay mode is cancelled. This is just a matter of
Microsoft development once again making poor choices on behalf of the users.
This post is proof that there are a number of us that made use of the
compressed weekend option.

I personally have been using Windows and Microsoft application since 1987
and have seen many, many impressive improvements and many, many
unintelligible feature modifications and omissions. I therefore avoided
Vista and Office 2007 like the PLAGUE because of feature modification,
omissions and the "wonder" ribbon that can't be "unraveled". Once again,
shame on Microsoft for taking away the "good" instead of improving it.
Office 2003 was a shining example of how talented Microsoft can be when they
choose to make meaningful improvements. I've used Word, Excel, and
PowerPoint from "Day 1" and Office 2003 really made those applications
extremely intuitive and useful. Office 2007 - NOT. Milly's flip remark
about reverting to Office 2003 does not apply, many of us have no choice to
go backward based on dictates of our businesses and decision by the IT
department to remain up to date on applications.

Hopefully, those of you employed by Microsoft, that haven't "drank the
kool-aid" yet can appreciate the value of what is being communicated here and
realize that by making intuitive, comprehensive and inclusive improvements
will sell more product just by virtue of wider acceptance. I would have
purchased Office 2007 when it was first available if I hadn't heard the
"horror" stories and now, two years later, I'm in a position where I've been
forced to use the product and I'm experiencing the "horror".

Unfortunately compressed weekends and the 2 column week view are unlikely to
be returned to future versions of outlook - they just don’t work with the
overlays. The method at
http://www.slipstick.com/Tutorials/2wk_cal/2wk_cal.htm is a good workaround
for many people.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]



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"Why not just disable weekend days in the work week so that you can toggle
between the work week and full week views?"

I assume it is for the same reason I have for not likely the loss of this
feature. Because I still need to see Sat/Sun, but have far fewer
appointments
on those days. Thus, they do not require a whole cell. The majority of my
appointments are during the normal work week, so the larger those cells
are,
the better!

Does that make sense?

 

[Gordon]

I personally have been using Windows and Microsoft application since 1987
and have seen many, many impressive improvements and many, many
unintelligible feature modifications and omissions. I therefore avoided
Vista and Office 2007 like the PLAGUE because of feature modification,
omissions and the "wonder" ribbon that can't be "unraveled". Once again,
shame on Microsoft for taking away the "good" instead of improving it.
Office 2003 was a shining example of how talented Microsoft can be when
they
choose to make meaningful improvements. I've used Word, Excel, and
PowerPoint from "Day 1" and Office 2003 really made those applications
extremely intuitive and useful. Office 2007 - NOT.

Interestingly I also have been using Office products at an advanced level
since Office 95 - and I find the Ribbon FAR more useful than having to dig
down through endless menus and sub menus to find what I want....
How long have you been using 2007?

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

The problem is the complexity of switching between compressed weekends and
uncompressed weekends with overlay mode. Had they been able to do it in a
reasonable amount of time and without adding bugs, they would have.

They know from CEIP data what features get turned off and this helps them
decide the value of each feature - so they know which features deserve more
man-hours to make work. The dev teams don't have an endless budget without
deadlines - they have to triage the work they do - easy almost always gets
done. I don't know where compressed weekends fall in the data but if you
aren't opted into the "customer experience improvement program" they
definitely aren't counting your data points.

As for the ribbon - year after year users (including some power users)
requested "new" features which were already in office but were hard to
discover. The ribbon makes them easier to find. While there is a larger
learning curve for those of us who know where to find things in previous
office versions, it is a lot easier for newer users to find the things they
need. Case in point - after a couple of weeks on office 2007 my 3rd yr
college student raved about the new features that made writing term papers
so much easier. Her classmates all loved it. I didn't have the heart to tell
her not much had changed, the commands were just easier to find. I was still
trying get used to to the ribbon but her experience validated the usefulness
of the ribbon.

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Diane,

Not to be disrepectful, but I'm guessing you should be able to read Milly
Staples response if I, and everyone else reading this forum can see her
response. Milly's response is rather short sighted. This new Calendar
Overlay mode should not preclude the previous OPTION to compress weekend
days. Instead, overlay should just expand the compressed weekend days
when
overlay is invoked (if one of the calendars included in overlay does not
have
compressed weekends) and then the calendar view should revert to their
previous view when overlay mode is cancelled. This is just a matter of
Microsoft development once again making poor choices on behalf of the
users.
This post is proof that there are a number of us that made use of the
compressed weekend option.

I personally have been using Windows and Microsoft application since 1987
and have seen many, many impressive improvements and many, many
unintelligible feature modifications and omissions. I therefore avoided
Vista and Office 2007 like the PLAGUE because of feature modification,
omissions and the "wonder" ribbon that can't be "unraveled". Once again,
shame on Microsoft for taking away the "good" instead of improving it.
Office 2003 was a shining example of how talented Microsoft can be when
they
choose to make meaningful improvements. I've used Word, Excel, and
PowerPoint from "Day 1" and Office 2003 really made those applications
extremely intuitive and useful. Office 2007 - NOT. Milly's flip remark
about reverting to Office 2003 does not apply, many of us have no choice
to
go backward based on dictates of our businesses and decision by the IT
department to remain up to date on applications.

Hopefully, those of you employed by Microsoft, that haven't "drank the
kool-aid" yet can appreciate the value of what is being communicated here
and
realize that by making intuitive, comprehensive and inclusive improvements
will sell more product just by virtue of wider acceptance. I would have
purchased Office 2007 when it was first available if I hadn't heard the
"horror" stories and now, two years later, I'm in a position where I've
been
forced to use the product and I'm experiencing the "horror".

Unfortunately compressed weekends and the 2 column week view are unlikely
to
be returned to future versions of outlook - they just donâ?Tt work with
the
overlays. The method at
http://www.slipstick.com/Tutorials/2wk_cal/2wk_cal.htm is a good
workaround
for many people.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]



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message

"Why not just disable weekend days in the work week so that you can
toggle
between the work week and full week views?"

I assume it is for the same reason I have for not likely the loss of
this
feature. Because I still need to see Sat/Sun, but have far fewer
appointments
on those days. Thus, they do not require a whole cell. The majority of
my
appointments are during the normal work week, so the larger those cells
are,
the better!

Does that make sense?


:


Milly Staples : this sounds kind of arrogant. Whay Trippio is
asking for is the POSSIBILITY to compress weekend days in one box,

 

[TechGuy]

Strange to see this bickering over the calendar format.

I think overall Outlook 2007 rocks!
Yes, thought the calendar format is limited.
Trippio, if you need to customize the calendar format, use a 3rd party
App called WinCalendar to convert Outlook Calendars to a fully
formatted calendar in native Microsoft Excel or Word format. For more
info see:

http://www.wincalendar.com/calendar-maker.html
http://www.wincalendar.com/Outlook-Calendar-Import.htm

Mike