Continuing headers on next page?

K

Karl

Is there anyway to make the Headers (again, header styles not header
as in header/footer) to print again with the word "Cont." after if
there is a new page? For example, if I have the header "Introduction"
as Header 1, and it goes onto the next page, I would like the second
page to have a header 1 as well that says "Introduction Cont." all
automatically. I can do this in the header in the header/footer part,
but I want it as a normal Header style. Any ideas?

Thanks!
 
C

Clive Huggan

Hello Karl,

I was about to tell you when I read the end bit:
I can do this in the header in the header/footer part,
but I want it as a normal Header style.

It might just be that it's very early in the morning, but I'm highly
confused by that, and maybe also because you may be using the word "header"
when you mean "heading".

Could you please clarify that last sentence?

Here I'll use "header" as in "page header" (the text that may be put at the
top of each page) and "heading" (the title that precedes and summarizes a
group of paragraphs or a chapter).

In the normal course of events I'd say the solution is to make each chapter
(or other division of your document) have a different page header on its
first page, and set this up:

Header on 1st page of 1st chapter: Introduction
Header on subsequent pages of 1st chapter: Introduction cont'd

Header on 1st page of 2nd chapter: blahblah
Header on subsequent pages of 2nd chapter: blahblah cont'd

That's done by inserting section breaks with the insertion point to the left
of the first word of each chapter heading (I find it easiest to do that in
Normal view, by keying Command-Enter) then choosing Format menu -> Document
-> Layout, and selecting "Different first page" with the pop-down menu at
"This section". Then choose View menu -> Header and Footer and insert the
wording you want, namely "Introduction" for the first page and "Introduction
cont'd" for the subsequent ones. And do likewise in subsequent chapters.

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from North America and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
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J

John McGhie

Hi Karl:

Clive is quite correct, you can do this in the running header.

Presenting it as normal text is a REAL chore with horrendous maintenance
cost.

Yes, we can tell you how to do it (using bookmarks and cross-references) but
it is a huge fiddle, and you have to fix it all up every time you want to
update the text.

So you would probably first ask yourself "Why would I expend thousands of
dollars worth of time and effort doing this?"

I suspect you will find that the answer will come back something like this:

"Well, any reader who can't deduce that a section has continued, from the
fact that a different heading has not yet appeared, is probably too stupid
to be reading my book. They should be kept away from sharp objects, and my
text, incase they hurt themselves. Any other kind of reader would
appreciate NOT having the text cluttered up with "(Continued)" at the end of
every heading."

If you decide that your readers are clever enough to figure some things out
for themselves, then a simple "StyleRef" field in the running header is all
you need. Look up STYLEREF Field in the Help for details. It is possible
to have a multi-part nested set of StyleRef fields that pick up the
lowest-level heading available on each page. That's quite complex, and also
requires maintenance, so it's best avoided :)

One point I would make is that perhaps the reason you wanted this mechanism
in the first place is that your sections of text go on for several pages
without a heading. If that's the case, you may wish to revisit your text
design. There should be a minimum of one heading on each page, so you may
wish to add another level of headings to your design, to help readers
navigate.

I suspect that you are working with the Information Mapping methodology.
If so, please remember that Information Mapping is a "theory", not a
prescriptive book design. When they are TEACHING Information Mapping, they
show all manner of garish lines and boxes and "Continued" flags on Headings
and Tables, just to drive the point home.

However, an experienced Information Mapping practitioner (e.g. Clive and
myself...) would reduce these "navigation signposts" to "vestigial elements"
of the page design. For example: The "sign" that a section has continued
is repeating the heading in the running header. The sign that a table has
continued is that you use a half-weight line at the bottom.

Hope this helps

Is there anyway to make the Headers (again, header styles not header
as in header/footer) to print again with the word "Cont." after if
there is a new page? For example, if I have the header "Introduction"
as Header 1, and it goes onto the next page, I would like the second
page to have a header 1 as well that says "Introduction Cont." all
automatically. I can do this in the header in the header/footer part,
but I want it as a normal Header style. Any ideas?

Thanks!

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