Converting from Yahoo! SiteBuilder to FrontPage 2003?

D

dastrole

I am a small business owner with a fairly advanced knowledge of MS Office
products, but I am a relative novice when it comes to web design and
publishing. I purchased FrontPage 2003 about 3 weeks ago and have found it
relatively easy to use because of its similarity to other MS Office products.

My small business web site has been hosted by Yahoo Small Business for the
past 3 years or so. I designed the site using the Yahoo SiteBuilder web site
building tools they provided. I recently wanted to update the site to a more
advanced format using frames and a common interface for all pages so that
future re-designs and changes would be easier. I created a new FrontPage
site by doing the following:

1. Imported the original SiteBuilder site files into FrontPage;
2. Set up frames for the header, contents, body (main), and footer using
elements from the old SiteBuilder site such as background images, pictures
and menu bars;
3. Made copies of all original content pages;
4. Deleted all content from the original content pages except for the
background, page titles and keywords;
5. Rebuilt each content page by first copying a uniform layout template
(text or form boxes) to the page, then cutting and pasting the original text
and form fields into the page;
6. Corrected all form field names and content to conform to FrontPage rules;
7. Viewed reports to make sure that there were no site errors except for
those associated with the site needing to be published to work correctly.

I then prepared my internet space on the Yahoo small business server by
using LeechFTP to delete all files and directories on the Yahoo web hosing
server (except for the access log files).

Then, following directions from a Yahoo technician, I activated FrontPage
for my Yahoo-hosted web site.

I then published my new FrontPage web site to the Yahoo web server using
FrontPage.

Next, I viewed my web site online and found that it was not displaying
correctly. The frames seemed to be in place, but all the content for the
frames and main page was missing (A lot of “Not Found†errors were displayed
on the screen).

Next, I ran the “Recalc All†for FrontPage on the Yahoo web hosting control
panel. This process seemed to run for several hours, but never finished.

I called Yahoo technical support and was told that the problem was that
pages created in SiteBuilder could not be imported into FrontPage and,
therefore, my web pages were incompatible with FrontPage. I am skeptical of
this answer due to the fact that FrontPage did not list any page errors and
was able to display the pages correctly in previews on my computer.

Any suggestions on how to get my FrontPage web site to display correctly on
the Yahoo web server? Are there really incompatibilities between
SiteBuilder-created pages and FrontPage-created pages such as .htm vs. .html,
etc?
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

I suspect you host is correct and knows what they are talking about
- Most hosting "site builders" rely on absolute server side links
- they may display fine on your PC (in FP) but not run on the server unless the other
tools related to the site builder are active

Rebuild your local site w/o any of the sitebuilder content

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|I am a small business owner with a fairly advanced knowledge of MS Office
| products, but I am a relative novice when it comes to web design and
| publishing. I purchased FrontPage 2003 about 3 weeks ago and have found it
| relatively easy to use because of its similarity to other MS Office products.
|
| My small business web site has been hosted by Yahoo Small Business for the
| past 3 years or so. I designed the site using the Yahoo SiteBuilder web site
| building tools they provided. I recently wanted to update the site to a more
| advanced format using frames and a common interface for all pages so that
| future re-designs and changes would be easier. I created a new FrontPage
| site by doing the following:
|
| 1. Imported the original SiteBuilder site files into FrontPage;
| 2. Set up frames for the header, contents, body (main), and footer using
| elements from the old SiteBuilder site such as background images, pictures
| and menu bars;
| 3. Made copies of all original content pages;
| 4. Deleted all content from the original content pages except for the
| background, page titles and keywords;
| 5. Rebuilt each content page by first copying a uniform layout template
| (text or form boxes) to the page, then cutting and pasting the original text
| and form fields into the page;
| 6. Corrected all form field names and content to conform to FrontPage rules;
| 7. Viewed reports to make sure that there were no site errors except for
| those associated with the site needing to be published to work correctly.
|
| I then prepared my internet space on the Yahoo small business server by
| using LeechFTP to delete all files and directories on the Yahoo web hosing
| server (except for the access log files).
|
| Then, following directions from a Yahoo technician, I activated FrontPage
| for my Yahoo-hosted web site.
|
| I then published my new FrontPage web site to the Yahoo web server using
| FrontPage.
|
| Next, I viewed my web site online and found that it was not displaying
| correctly. The frames seemed to be in place, but all the content for the
| frames and main page was missing (A lot of “Not Found†errors were displayed
| on the screen).
|
| Next, I ran the “Recalc All†for FrontPage on the Yahoo web hosting control
| panel. This process seemed to run for several hours, but never finished.
|
| I called Yahoo technical support and was told that the problem was that
| pages created in SiteBuilder could not be imported into FrontPage and,
| therefore, my web pages were incompatible with FrontPage. I am skeptical of
| this answer due to the fact that FrontPage did not list any page errors and
| was able to display the pages correctly in previews on my computer.
|
| Any suggestions on how to get my FrontPage web site to display correctly on
| the Yahoo web server? Are there really incompatibilities between
| SiteBuilder-created pages and FrontPage-created pages such as .htm vs. .html,
| etc?
 
T

Tina Clarke

Any suggestions on how to get my FrontPage web site to display correctly
on
the Yahoo web server? Are there really incompatibilities between
SiteBuilder-created pages and FrontPage-created pages such as .htm vs. ..html,
etc?

Stefan answered your question, however to answer the one your asking but
don't know your asking....

Frames are just as bad as your sitebuilder site.

You say don't know web design.....

So believe me when I say frames are not good for a business site nor will
they make life easier.

DWT, CSS and FrontPage Includes on the other hand will...

have a read of the following ... it's time for a new direction, so use this
time for good use, your site can be accessible, validated and in the search
engines very easily.

FrontPage DWT Ebook (f ree)
http://frontpage-ebooks.com/dwt-ebook.htm

FrontPage Include Tutorial
http://anyfrontpage.com/ezine/va/frontpage-includes.htm

FrontPage and CSS
FrontPage and CSS
http://accessfp.net/frontpage-2003/tutorials/information-about-css.htm
http://accessfp.net/frontpage-2003/tutorials/creating-css.htm

hth Tina


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