Create a site from scratch

[Pete D.]

In the past I have always used FP's Themes to create a site and now I would
like to build one from scratch. I really have no idea how to start since I
was taught using a FP 2002 Theme. Can someone point me to a tutorial that
can help me start to learn how to do this? Thanks.

 

[Jim Buyens]

-----Original Message-----

In the past I have always used FP's Themes to create a
site and now I would like to build one from scratch. I
really have no idea how to start since I was taught using
a FP 2002 Theme. Can someone point me to a tutorial that
can help me start to learn how to do this? Thanks.

This is an extremely vague question, but here's the
procedure:

1. Open a new blank page.
2. Add whatever text and pictures you want.
3. Save.
4. Open another new, blank page.
5. Add whatever content you want.
6. Save.
7. Open the page from step 3 and add a hyuperlink to the
page from step 6.
8. Save.
9. Iterate.

Can you ask something more specific?

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
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|\----------------------------------------------------/|
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out ||
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out ||
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition ||
|| Troubleshooting Microsoft FrontPage 2002 ||
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming ||
|| (All from Microsoft Press) ||
|/----------------------------------------------------\|
*------------------------------------------------------*

 

[Pete D.]

Sorry. I have always used Navigation View to create the pages and then added
a Theme. I have never designed a site over 10 pages so by using Navigation
View and then adding a Theme I had what might be called a "ready-made" site
which I then filled in with content.

I have read in this ng and heard from other designers that this is an
amateurish way of designing a site. To design a really top-notch one, a site
should be designed from the ground up with custom graphics for the banner,
navigation buttons, etc. I use Paint Shop Pro as my graphics editor which
again other designers look down upon, but it's adequate for me. Photoshop is
way too complicated and expensive and others I've tried I possibly did more
than I needed.

Maybe I should have asked how to import a banner and any navigation buttons
into FP 2002 instead. For example, would each banner or button need to be
sized in the graphics editor before importing into FP? Is it even possible
to get the rollover effects that FP puts in navigation buttons by importing
from a graphic editor? I think once I get the general idea of how to go
about it maybe everything will start to fall in place. Right now though I'm
stumped.

 

[Carmen]

Hi Pete.

If you did have Photoshop, it would come with what's
called ImageReady, a web graphics editor. It has a lot of
built in goodies, providing for rollover effects,
animation and the like for buttons.

Still, you can build buttons in Paint Shop Pro in .gif
or .jpeg format for use in your web pages. While in
FrontPage, you can insert theminto your page as you would
any image (Insert> File). Then you can use FrontPage's
DHTML effects (Format> DHTML effects) to achieve much of
what you're after. For example, after clicking on DHTML
effects, you can click on one of your buttons, then just
beneath your main menu, you'll see the DHTML dropdown
menus, allowing you to select dynamic HTML effects such
as "On click" or "On mouseover". Then select an effect to
Apply from the Apply dropdown menu, such
as "swappicture", selecting an alternative image or
button for the viewer to see. Now when you you scroll
over your button, you can swap it with another button
you've created.


Happy designing,
Carmen

 

[Pete D.]

Thank you Carmen. Your answer was very helpful and, at the very least, has
started me thinking. Just to clear up one point though, I don't own
Photoshop, I used a 30 day trial.

On more question please about the rollovers. Don't I have to use three
images-one for active, one for hovered and one for on-click or after click?
Thanks.

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Or create one page with the layout you want (try one of the page templates to start) w/o any page content - just the table layout /
navigation layout, etc
Then save it to say the _private folder as a template and copy / rename it multiple times to your root folder or an other folder for
each page you need and add content




| >-----Original Message-----
| >In the past I have always used FP's Themes to create a
| >site and now I would like to build one from scratch. I
| >really have no idea how to start since I was taught using
| >a FP 2002 Theme. Can someone point me to a tutorial that
| >can help me start to learn how to do this? Thanks.
|
| This is an extremely vague question, but here's the
| procedure:
|
| 1. Open a new blank page.
| 2. Add whatever text and pictures you want.
| 3. Save.
| 4. Open another new, blank page.
| 5. Add whatever content you want.
| 6. Save.
| 7. Open the page from step 3 and add a hyuperlink to the
| page from step 6.
| 8. Save.
| 9. Iterate.
|
| Can you ask something more specific?
|
| Jim Buyens
| Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| (e-mail address removed)
| http://www.interlacken.com
| Author of:
| *------------------------------------------------------*
| |\----------------------------------------------------/|
| || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out ||
| || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out ||
| || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition ||
| || Troubleshooting Microsoft FrontPage 2002 ||
| || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming ||
| || (All from Microsoft Press) ||
| |/----------------------------------------------------\|
| *------------------------------------------------------*
|

 

[Pete D.]

Thanks a lot Stefan.

Or create one page with the layout you want (try one of the page templates

to start) w/o any page content - just the table layout /

navigation layout, etc
Then save it to say the _private folder as a template and copy / rename it

multiple times to your root folder or an other folder for

 

[Carmen]

Hey Pete:

In answer to your mouseover question: no. Following the
instructions I gave for you in FrontPage, you can have a
simple DHTML effect that involves two images only:
rollover and static.

Cheers,
Carmen

 

[Pete D.]

Thanks again, Carmen.

 

[Jim Buyens]

Sorry. I have always used Navigation View to create the pages and then added
a Theme. I have never designed a site over 10 pages so by using Navigation
View and then adding a Theme I had what might be called a "ready-made" site
which I then filled in with content.

I have read in this ng and heard from other designers that this is an
amateurish way of designing a site. To design a really top-notch one, a site
should be designed from the ground up with custom graphics for the banner,
navigation buttons, etc. I use Paint Shop Pro as my graphics editor which
again other designers look down upon, but it's adequate for me. Photoshop is
way too complicated and expensive and others I've tried I possibly did more
than I needed.

Maybe I should have asked how to import a banner and any navigation buttons
into FP 2002 instead. For example, would each banner or button need to be
sized in the graphics editor before importing into FP?
Yes.

Is it even possible to get the rollover effects that FP puts in navigation
buttons by importing from a graphic editor?

Yes. First you create two version of the button and add them to your
Web.

Then, then you add one botton to your page, select it, and display the
DHTML Effects toolbar.

On the DHTML Effects toolbar, you choose On: Mouse Over, Apply: Swap
Picture, and then <Choose Settings>: Choose Picture. Select the
alternate version of your picture, then clock Open.

BTW, FP2003 has a new feature called Interactive Buttons thta makes
this much easier.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*------------------------------------------------------*
|\----------------------------------------------------/|
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out ||
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out ||
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition ||
|| Troubleshooting Microsoft FrontPage 2002 ||
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming ||
|| (All from Microsoft Press) ||
|/----------------------------------------------------\|
*------------------------------------------------------*

 

[Pete D.]

Thanks again, Jim.

"Pete D." <[email protected]> wrote in message

Yes. First you create two version of the button and add them to your
Web.

Then, then you add one botton to your page, select it, and display the
DHTML Effects toolbar.

On the DHTML Effects toolbar, you choose On: Mouse Over, Apply: Swap
Picture, and then <Choose Settings>: Choose Picture. Select the
alternate version of your picture, then clock Open.

BTW, FP2003 has a new feature called Interactive Buttons thta makes
this much easier.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*------------------------------------------------------*
|\----------------------------------------------------/|
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out ||
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out ||
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition ||
|| Troubleshooting Microsoft FrontPage 2002 ||
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming ||
|| (All from Microsoft Press) ||
|/----------------------------------------------------\|
*------------------------------------------------------*