Default File as Order

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NickC

I have set FrstName LastName as the Default "File as" order. However when I
click on my contacts, the form displays Lastname, FirstName in the File As
box

This is a nagging problem for me. Any assistance will be appreciated
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

I can't repro that.
Are you clicking on a new Contact Form?
Those settings will not affect existing Contacts.
 
N

NickC

I have an existing Contact Folder with over 3000 contacts. If I bring up
the form for any individual existing contact I see in File as box: Last
name, first name, even after I go to Tools, Options, Contact Options and set
Default File As to First Last
I am using XP Professional and Outlook 2002

Russ Valentine said:
I can't repro that.
Are you clicking on a new Contact Form?
Those settings will not affect existing Contacts.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
NickC said:
I have set FrstName LastName as the Default "File as" order. However
when
I
click on my contacts, the form displays Lastname, FirstName in the File As
box

This is a nagging problem for me. Any assistance will be appreciated
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

Correct.
Did you read my post?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
NickC said:
I have an existing Contact Folder with over 3000 contacts. If I bring up
the form for any individual existing contact I see in File as box: Last
name, first name, even after I go to Tools, Options, Contact Options and set
Default File As to First Last
I am using XP Professional and Outlook 2002

Russ Valentine said:
I can't repro that.
Are you clicking on a new Contact Form?
Those settings will not affect existing Contacts.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
NickC said:
I have set FrstName LastName as the Default "File as" order. However
when
I
click on my contacts, the form displays Lastname, FirstName in the
File
 
N

NickC

I read it. I am not clicking on a new form

Russ Valentine said:
Correct.
Did you read my post?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
NickC said:
I have an existing Contact Folder with over 3000 contacts. If I bring up
the form for any individual existing contact I see in File as box: Last
name, first name, even after I go to Tools, Options, Contact Options and set
Default File As to First Last
I am using XP Professional and Outlook 2002

However
when File
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

Then that is why you do not see the File As order in your new default. Your
new default will only apply to new Contacts, not existing ones.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
NickC said:
I read it. I am not clicking on a new form

Russ Valentine said:
Correct.
Did you read my post?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
NickC said:
I have an existing Contact Folder with over 3000 contacts. If I bring up
the form for any individual existing contact I see in File as box: Last
name, first name, even after I go to Tools, Options, Contact Options
and
set
Default File As to First Last
I am using XP Professional and Outlook 2002

I can't repro that.
Are you clicking on a new Contact Form?
Those settings will not affect existing Contacts.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I have set FrstName LastName as the Default "File as" order. However
when
I
click on my contacts, the form displays Lastname, FirstName in the File
As
box

This is a nagging problem for me. Any assistance will be appreciated
 
N

NickC

thanks

Russ Valentine said:
Then that is why you do not see the File As order in your new default. Your
new default will only apply to new Contacts, not existing ones.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
NickC said:
I read it. I am not clicking on a new form

Russ Valentine said:
Correct.
Did you read my post?
bring
up
the form for any individual existing contact I see in File as box: Last
name, first name, even after I go to Tools, Options, Contact Options and
set
Default File As to First Last
I am using XP Professional and Outlook 2002

I can't repro that.
Are you clicking on a new Contact Form?
Those settings will not affect existing Contacts.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I have set FrstName LastName as the Default "File as" order. However
when
I
click on my contacts, the form displays Lastname, FirstName in the
File
As
box

This is a nagging problem for me. Any assistance will be appreciated
 
D

Don 'Bear' Wilkinson

Nick,
you will find that people's answers in NGs tend to be terse. Short and
to the point. One does well to read *very* carefully. The answer is
not always spelled out and you have to read between the lines or
compensate for sloppy grammar and people who are in a hurry. Is this
case, Russ had already said "Those settings will not affect existing
Contacts." But, I can see where that was not terribly clear. I had to
read it twice to grasp the relevance, myself. And it was easier for me
to make it click since I have previously learned of the behavior.

That said, what Russ did not mention is that there are a couple of
solutions for this 'out there.' I'm thinking it was slipstick.com (and
the fabulous Sue Mosher and crowd) where I learned of a short Outlook
VBA(?) app that would go through *existing* contact records and reset
them to a new "FileAs" format. Sorry, but I don't have a handy link or
more info, but I'm pretty sure it can be found.

Bear



NickC said:
thanks

Russ Valentine said:
Then that is why you do not see the File As order in your new
default.
Your
new default will only apply to new Contacts, not existing ones.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
NickC said:
I read it. I am not clicking on a new form

Correct.
Did you read my post?
I
bring
up
the form for any individual existing contact I see in File as
box:
Last
name, first name, even after I go to Tools, Options, Contact
Options
and
set
Default File As to First Last
I am using XP Professional and Outlook 2002

I can't repro that.
Are you clicking on a new Contact Form?
Those settings will not affect existing Contacts.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I have set FrstName LastName as the Default "File as" order.
However
when
I
click on my contacts, the form displays Lastname,
FirstName in
the
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

Actually, that code resides in the KB. Take a look at this MS KB article, it
may help:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q291/1/44.asp

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Don 'Bear' Wilkinson said:
Nick,
you will find that people's answers in NGs tend to be terse. Short and
to the point. One does well to read *very* carefully. The answer is
not always spelled out and you have to read between the lines or
compensate for sloppy grammar and people who are in a hurry. Is this
case, Russ had already said "Those settings will not affect existing
Contacts." But, I can see where that was not terribly clear. I had to
read it twice to grasp the relevance, myself. And it was easier for me
to make it click since I have previously learned of the behavior.

That said, what Russ did not mention is that there are a couple of
solutions for this 'out there.' I'm thinking it was slipstick.com (and
the fabulous Sue Mosher and crowd) where I learned of a short Outlook
VBA(?) app that would go through *existing* contact records and reset
them to a new "FileAs" format. Sorry, but I don't have a handy link or
more info, but I'm pretty sure it can be found.

Bear



NickC said:
thanks

Russ Valentine said:
Then that is why you do not see the File As order in your new
default.
Your
new default will only apply to new Contacts, not existing ones.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I read it. I am not clicking on a new form

Correct.
Did you read my post?
I
bring
up
the form for any individual existing contact I see in File as box:
Last
name, first name, even after I go to Tools, Options, Contact Options
and
set
Default File As to First Last
I am using XP Professional and Outlook 2002

I can't repro that.
Are you clicking on a new Contact Form?
Those settings will not affect existing Contacts.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I have set FrstName LastName as the Default "File as" order.
However
when
I
click on my contacts, the form displays Lastname,
FirstName in
the
File
As
box

This is a nagging problem for me. Any assistance will be
appreciated
 
D

Don 'Bear' Wilkinson

Great reference Russ. Thanks!

I do note however that the article lists ONLY OL2002 as applicable.
Hmmmm

Judging by the KB number, which I gather are/were assigned in sequence,
I surmise that this article appeared after this solution, or a close
variant, was 'discovered' and created by a independent third party. I
attempted to attribute it to Slipstick, but again, I am not sure who did
it 'first'. Heck, I don't even know how much this particular code
resembles that to which I am referring. May be rather different.

Still, looks like Microsoft did a very good job of 'assimilating' other
people's technology solutions with the obstensibly noble purpose of
helping their customers. Something they have spent a lot of money on to
date. You know, how they buy up little software concerns so as to be
able to add features that previously were part of a shareware or
freeware application that millions of users downloaded and installed
themselves because the feature is so great and useful that it becomes
obvious someone in development at MS should have thought of it a long
time ago?!?! :)

Bear

Russ Valentine said:
Actually, that code resides in the KB. Take a look at this MS KB article, it
may help:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q291/1/44.asp

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Don 'Bear' Wilkinson said:
Nick,
you will find that people's answers in NGs tend to be terse. Short and
to the point. One does well to read *very* carefully. The answer is
not always spelled out and you have to read between the lines or
compensate for sloppy grammar and people who are in a hurry. Is this
case, Russ had already said "Those settings will not affect existing
Contacts." But, I can see where that was not terribly clear. I had to
read it twice to grasp the relevance, myself. And it was easier for me
to make it click since I have previously learned of the behavior.

That said, what Russ did not mention is that there are a couple of
solutions for this 'out there.' I'm thinking it was slipstick.com (and
the fabulous Sue Mosher and crowd) where I learned of a short Outlook
VBA(?) app that would go through *existing* contact records and reset
them to a new "FileAs" format. Sorry, but I don't have a handy link or
more info, but I'm pretty sure it can be found.

Bear



NickC said:
thanks

Then that is why you do not see the File As order in your new default.
Your
new default will only apply to new Contacts, not existing ones.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I read it. I am not clicking on a new form

Correct.
Did you read my post?
If
I
bring
up
the form for any individual existing contact I see in File
as
box:
Last
name, first name, even after I go to Tools, Options,
Contact
Options
and
set
Default File As to First Last
I am using XP Professional and Outlook 2002

I can't repro that.
Are you clicking on a new Contact Form?
Those settings will not affect existing Contacts.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I have set FrstName LastName as the Default "File as" order.
However
when
I
click on my contacts, the form displays Lastname, FirstName in
the
File
As
box

This is a nagging problem for me. Any assistance will be
appreciated
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

I'm not so sure about that. If you search, you'll see that this same code
has been placed in the KB for every version of Outlook, starting with
Outlook 97.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Don 'Bear' Wilkinson said:
Great reference Russ. Thanks!

I do note however that the article lists ONLY OL2002 as applicable.
Hmmmm

Judging by the KB number, which I gather are/were assigned in sequence,
I surmise that this article appeared after this solution, or a close
variant, was 'discovered' and created by a independent third party. I
attempted to attribute it to Slipstick, but again, I am not sure who did
it 'first'. Heck, I don't even know how much this particular code
resembles that to which I am referring. May be rather different.

Still, looks like Microsoft did a very good job of 'assimilating' other
people's technology solutions with the obstensibly noble purpose of
helping their customers. Something they have spent a lot of money on to
date. You know, how they buy up little software concerns so as to be
able to add features that previously were part of a shareware or
freeware application that millions of users downloaded and installed
themselves because the feature is so great and useful that it becomes
obvious someone in development at MS should have thought of it a long
time ago?!?! :)

Bear

Russ Valentine said:
Actually, that code resides in the KB. Take a look at this MS KB article, it
may help:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q291/1/44.asp

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Don 'Bear' Wilkinson said:
Nick,
you will find that people's answers in NGs tend to be terse. Short and
to the point. One does well to read *very* carefully. The answer is
not always spelled out and you have to read between the lines or
compensate for sloppy grammar and people who are in a hurry. Is this
case, Russ had already said "Those settings will not affect existing
Contacts." But, I can see where that was not terribly clear. I had to
read it twice to grasp the relevance, myself. And it was easier for me
to make it click since I have previously learned of the behavior.

That said, what Russ did not mention is that there are a couple of
solutions for this 'out there.' I'm thinking it was slipstick.com (and
the fabulous Sue Mosher and crowd) where I learned of a short Outlook
VBA(?) app that would go through *existing* contact records and reset
them to a new "FileAs" format. Sorry, but I don't have a handy link or
more info, but I'm pretty sure it can be found.

Bear



thanks

Then that is why you do not see the File As order in your new
default.
Your
new default will only apply to new Contacts, not existing ones.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I read it. I am not clicking on a new form

Correct.
Did you read my post?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I have an existing Contact Folder with over 3000 contacts. If
I
bring
up
the form for any individual existing contact I see in File as
box:
Last
name, first name, even after I go to Tools, Options, Contact
Options
and
set
Default File As to First Last
I am using XP Professional and Outlook 2002

message
I can't repro that.
Are you clicking on a new Contact Form?
Those settings will not affect existing Contacts.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I have set FrstName LastName as the Default "File as"
order.
However
when
I
click on my contacts, the form displays Lastname,
FirstName in
the
File
As
box

This is a nagging problem for me. Any assistance will be
appreciated
 

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