default template vs. normal template Word 2004

[neva]

to all you tip and tricks-ters:

there is a command for a new "Normal" template and a command for a new
"default" template.

At the moment the "default" template appears to be set to the normal
template.

How do I change the default template to one I've designed myself?
Any clues?

Thanks,
Neva

 

[Dayo Mitchell]

Hi Neva,

Can you say more about where these two commands are? Not yet in Word 2004.

Re changing your default template....

You can customize Normal, if you want, to some extent. Or I would suggest
recording a macro of you selecting your template in File | Project Gallery
to create a new doc from. Then you can put a toolbar icon for that macro up,
or even remap cmd-N to call that macro instead of File | New Blank Doc.

Post back if you have no clue how to create a macro and assign it to icons
or shortcuts, and Help doesn't help.

DM

 

[Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.]

Hi Neva,

Can you say more about where these two commands are? Not yet in Word 2004.

Re changing your default template....

You can customize Normal, if you want, to some extent. Or I would suggest
recording a macro of you selecting your template in File | Project Gallery
to create a new doc from. Then you can put a toolbar icon for that macro up,
or even remap cmd-N to call that macro instead of File | New Blank Doc.

Post back if you have no clue how to create a macro and assign it to icons
or shortcuts, and Help doesn't help.

DM

:

I've done this in the past on older Word versions but am unsure if it would work in
2004 and where to put it.

I have opena a balnk document. then mad changes as to Font, Marginss and whether I
had a header or footer. Then save as normal. quit Word. Located the original
"normal" file and squrrelled it away for safe keeping then replace it with the new
version. when I next opened word Voila!! The normal view exibits my new margins,
header/footers and Fonts I set.

That was back though in the word 6.0.1a (Office42) days before the need for three
letter extensions.

For myself. I prefer to use a Font called Beguiat. to me it is an excellently
readable font. so I've always used it since I have installed it. Another one I use
though not as frequently is Bookman and for headlines I like Copper Black.

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[neva]

Sure-

Look in the Customize toolbars / menus box.
You can get to it by clicking the triangle at the end of a toolbar.

I assigned a keyboard command to it.

Go to Commands, and select All commands.
Scroll down to FileNewDefalt and FileNew
Right now they both say normal template. I was hoping to find a way to get
one to say open a new document based on [Neva's template]

I certainly don't want to mess with my Normal template. I have too much data
stored there.

I've make keystroke macros, assigned them hot keys, and even assigned them a
picture from the set offered when you look in the command properties box, at
the drop-down list where the icon is shown.

I could do that for opening one of my templates as well, no doubt.

Just thought since there were actually different commands listed in the set
of commands for FileNew and FileNewDefault, there might be a handy, pre-set
way of doing it.

talk to you later-
njs

 

[Beth Rosengard]

Ohhhh! Both Dayo and I are in Word 2001 and we don't have this command. So
hold tight. I've asked for an explanation and will post it as soon as it's
available.

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Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org>

Sure-

Look in the Customize toolbars / menus box.
You can get to it by clicking the triangle at the end of a toolbar.

I assigned a keyboard command to it.

Go to Commands, and select All commands.
Scroll down to FileNewDefalt and FileNew
Right now they both say normal template. I was hoping to find a way to get
one to say open a new document based on [Neva's template]

I certainly don't want to mess with my Normal template. I have too much data
stored there.

I've make keystroke macros, assigned them hot keys, and even assigned them a
picture from the set offered when you look in the command properties box, at
the drop-down list where the icon is shown.

I could do that for opening one of my templates as well, no doubt.

Just thought since there were actually different commands listed in the set
of commands for FileNew and FileNewDefault, there might be a handy, pre-set
way of doing it.

talk to you later-
njs

Hi Neva,

Can you say more about where these two commands are? Not yet in Word 2004.

Re changing your default template....

You can customize Normal, if you want, to some extent. Or I would suggest
recording a macro of you selecting your template in File | Project Gallery
to create a new doc from. Then you can put a toolbar icon for that macro up,
or even remap cmd-N to call that macro instead of File | New Blank Doc.

Post back if you have no clue how to create a macro and assign it to icons
or shortcuts, and Help doesn't help.

DM

 

[John McGhie]

Ah hah! You certainly had ME going there for a while

Command + n is "FileNew" it creates a new document based on the Default
Global Template which is the template in your User Templates location named
"Normal".

Command + Shift + p is misnamed. It's actually "Display the Project
Gallery" which enables you to choose which template you wish to create a new
document from.

To create a new document based on a specified template other than Normal,
open the Template and choose Work>Add to work menu. Or, turn on the Macro
Recorder and then use the Project Gallery to create a document from the
template concerned. Drag the macro you have created to a toolbar, or use
Customise to assign it a keystroke.

Hope this helps

Sure-

Look in the Customize toolbars / menus box.
You can get to it by clicking the triangle at the end of a toolbar.

I assigned a keyboard command to it.

Go to Commands, and select All commands.
Scroll down to FileNewDefalt and FileNew
Right now they both say normal template. I was hoping to find a way to get
one to say open a new document based on [Neva's template]

I certainly don't want to mess with my Normal template. I have too much data
stored there.

I've make keystroke macros, assigned them hot keys, and even assigned them a
picture from the set offered when you look in the command properties box, at
the drop-down list where the icon is shown.

I could do that for opening one of my templates as well, no doubt.

Just thought since there were actually different commands listed in the set
of commands for FileNew and FileNewDefault, there might be a handy, pre-set
way of doing it.

talk to you later-
njs

Hi Neva,

Can you say more about where these two commands are? Not yet in Word 2004.

Re changing your default template....

You can customize Normal, if you want, to some extent. Or I would suggest
recording a macro of you selecting your template in File | Project Gallery
to create a new doc from. Then you can put a toolbar icon for that macro up,
or even remap cmd-N to call that macro instead of File | New Blank Doc.

Post back if you have no clue how to create a macro and assign it to icons
or shortcuts, and Help doesn't help.

DM

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[neva]

Thanks for looking into it -
It isn't an emergency - just something I want to do to make things easier as
I go along.

neva

 

[Beth Rosengard]

Hi Neva,

Sorry, I was wrong ... again. Don't know how I missed it but we do have all
those commands in Word 2001. Regardless, I will post a clarification when I
get one.

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Mac MVP

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[Dayo Mitchell]

To create a new document based on a specified template other than Normal,
open the Template and choose Work>Add to work menu.

New feature? This gets me the actual template in Word 2001.

Dayo

 

[neva]

Well - guess it's good to keep everyone on their toes...

anyway, will try the Add to Work idea. Already use macro.
Just thought it if was built in, there might be an easy, simple way to do
that.


As for Dayo's comment - probably the thing to do is open a new doc based on
the template... then when you use it, do a "save as" the first time and give
it a different name. That way you keep the empty doc in the Work menu, but
have the doc you've written on saved under its own name and in its place.


Now, let's see what other trouble I can dream up while writing this
report... it just goes on and on.

Neva

Ah hah! You certainly had ME going there for a while

Command + n is "FileNew" it creates a new document based on the Default
Global Template which is the template in your User Templates location named
"Normal".

Command + Shift + p is misnamed. It's actually "Display the Project
Gallery" which enables you to choose which template you wish to create a new
document from.

To create a new document based on a specified template other than Normal,
open the Template and choose Work>Add to work menu. Or, turn on the Macro
Recorder and then use the Project Gallery to create a document from the
template concerned. Drag the macro you have created to a toolbar, or use
Customise to assign it a keystroke.

Hope this helps

Sure-

Look in the Customize toolbars / menus box.
You can get to it by clicking the triangle at the end of a toolbar.

I assigned a keyboard command to it.

Go to Commands, and select All commands.
Scroll down to FileNewDefalt and FileNew
Right now they both say normal template. I was hoping to find a way to get
one to say open a new document based on [Neva's template]

I certainly don't want to mess with my Normal template. I have too much data
stored there.

I've make keystroke macros, assigned them hot keys, and even assigned them a
picture from the set offered when you look in the command properties box, at
the drop-down list where the icon is shown.

I could do that for opening one of my templates as well, no doubt.

Just thought since there were actually different commands listed in the set
of commands for FileNew and FileNewDefault, there might be a handy, pre-set
way of doing it.

talk to you later-
njs

Hi Neva,

Can you say more about where these two commands are? Not yet in Word 2004.

Re changing your default template....

You can customize Normal, if you want, to some extent. Or I would suggest
recording a macro of you selecting your template in File | Project Gallery
to create a new doc from. Then you can put a toolbar icon for that macro up,
or even remap cmd-N to call that macro instead of File | New Blank Doc.

Post back if you have no clue how to create a macro and assign it to icons
or shortcuts, and Help doesn't help.

DM

:


to all you tip and tricks-ters:

there is a command for a new "Normal" template and a command for a new
"default" template.

At the moment the "default" template appears to be set to the normal
template.

How do I change the default template to one I've designed myself?
Any clues?

Thanks,
Neva

 

[Beth Rosengard]

Hi John,

To create a new document based on a specified template other than Normal,
open the Template and choose Work>Add to work menu.

Did you mean to say: Create a new document based on the Template and then
add that document to the Work menu (as Neva suggested)? Because as Dayo
said, dragging the template there gets you the template, not a document
based on it.

So now that I have a template on my Work menu which I don't want there, how
do I get rid of it? The Help (Word 2001) says to hit Command, Option and
Minus; and then click on the document to remove it. That doesn't work: The
cursor does not change to a minus sign like it's supposed to.

So I googled and found an old post of yours where you said to use Tools>
Customize to drag Work off the menu, quit and reopen Word, and then put it
back. That didn't work either. When I put it back, the template was still
there.

So I guess I'm down to tossing Normal and/or Word settings, right? What a
pain!

Beth

 

[Beth Rosengard]

Hi Neva,

Okay, I think I've gotten to the bottom of it. The problem lies in your
assumption that both FileNew and FileNewDefault open a document based on
Normal. That is true for FileNewDefault, but *not* for FileNew.

FileNew opens the *Project Gallery*, not a document!

Mystery solved (I hope .

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Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/WordMac/index.htm>
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[JE McGimpsey]

New feature? This gets me the actual template in Word 2001.

Works the same way in 2004

 

[neva]

Mystery is solved -
too bad it wasn't what I thought, though.
Another topic for feedback - allowing the user to add shortcuts to their
favorite templates in a way that gives them the same 1 step access they have
to docs based on normal.

thanks,
neva

 

[Clive Huggan]

Comments inline.

Clive

===============

Hi John,



Did you mean to say: Create a new document based on the Template and then
add that document to the Work menu (as Neva suggested)? Because as Dayo
said, dragging the template there gets you the template, not a document
based on it.

So now that I have a template on my Work menu which I don't want there, how
do I get rid of it? The Help (Word 2001) says to hit Command, Option and
Minus; and then click on the document to remove it. That doesn't work: The
cursor does not change to a minus sign like it's supposed to.

Do you use the minus at the top of the keyboard, Beth? That works for me and
on colleagues' Macs (Word 2001).

So I googled and found an old post of yours where you said to use Tools>
Customize to drag Work off the menu, quit and reopen Word, and then put it
back. That didn't work either.

In Word 2001, that didn't work for me, because after doing Tools ->
Customize the "temporary" Work menu only showed "Add to menu" and "(List of
Work files)". Scrolling to the Work menu in the "Customize" window, I could
not remove menu items.

 

[Beth Rosengard]

Do you use the minus at the top of the keyboard, Beth? That works for me and
on colleagues' Macs (Word 2001).

What can I say? It just worked! And, yes, I *had* tried the minus at the
top of the keyboard before, with no result. <sigh> Just one of those
things I guess, but thanks for prompting me to try it again!

Cheers,

Beth

 

[Clive Huggan]

What can I say? It just worked! And, yes, I *had* tried the minus at the
top of the keyboard before, with no result. <sigh> Just one of those
things I guess, but thanks for prompting me to try it again!

Cheers,

Beth

Beth, Just chalk it up on the account that has squillions of Bethisms on the
one side and this one on the other!

Cheers,

Clive

 

[John McGhie]

Hi Neva:

Well, of course that's what The World + Dog actually *does* But it's
not the technique we teach around here.

When you copy a document based on a template, you get a copy of the
document, not the template. So you get to keep all those lovely corruptions
the user has hacked and chopped into the document.

If you base on a template, you get a nice clean document produced from a
template sterilised by someone who (hopefully) knew what they were doing.

Cheers

Well - guess it's good to keep everyone on their toes...

anyway, will try the Add to Work idea. Already use macro.
Just thought it if was built in, there might be an easy, simple way to do
that.


As for Dayo's comment - probably the thing to do is open a new doc based on
the template... then when you use it, do a "save as" the first time and give
it a different name. That way you keep the empty doc in the Work menu, but
have the doc you've written on saved under its own name and in its place.


Now, let's see what other trouble I can dream up while writing this
report... it just goes on and on.

Neva

Ah hah! You certainly had ME going there for a while

Command + n is "FileNew" it creates a new document based on the Default
Global Template which is the template in your User Templates location named
"Normal".

Command + Shift + p is misnamed. It's actually "Display the Project
Gallery" which enables you to choose which template you wish to create a new
document from.

To create a new document based on a specified template other than Normal,
open the Template and choose Work>Add to work menu. Or, turn on the Macro
Recorder and then use the Project Gallery to create a document from the
template concerned. Drag the macro you have created to a toolbar, or use
Customise to assign it a keystroke.

Hope this helps

Sure-

Look in the Customize toolbars / menus box.
You can get to it by clicking the triangle at the end of a toolbar.

I assigned a keyboard command to it.

Go to Commands, and select All commands.
Scroll down to FileNewDefalt and FileNew
Right now they both say normal template. I was hoping to find a way to get
one to say open a new document based on [Neva's template]

I certainly don't want to mess with my Normal template. I have too much data
stored there.

I've make keystroke macros, assigned them hot keys, and even assigned them a
picture from the set offered when you look in the command properties box, at
the drop-down list where the icon is shown.

I could do that for opening one of my templates as well, no doubt.

Just thought since there were actually different commands listed in the set
of commands for FileNew and FileNewDefault, there might be a handy, pre-set
way of doing it.

talk to you later-
njs




On 5/24/04 11:43 AM, in article
BCD79E74.2E5FC%[email protected], "Dayo Mitchell"

Hi Neva,

Can you say more about where these two commands are? Not yet in Word 2004.

Re changing your default template....

You can customize Normal, if you want, to some extent. Or I would suggest
recording a macro of you selecting your template in File | Project Gallery
to create a new doc from. Then you can put a toolbar icon for that macro
up,
or even remap cmd-N to call that macro instead of File | New Blank Doc.

Post back if you have no clue how to create a macro and assign it to icons
or shortcuts, and Help doesn't help.

DM

:


to all you tip and tricks-ters:

there is a command for a new "Normal" template and a command for a new
"default" template.

At the moment the "default" template appears to be set to the normal
template.

How do I change the default template to one I've designed myself?
Any clues?

Thanks,
Neva

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Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

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Consultant Technical Writer
Sydney, Australia +61 4 1209 1410

 

[John McGhie]

Oh, it's a bug in Mac Word

On the PC, if you attempt to "Open" a template any way except File>Open,
you'll get a copy.

On the Mac, you either have to include an AutoOpen macro that says "If I am
the template make a copy of me and prompt to save" or you have to mark the
damned thing as Stationery!

Sorry about that

Hi John,



Did you mean to say: Create a new document based on the Template and then
add that document to the Work menu (as Neva suggested)? Because as Dayo
said, dragging the template there gets you the template, not a document
based on it.

So now that I have a template on my Work menu which I don't want there, how
do I get rid of it? The Help (Word 2001) says to hit Command, Option and
Minus; and then click on the document to remove it. That doesn't work: The
cursor does not change to a minus sign like it's supposed to.

So I googled and found an old post of yours where you said to use Tools>
Customize to drag Work off the menu, quit and reopen Word, and then put it
back. That didn't work either. When I put it back, the template was still
there.

So I guess I'm down to tossing Normal and/or Word settings, right? What a
pain!

Beth

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me unless I ask you to.

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[Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.]

Hi John,




Did you mean to say: Create a new document based on the Template and then
add that document to the Work menu (as Neva suggested)? Because as Dayo
said, dragging the template there gets you the template, not a document
based on it.

So now that I have a template on my Work menu which I don't want there, how
do I get rid of it? The Help (Word 2001) says to hit Command, Option and
Minus; and then click on the document to remove it. That doesn't work: The
cursor does not change to a minus sign like it's supposed to.

So I googled and found an old post of yours where you said to use Tools>
Customize to drag Work off the menu, quit and reopen Word, and then put it
back. That didn't work either. When I put it back, the template was still
there.

So I guess I'm down to tossing Normal and/or Word settings, right? What a
pain!

Beth

I found a simple way to create a customized Normal template.

Open Word2004 to blank document create your formatting changes. Save the Blank
document right after making the changes. Now imediately quit Word.

Word will ask do you wish to formatting changes part of Normal? (something similar?).

Choose Yes(okay). Let Word Quit.

Now reopen word and your formatting changes will be there.

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