Desparately Seeking a Solution

P

Parvardigar

Hello

I know this is very basic -creating a booklet, folding, and stapling.

I don't know what it is but my mind simply shuts down. I've spent
days, literally, working page by page, writing it out, labeling an so
forth -and the finished publication is wrong.

It's a sixty page booklet. I can't figure out the math. I duplex print
pages 1- 8. I fold it, and cut it. Now I have an 8 page booklet. I
examine the front cover and back page. That becomes number 1 (front) 4
(back). I see that page 6 follows the cover page. Here I can insert
the index. I see that the page before the last page is 7. However, if
I am careful ( I have to manually turn the paper to print the other
side) and print all 40 pages -I get completely lost. If I want let
says all my pictures to be in the very middle pages they end up
scattered here and there. If I wanted my recipes to paste through
pages 25-38 -those end up out of sequence.

I know most of humanity could figure this out. My mind is remarkable
in that in this simple act of printing and folding I can't create the
perfect arrangement. If I add 'page numbers' -for example -in my
mind's eye the last page should be 40. The next to the last page
should be 39. Publisher assigns last page 4 and second to last page 7.

So adding page number is anti productive. Can publisher figure out its
a booklet (side fold card -fold it in half -fold it again -8 pages)
and added pages 1-40? When I fold, and staple, I have this order
1,6,5,2,3,8,7,4 ....- so I'm asking can't publisher intuit -and
convert 1,6,5,2,3,8,7,4 into 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8! This is my predicument.
I can't figure out how to work the number sequences to get my pages in
the proper order.

Desparately seeking a solution. Thanks
 
J

John Inzer

Parvardigar said:
Hello

I know this is very basic -creating a booklet, folding, and stapling.

I don't know what it is but my mind simply shuts down. I've spent
days, literally, working page by page, writing it out, labeling an so
forth -and the finished publication is wrong.

It's a sixty page booklet. I can't figure out the math. I duplex print
pages 1- 8. I fold it, and cut it. Now I have an 8 page booklet. I
examine the front cover and back page. That becomes number 1 (front) 4
(back). I see that page 6 follows the cover page. Here I can insert
the index. I see that the page before the last page is 7. However, if
I am careful ( I have to manually turn the paper to print the other
side) and print all 40 pages -I get completely lost. If I want let
says all my pictures to be in the very middle pages they end up
scattered here and there. If I wanted my recipes to paste through
pages 25-38 -those end up out of sequence.

I know most of humanity could figure this out. My mind is remarkable
in that in this simple act of printing and folding I can't create the
perfect arrangement. If I add 'page numbers' -for example -in my
mind's eye the last page should be 40. The next to the last page
should be 39. Publisher assigns last page 4 and second to last page 7.

So adding page number is anti productive. Can publisher figure out its
a booklet (side fold card -fold it in half -fold it again -8 pages)
and added pages 1-40? When I fold, and staple, I have this order
1,6,5,2,3,8,7,4 ....- so I'm asking can't publisher intuit -and
convert 1,6,5,2,3,8,7,4 into 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8! This is my predicument.
I can't figure out how to work the number sequences to get my pages in
the proper order.

Desparately seeking a solution. Thanks
===========================
I'm confused about the folding...
Is this document created on 8 full
size 8.5"x11" sheets?

I can't see how you get 40 pages
from 8 sheets.

What is the finished size of the
document?

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

It's the new math you don't understand; 8x4=40
:)



--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression





| Parvardigar wrote:
| > Hello
| >
| > I know this is very basic -creating a booklet, folding, and stapling.
| >
| > I don't know what it is but my mind simply shuts down. I've spent
| > days, literally, working page by page, writing it out, labeling an so
| > forth -and the finished publication is wrong.
| >
| > It's a sixty page booklet. I can't figure out the math. I duplex print
| > pages 1- 8. I fold it, and cut it. Now I have an 8 page booklet. I
| > examine the front cover and back page. That becomes number 1 (front) 4
| > (back). I see that page 6 follows the cover page. Here I can insert
| > the index. I see that the page before the last page is 7. However, if
| > I am careful ( I have to manually turn the paper to print the other
| > side) and print all 40 pages -I get completely lost. If I want let
| > says all my pictures to be in the very middle pages they end up
| > scattered here and there. If I wanted my recipes to paste through
| > pages 25-38 -those end up out of sequence.
| >
| > I know most of humanity could figure this out. My mind is remarkable
| > in that in this simple act of printing and folding I can't create the
| > perfect arrangement. If I add 'page numbers' -for example -in my
| > mind's eye the last page should be 40. The next to the last page
| > should be 39. Publisher assigns last page 4 and second to last page 7.
| >
| > So adding page number is anti productive. Can publisher figure out its
| > a booklet (side fold card -fold it in half -fold it again -8 pages)
| > and added pages 1-40? When I fold, and staple, I have this order
| > 1,6,5,2,3,8,7,4 ....- so I'm asking can't publisher intuit -and
| > convert 1,6,5,2,3,8,7,4 into 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8! This is my predicument.
| > I can't figure out how to work the number sequences to get my pages in
| > the proper order.
| >
| > Desparately seeking a solution. Thanks
| ===========================
| I'm confused about the folding...
| Is this document created on 8 full
| size 8.5"x11" sheets?
|
| I can't see how you get 40 pages
| from 8 sheets.
|
| What is the finished size of the
| document?
|
| --
|
| John Inzer
| MS Picture It! -
| Digital Image MVP
|
| Digital Image
| Highlights and FAQs
| http://tinyurl.com/aczzp
|
| Notice
| This is not tech support
| I am a volunteer
|
| Solutions that work for
| me may not work for you
|
| Proceed at your own risk
|
|
 
E

Ed Bennett

Parvardigar said:
It's a sixty page booklet. ....
and print all 40 pages

Is it 40 or 60 pages?

A 40-page booklet fold document will come out in the following sequence

40+1 <~~ Rear + Front covers
2+39

38+3
4+37

36+5
6+35

34+7
8+33

32+9
10+31

30+11
12+29

28+13
14+27

26+15
16+25

24+17
18+23

22+19
20+21 <~~ Centrefold

Each line represents one printed page, in the form LeftPage#+RightPage#.
Each two-line pair represents the front and back side of one piece of paper.

If you print the document and auto-duplex it, it should come out of the
printer ready to fold (either that or you'll need to exactly reverse the
order of the pages).

If you manually duplex by taking each odd page as it comes out of the
printer and putting it back into the printer to print the corresponding
even page, then the same will apply.

If you duplex by printing odd pages first then even pages (or
vice-versa; possibly using a PDF file intermediary) then the same will
apply.

The ordering of the 8-page sub-booklet does not correspond directly to
the ordering of the 40-page whole-booklet.
 
J

John Inzer

Rob said:
It's the new math you don't understand; 8x4=40
:)
=======================
Okay...I didn't think of that :eek:)


--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
M

Mary Sauer

If you are printing the whole 40 pages on the first run, when you turn your
pages over to print the over side, alternate the pages in the stack. You should
end up with two booklets.

If you want to print one page at a time, clear 2 page view in the View menu.
Starting with page one, print, current page, click no to the query. Turn the
page over, go to page two, print current page, click no and so on....

Publisher works in groups of four. 40 pages will be 10 sheets of paper, 60 will
be 15.
 
P

Parvardigar

If you are printing the whole 40 pages on the first run, when you turn your
pages over to print the over side, alternate the pages in the stack. You should
end up with two booklets.

If you want to print one page at a time, clear 2 page view in the View menu.
Starting with page one, print, current page, click no to the query. Turn the
page over, go to page two, print current page, click no and so on....

Publisher works in groups of four. 40 pages will be 10 sheets of paper, 60 will
be 15.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVPhttp://office.microsoft.com/http://msauer.mvps.org/
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Yes. Thank you. One post wanted to know the 8 page booklet. That was
just a reference. A test. That's how I fiddled. In actuality it would
be twenty sheets of paper. I would print one side (ie 1-4) - reinsert -
and print (ie 5-8) as illustrated in the above postings. This math
formulae is exceptional. Thanks
 

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