Diacritics in Office 2004

I

iva

Hi,

could anyone help me. I am trying to use some diacritics in Word 2004,
but seem only to be able to insert them if I use Character Palette or
changing the keyboard language, both of which take time (I am writting
in English but some place/people names need letters with accents on
them).

What I would like to be able to do is set-up shortcut keys for letters
like š. I cannot seem to find them when I go to Insert>symbol and
hence cannot do it.

Thanks

Ivan
 
C

CyberTaz

Hello Ivan-

I don't use them enought to have them committed to memory, but if you check
word Help the keystrokes are listed there. Am not at my Mac right now, but
try Cmd+[diacritic], [character] & see if that's right.

HTH |:>)

Hi,

could anyone help me. I am trying to use some diacritics in Word 2004,
but seem only to be able to insert them if I use Character Palette or
changing the keyboard language, both of which take time (I am writting
in English but some place/people names need letters with accents on
them).

What I would like to be able to do is set-up shortcut keys for letters
like s. I cannot seem to find them when I go to Insert>symbol and
hence cannot do it.

Thanks

Ivan
 
R

Rob Daly [MSFT]

Unfortunately, Diacritics are not currently supported in Word's unicode
story. They will display but the dual glyphs will be misaligned and
ultimately just get screwed up. So you are still able to insert them, but it
is not advisable as they won't work correctly.

Apologies...


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C

CyberTaz

Thanks for the update, Rob!

I thought that might be the case in '04, but hadn't had an opportunity to
test it, Just hoped it might not be quite that unreliable. |:>)

Rob Daly said:
Unfortunately, Diacritics are not currently supported in Word's unicode
story. They will display but the dual glyphs will be misaligned and
ultimately just get screwed up. So you are still able to insert them, but it
is not advisable as they won't work correctly.

Apologies...


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Macintosh Business Unit
Word Test

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CyberTaz said:
Hello Ivan-

I don't use them enought to have them committed to memory, but if you
check
word Help the keystrokes are listed there. Am not at my Mac right now, but
try Cmd+[diacritic], [character] & see if that's right.

HTH |:>)

Hi,

could anyone help me. I am trying to use some diacritics in Word 2004,
but seem only to be able to insert them if I use Character Palette or
changing the keyboard language, both of which take time (I am writting
in English but some place/people names need letters with accents on
them).

What I would like to be able to do is set-up shortcut keys for letters
like s. I cannot seem to find them when I go to Insert>symbol and
hence cannot do it.

Thanks

Ivan
 
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Daiya Mitchell

I thought somebody recently posted a workaround that involving entering the
characters in TextEdit and copying them in Word, after which they worked
fine. Sound familiar? I wonder if that could be automated via AutoCorrect?
 
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Rob Daly [MSFT]

To the best of my knowledge, that doesn't work - that is, unless I'm missing
something. I tried it just now and I still see the word problems. I'd be
interested to hear about it if anyone finds a workaround - I can't see how
it would be possible.


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Macintosh Business Unit
Word Test

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Daiya Mitchell

Hi Rob,

I remembered it wrong, I don't deal with non-roman languages so it was just
an interesting curiosity. Okay, I had to go back a ways (2/28), but it's
the " Re: Entering Hebrew Text in Word 2004 for Mac" thread on the MacWord
group, and Chris's third post says this:
___

Thanks for your extensive information. I tried one of your suggestions, and
typed the phrase ש×Ö¸×œ×•Ö¹× into TextEdit and saved it as an RTF document.
When I opened this document in Word (Mac 2004), it rendered the Hebrew
incorrectly (consonant order was reversed, and diacritical positioning was
wrong).

However, TextEdit, also has an option to save a document into whatever Apple
calls “Word†format (a “.doc†extension was added to my file name), rather
than RTF. I did this, and when I open this .doc file into word, all of the
Apple unicode characters were rendered correctly in Word, right-to-left, and
with the diacriticals in the right place! Yeah!

Additionally, I found that I’m able to copy/paste these characters easily
once they are in Word. They can be copied and pasted successfully between
Word documents as well.

For my purposes, this workaround is sufficient. Thanks again for your help.
_____

I have no idea whether this applies to the problem at hand, but it may. I
think Paul came back with a speculation as to why it worked. So I was
wondering if one could go further, and copy the proper character into the
AutoCorrect box to create an AutoCorrect.

Daiya
 
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Paul Berkowitz

Daiya,

I doubt that pasting into an auto-correct entry, as opposed to pasting into
a Word doc, will work correctly. I suppose it's worth trying. Word would
still have to _generate_ not paste, the text. Whatever it is that TextEdit
does when saving in its "Word-compatible" mode, is evidently respected by
Word 2004, just as it respects Word 2003 and 2002, when pasting. I doubt it
can generate things correctly, however.

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