Directing the FrontPage Search Engine

[Crlovel]

Hello,

My setup is a little complicated, so I will explain it as best I can. I have
a web server with FP Extensions running on my company's Intranet, with two
separate websites on it. One of the sites I use for working-on and editing
manuals, the other is used by the employees to view the finalized documents
after I publish them to it.

Within each of these websites are about 30 subsites. Each subsite houses a
manual with anywhere from five to 40 sections, each it's own separate htm
file. A Table of Contents, with a search engine, is the homepage for each of
these manuals.

For some reason, about half of the manuals search engines work exactly as
intended, and the search is contained within the subsite itself.

For the other half, the search engines go outside of the subsite. The
results will display both pages that are in the correct subsite (the path
reads http://...), and pages that are outside of the subsite and are not
accesssiblee (the path reads file:///c:/inetpub...). In addition, the results
(the ones that are not accessible) will turn up not only pages in the
subsites in the employee's website, but also pages in the subsites on MY
website, which is in a different directory (same machine, though).

I can find no differences between the search engines that work, and the ones
that don't. I've uninstalled and re-installed them, re-published entire
subsites, etc, with no results. My tech support department is not being very
helpful in the matter.

Anyone else have any suggestions?

Thank you much,

Chris

 

[Crlovel]

I posted this one by mistake. The other thread has a better description of my
setup. If possible, Moderators please delete this thread.

Thank you much, and sorry for the double-post!

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Ok, it sound like at some point you open and worked on your site as a disk-based web (drive letter
access vs. http access from within FP.

You may also have to create individual Index Server catalog for each subweb / subsite and use ASP
manage the individual Index Server searches.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================

 

[Crlovel]

That could be the case. The site was originally started as a disk-based
system, not http. To correct the problem, do I need to re-create all of the
subsites that are not behaving as they should?

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Yes, but you still may have a problem if you use the same subweb/site names that are bad.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================

 

[Crlovel]

Noted. I'm using underscores instead, and re-creating shared borders and
themes. So far, so good, and the new sites are working.

One more question. How can I keep the search engines from searching folders
that are supposed to be hidden? They're going into folders such as "_themes"
and "_borders".

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Not sure how to solve that. You might want to post to the Windows Server and/or Index Server
newsgroups regarding that. The default when working with the search from within FP is to exclude any
folder the begins with a underscore.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================

 

[Mike Mueller]

If you have access to the IIS snap-in, you may be able to
curb the index server's appetite by viewing the directories
properties and making sure the 'Index this Resource' box is
not checked- doesn't always work that way.

I am currently developing a search based on the Index Server
also, but using ASP instead of the FPSE. The advantage here
is flexability allowed by using your own code, but the cost
of that is the knowledge prerequisite- it gets worse when
you want to start adding things in like I do....






: Not sure how to solve that. You might want to post to the
Windows Server and/or Index Server
: newsgroups regarding that. The default when working with
the search from within FP is to exclude any
: folder the begins with a underscore.
:
: --
: ==============================================
: Thomas A. Rowe
: Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
:
: http://www.Ecom-Data.com
: ==============================================
:
:
message
: : > Noted. I'm using underscores instead, and re-creating
shared borders and
: > themes. So far, so good, and the new sites are working.
: >
: > One more question. How can I keep the search engines
from searching folders
: > that are supposed to be hidden? They're going into
folders such as "_themes"
: > and "_borders".
: >
: > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
: >
: >> Yes, but you still may have a problem if you use the
same subweb/site names that are bad.
: >>
: >> --
: >> ==============================================
: >> Thomas A. Rowe
: >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: >>
: >> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
: >> ==============================================
: >>
: >>
message
: >>
: >> > That could be the case. The site was originally
started as a disk-based
: >> > system, not http. To correct the problem, do I need
to re-create all of the
: >> > subsites that are not behaving as they should?
: >> >
: >> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
: >> >
: >> >> Ok, it sound like at some point you open and worked
on your site as a disk-based web (drive
: >> >> letter
: >> >> access vs. http access from within FP.
: >> >>
: >> >> You may also have to create individual Index Server
catalog for each subweb / subsite and use
: >> >> ASP
: >> >> manage the individual Index Server searches.
: >> >>
: >> >> --
: >> >> ==============================================
: >> >> Thomas A. Rowe
: >> >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: >> >>
: >> >> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
: >> >> ==============================================
: >> >>
: >> >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
:
:

 

[Crlovel]

No, I don't have access to it, unfortunately. I was hoping that it was
something that I could do from my desktop. I will pass this info on to my
Tech Support group who does have access to it, though.

Thank you much for the information, I do appreciate it.

 

[Mike Mueller]

I haven't had much this way- I do my exclusions in the ASP
coding.


message
: No, I don't have access to it, unfortunately. I was hoping
that it was
: something that I could do from my desktop. I will pass
this info on to my
: Tech Support group who does have access to it, though.
:
: Thank you much for the information, I do appreciate it.
:
: "Mike Mueller" wrote:
:
: > If you have access to the IIS snap-in, you may be able
to
: > curb the index server's appetite by viewing the
directories
: > properties and making sure the 'Index this Resource' box
is
: > not checked- doesn't always work that way.
: >
: > I am currently developing a search based on the Index
Server
: > also, but using ASP instead of the FPSE. The advantage
here
: > is flexability allowed by using your own code, but the
cost
: > of that is the knowledge prerequisite- it gets worse
when
: > you want to start adding things in like I do....
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >
: > : > : Not sure how to solve that. You might want to post to
the
: > Windows Server and/or Index Server
: > : newsgroups regarding that. The default when working
with
: > the search from within FP is to exclude any
: > : folder the begins with a underscore.
: > :
: > : --
: > : ==============================================
: > : Thomas A. Rowe
: > : Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > :
: > : http://www.Ecom-Data.com
: > : ==============================================
: > :
: > :
: > message
: > :
: > : > Noted. I'm using underscores instead, and
re-creating
: > shared borders and
: > : > themes. So far, so good, and the new sites are
working.
: > : >
: > : > One more question. How can I keep the search engines
: > from searching folders
: > : > that are supposed to be hidden? They're going into
: > folders such as "_themes"
: > : > and "_borders".
: > : >
: > : > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
: > : >
: > : >> Yes, but you still may have a problem if you use
the
: > same subweb/site names that are bad.
: > : >>
: > : >> --
: > : >> ==============================================
: > : >> Thomas A. Rowe
: > : >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : >>
: > : >> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
: > : >> ==============================================
: > : >>
: > : >>
in
: > message
: > : >>
: >
: > : >> > That could be the case. The site was originally
: > started as a disk-based
: > : >> > system, not http. To correct the problem, do I
need
: > to re-create all of the
: > : >> > subsites that are not behaving as they should?
: > : >> >
: > : >> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
: > : >> >
: > : >> >> Ok, it sound like at some point you open and
worked
: > on your site as a disk-based web (drive
: > : >> >> letter
: > : >> >> access vs. http access from within FP.
: > : >> >>
: > : >> >> You may also have to create individual Index
Server
: > catalog for each subweb / subsite and use
: > : >> >> ASP
: > : >> >> manage the individual Index Server searches.
: > : >> >>
: > : >> >> --
: > : >> >> ==============================================
: > : >> >> Thomas A. Rowe
: > : >> >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : >> >>
: > : >> >> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
: > : >> >> ==============================================
: > : >> >>
: > : >> >>
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
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