discussion web problems

[nikkin]

I'm currently using FrontPage 2003
I've made a discussion web using the Discussion Web Wizard and put it on my web site. Whenever someone goes to the page to post a message, the Table Of Contents page that is supposed to show all the messages doesn't show any newly posted messages, even after the page is refreshed. The only time new messages show up is when I open FrontPage and save the TOC page. Then the posts will show up. The other weird thing is that when I view the TOC in design view in FrontPage, it will show all the posts, even new ones. But, when I preview the page in the browser all the posts that were added after I last saved the page disappear
I've put the pages on another web server here and it works fine, showing the posts immediately after the TOC page is refreshed.
Also, the search box isn't showing up. I'm not sure if it's related to what is going on with the discussion web though
Any ideas on what the problem is and how to fix it?

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Provide a URL to the DW online to look at
- presume by TOC you mean the tocproto.htm in the _disc folder




| I'm currently using FrontPage 2003.
| I've made a discussion web using the Discussion Web Wizard and put it on my web site. Whenever someone goes to the page to post a
message, the Table Of Contents page that is supposed to show all the messages doesn't show any newly posted messages, even after the
page is refreshed. The only time new messages show up is when I open FrontPage and save the TOC page. Then the posts will show up.
The other weird thing is that when I view the TOC in design view in FrontPage, it will show all the posts, even new ones. But, when
I preview the page in the browser all the posts that were added after I last saved the page disappear.
| I've put the pages on another web server here and it works fine, showing the posts immediately after the TOC page is refreshed.
| Also, the search box isn't showing up. I'm not sure if it's related to what is going on with the discussion web though.
| Any ideas on what the problem is and how to fix it?

 

[Nikki]

Here's the web site address:

http://ittraining.astate.edu/disc6_post.htm

It'll take you to the Post Message page. The pages are on
a test site right now, so just the pages to the
discussion web are working right now.

The TOC I referred to is the Table Of Contents page that
is supposed to show all the posts to that discussion web.

Thank you so much for any help you can give me. I'll take
any suggestions that you can offer. I appreciate it.

Nikki

-----Original Message-----
I'm currently using FrontPage 2003.
I've made a discussion web using the Discussion Web

Wizard and put it on my web site. Whenever someone goes
to the page to post a message, the Table Of Contents page
that is supposed to show all the messages doesn't show
any newly posted messages, even after the page is
refreshed. The only time new messages show up is when I
open FrontPage and save the TOC page. Then the posts will
show up. The other weird thing is that when I view the
TOC in design view in FrontPage, it will show all the
posts, even new ones. But, when I preview the page in the
browser all the posts that were added after I last saved
the page disappear.

I've put the pages on another web server here and it

works fine, showing the posts immediately after the TOC
page is refreshed.

Also, the search box isn't showing up. I'm not sure if

it's related to what is going on with the discussion web
though.

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Suspect the problem you are having is w/ the redirection to
http://its.astate.edu/ittraining/ from http://ittraining.astate.edu/




| Here's the web site address:
|
| http://ittraining.astate.edu/disc6_post.htm
|
| It'll take you to the Post Message page. The pages are on
| a test site right now, so just the pages to the
| discussion web are working right now.
|
| The TOC I referred to is the Table Of Contents page that
| is supposed to show all the posts to that discussion web.
|
| Thank you so much for any help you can give me. I'll take
| any suggestions that you can offer. I appreciate it.
|
| Nikki
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >I'm currently using FrontPage 2003.
| >I've made a discussion web using the Discussion Web
| Wizard and put it on my web site. Whenever someone goes
| to the page to post a message, the Table Of Contents page
| that is supposed to show all the messages doesn't show
| any newly posted messages, even after the page is
| refreshed. The only time new messages show up is when I
| open FrontPage and save the TOC page. Then the posts will
| show up. The other weird thing is that when I view the
| TOC in design view in FrontPage, it will show all the
| posts, even new ones. But, when I preview the page in the
| browser all the posts that were added after I last saved
| the page disappear.
| >I've put the pages on another web server here and it
| works fine, showing the posts immediately after the TOC
| page is refreshed.
| >Also, the search box isn't showing up. I'm not sure if
| it's related to what is going on with the discussion web
| though.
| >Any ideas on what the problem is and how to fix it?
| >.
| >

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

PS

A DW is always best created as a subweb of its own (if your host supports subwebs)
Open you online web in FP
(File Open Web/Site and enter http://www.its.astate.edu/)
Delete all the DW related pages you now have
Then create a folder (say forum) and right click it to convert to web
Double click the forum subweb folder to open it and use File New Web (in current web) and select the DW template (do not rename or
move any of the files / folders FP creates)




| Suspect the problem you are having is w/ the redirection to
| http://its.astate.edu/ittraining/ from http://ittraining.astate.edu/
|
| --
|
| _____________________________________________
| SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| _____________________________________________
|
|
| | Here's the web site address:
| |
| | http://ittraining.astate.edu/disc6_post.htm
| |
| | It'll take you to the Post Message page. The pages are on
| | a test site right now, so just the pages to the
| | discussion web are working right now.
| |
| | The TOC I referred to is the Table Of Contents page that
| | is supposed to show all the posts to that discussion web.
| |
| | Thank you so much for any help you can give me. I'll take
| | any suggestions that you can offer. I appreciate it.
| |
| | Nikki
| |
| | >-----Original Message-----
| | >I'm currently using FrontPage 2003.
| | >I've made a discussion web using the Discussion Web
| | Wizard and put it on my web site. Whenever someone goes
| | to the page to post a message, the Table Of Contents page
| | that is supposed to show all the messages doesn't show
| | any newly posted messages, even after the page is
| | refreshed. The only time new messages show up is when I
| | open FrontPage and save the TOC page. Then the posts will
| | show up. The other weird thing is that when I view the
| | TOC in design view in FrontPage, it will show all the
| | posts, even new ones. But, when I preview the page in the
| | browser all the posts that were added after I last saved
| | the page disappear.
| | >I've put the pages on another web server here and it
| | works fine, showing the posts immediately after the TOC
| | page is refreshed.
| | >Also, the search box isn't showing up. I'm not sure if
| | it's related to what is going on with the discussion web
| | though.
| | >Any ideas on what the problem is and how to fix it?
| | >.
| | >
|
|

 

[Nikki]

I've tried it on a web without a redirection page and I
get the same results. Our web master tried to build the
dicussion web in its own subweb and that didn't work
either.
Any other suggestions?
Is there anything that might make you think that we
should go so far as to reinstall the Server Extensions?
That option has been presented to us, but we haven't
tried it just yet.
Thanks!

Nikki

-----Original Message-----
PS

A DW is always best created as a subweb of its own (if your host supports subwebs)
Open you online web in FP
(File Open Web/Site and enter http://www.its.astate.edu/)
Delete all the DW related pages you now have
Then create a folder (say forum) and right click it to convert to web
Double click the forum subweb folder to open it and use

File New Web (in current web) and select the DW template
(do not rename or

move any of the files / folders FP creates)




"Stefan B Rusynko" <[email protected]> wrote in

message news:[email protected]...

| Suspect the problem you are having is w/ the redirection to
| http://its.astate.edu/ittraining/ from http://ittraining.astate.edu/
|
| --
|
| _____________________________________________
| SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| _____________________________________________
|
|
| "Nikki" <[email protected]> wrote in

message news:[email protected]...

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Recreate the DW as a subweb in the main domain and Do not move or edit any files or folders it creates (after you have selected them
in the DW wizard) - select the auto-detect frames option
- FP creates write permissions for the folder (usually disc1) containing the tocproto.htm

Open the online DW in FP and run a tools recalculate hyperlinks




| I've tried it on a web without a redirection page and I
| get the same results. Our web master tried to build the
| dicussion web in its own subweb and that didn't work
| either.
| Any other suggestions?
| Is there anything that might make you think that we
| should go so far as to reinstall the Server Extensions?
| That option has been presented to us, but we haven't
| tried it just yet.
| Thanks!
|
| Nikki
| >-----Original Message-----
| >PS
| >
| >A DW is always best created as a subweb of its own (if
| your host supports subwebs)
| >Open you online web in FP
| >(File Open Web/Site and enter http://www.its.astate.edu/)
| >Delete all the DW related pages you now have
| >Then create a folder (say forum) and right click it to
| convert to web
| >Double click the forum subweb folder to open it and use
| File New Web (in current web) and select the DW template
| (do not rename or
| >move any of the files / folders FP creates)
| >
| >--
| >
| >_____________________________________________
| >SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
| FrontPage ]
| >"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-
| ;
| >To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >_____________________________________________
| >
| >
| message | >| Suspect the problem you are having is w/ the
| redirection to
| >| http://its.astate.edu/ittraining/ from
| http://ittraining.astate.edu/
| >|
| >| --
| >|
| >| _____________________________________________
| >| SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
| FrontPage ]
| >| "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"
| (-;
| >| To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| >| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >| _____________________________________________
| >|
| >|
| message | >| | Here's the web site address:
| >| |
| >| | http://ittraining.astate.edu/disc6_post.htm
| >| |
| >| | It'll take you to the Post Message page. The pages
| are on
| >| | a test site right now, so just the pages to the
| >| | discussion web are working right now.
| >| |
| >| | The TOC I referred to is the Table Of Contents page
| that
| >| | is supposed to show all the posts to that discussion
| web.
| >| |
| >| | Thank you so much for any help you can give me. I'll
| take
| >| | any suggestions that you can offer. I appreciate it.
| >| |
| >| | Nikki
| >| |
| >| | >-----Original Message-----
| >| | >I'm currently using FrontPage 2003.
| >| | >I've made a discussion web using the Discussion Web
| >| | Wizard and put it on my web site. Whenever someone
| goes
| >| | to the page to post a message, the Table Of Contents
| page
| >| | that is supposed to show all the messages doesn't
| show
| >| | any newly posted messages, even after the page is
| >| | refreshed. The only time new messages show up is
| when I
| >| | open FrontPage and save the TOC page. Then the posts
| will
| >| | show up. The other weird thing is that when I view
| the
| >| | TOC in design view in FrontPage, it will show all the
| >| | posts, even new ones. But, when I preview the page
| in the
| >| | browser all the posts that were added after I last
| saved
| >| | the page disappear.
| >| | >I've put the pages on another web server here and it
| >| | works fine, showing the posts immediately after the
| TOC
| >| | page is refreshed.
| >| | >Also, the search box isn't showing up. I'm not sure
| if
| >| | it's related to what is going on with the discussion
| web
| >| | though.
| >| | >Any ideas on what the problem is and how to fix it?
| >| | >.
| >| | >
| >|
| >|
| >
| >
| >.
| >

 

[Nikki]

We tried your suggestion and it still didn't work out for
us. Although, I'm not sure what Auto-Detect Frames option
you're talking about. Where is that located?
After we tried your suggestion (we recreated the subweb
in the main domain, didn't edit/delete any files and
recalculated the hyperlinks), we opened the DW online and
did a post, we got an error and we needed to look at the
server's log. The server's log stated that it couldn't
find the 00000001.htm file. When we looked in FrontPage,
there was no 00000001.htm file anywhere. When we dug even
further, we found that online after we posted our
comment, the URL
included "_vti_bin/shtml.dll/disc6_post.htm". There is no
_vti_bin folder or shtml.dll file. Where did those come
from since we did not direct the page that way? It's like
it made it up all by itself.
Any other ideas?
Here's the web site that we're currently using. One of my
co-workers set this up. She changed some options in the
DW wizard and now it's back to doing what it did before,
it won't post any new messages unless we open the table
of contents page in FrontPage and save it.
http://computing.astate.edu/mess2
I really appreciate all the help you've been giving me.
We're at our wits end with this problem, so it's nice to
get someone's elses opinion about it.
Thanks so much!

Nikki

-----Original Message-----
Recreate the DW as a subweb in the main domain and Do

not move or edit any files or folders it creates (after
you have selected them

in the DW wizard) - select the auto-detect frames option
- FP creates write permissions for the folder (usually

disc1) containing the tocproto.htm

Open the online DW in FP and run a tools recalculate hyperlinks




"Nikki" <[email protected]> wrote in

message news:[email protected]...

| I've tried it on a web without a redirection page and I
| get the same results. Our web master tried to build the
| dicussion web in its own subweb and that didn't work
| either.
| Any other suggestions?
| Is there anything that might make you think that we
| should go so far as to reinstall the Server Extensions?
| That option has been presented to us, but we haven't
| tried it just yet.
| Thanks!
|
| Nikki
| >-----Original Message-----
| >PS
| >
| >A DW is always best created as a subweb of its own (if
| your host supports subwebs)
| >Open you online web in FP
| >(File Open Web/Site and enter http://www.its.astate.edu/)
| >Delete all the DW related pages you now have
| >Then create a folder (say forum) and right click it to
| convert to web
| >Double click the forum subweb folder to open it and use
| File New Web (in current web) and select the DW template
| (do not rename or
| >move any of the files / folders FP creates)
| >
| >--
| >
| >_____________________________________________
| >SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
| FrontPage ]
| >"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-
| ;
| >To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >_____________________________________________
| >
| >
| message | >| Suspect the problem you are having is w/ the
| redirection to
| >| http://its.astate.edu/ittraining/ from
| http://ittraining.astate.edu/
| >|
| >| --
| >|
| >| _____________________________________________
| >| SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
| FrontPage ]
| >| "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"
| (-;
| >| To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| >| http://www.net- sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >| _____________________________________________
| >|
| >|
| message | >| | Here's the web site address:
| >| |
| >| | http://ittraining.astate.edu/disc6_post.htm
| >| |
| >| | It'll take you to the Post Message page. The pages
| are on
| >| | a test site right now, so just the pages to the
| >| | discussion web are working right now.
| >| |
| >| | The TOC I referred to is the Table Of Contents page
| that
| >| | is supposed to show all the posts to that discussion
| web.
| >| |
| >| | Thank you so much for any help you can give me. I'll
| take
| >| | any suggestions that you can offer. I appreciate it.
| >| |
| >| | Nikki
| >| |
| >| | >-----Original Message-----
| >| | >I'm currently using FrontPage 2003.
| >| | >I've made a discussion web using the Discussion Web
| >| | Wizard and put it on my web site. Whenever someone
| goes
| >| | to the page to post a message, the Table Of Contents
| page
| >| | that is supposed to show all the messages doesn't
| show
| >| | any newly posted messages, even after the page is
| >| | refreshed. The only time new messages show up is
| when I
| >| | open FrontPage and save the TOC page. Then the posts
| will
| >| | show up. The other weird thing is that when I view
| the
| >| | TOC in design view in FrontPage, it will show all the
| >| | posts, even new ones. But, when I preview the page
| in the
| >| | browser all the posts that were added after I last
| saved
| >| | the page disappear.
| >| | >I've put the pages on another web server here and it
| >| | works fine, showing the posts immediately after the
| TOC
| >| | page is refreshed.
| >| | >Also, the search box isn't showing up. I'm not sure
| if
| >| | it's related to what is going on with the discussion
| web
| >| | though.
| >| | >Any ideas on what the problem is and how to fix it?
| >| | >.
| >| | >
| >|
| >|
| >
| >
| >.
| >


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