Do I need Frontpage Extensions?

S

speedysfast

I have used frontpage for years. The company I am working for (I asked if
they have FP extensions on their servers and they do not...do I need the
extensions for FP2003 to show my pages correctly online? or is it something I
can still work with and get a fabulous site?
Thank you.
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

You only need extensions if you are using FP components that require the
extensions. What components are you wanting to use?
 
S

speedysfast

Hi, what do you mean by FrontPage components?
thank you!

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
You only need extensions if you are using FP components that require the
extensions. What components are you wanting to use?
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
----
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
speedysfast said:
I have used frontpage for years. The company I am working for (I asked if
they have FP extensions on their servers and they do not...do I need the
extensions for FP2003 to show my pages correctly online? or is it
something I
can still work with and get a fabulous site?
Thank you.
 
S

speedysfast

Hi, Ok, i got what components are. Hit counters, etc...

speedysfast said:
Hi, what do you mean by FrontPage components?
thank you!

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
You only need extensions if you are using FP components that require the
extensions. What components are you wanting to use?
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
----
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
speedysfast said:
I have used frontpage for years. The company I am working for (I asked if
they have FP extensions on their servers and they do not...do I need the
extensions for FP2003 to show my pages correctly online? or is it
something I
can still work with and get a fabulous site?
Thank you.
 
A

Andrew Murray

Yes, the hit counter is a perfect example, so Tom's asking will you be using
the components such as

Hit counter
Navigation (menus/links)
Forms to send email
Forms to send data to a (Access) database
Discusion board
Guestbook
Site Search
Include Pages
Shared Borders
etc
If you use any of the above components (there are probably more) then you
will need the FPSE.

There are some components that work without the extensions, but
functionality is reduced such as:

Include Pages
Shared Borders

Third party products, equivalent of the above functions would be available
through many websites: one I frequently use is http://www.hotscripts.com for
the scripts I need for my sites.

I also use http://www.ezscripting.com - so if you need a really simple
database (flat text file) solution where the DB doesn't contain sensitive
data (because the DB is just an unencrypted ascii text file) - they produce
a suite of scripts to read, write, search and edit a database; they also
have a news-script, a discussion forum type script and a form-to-email
script - all these use the flattext db idea. The form to email script
emails the message to you and also sends it to a file log - very useful set
of scripts. You can get a free edition or the advanced edition (with extra
features) for a very (relatively) low cost.

They are perl/cgi scripts, so your host needs to support perl.

Hope this helps.

speedysfast said:
Hi, Ok, i got what components are. Hit counters, etc...

speedysfast said:
Hi, what do you mean by FrontPage components?
thank you!

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
You only need extensions if you are using FP components that require
the
extensions. What components are you wanting to use?
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
----
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
I have used frontpage for years. The company I am working for (I asked
if
they have FP extensions on their servers and they do not...do I need
the
extensions for FP2003 to show my pages correctly online? or is it
something I
can still work with and get a fabulous site?
Thank you.
 
P

paul

Hi Murry,
I currently am using FP 2003 while my server only runs extensions for FP2000
but apparently they work with FP2002.

I am have setup a form to accept input from (a newsletter subscription
requiring users name and email address), using formmail.pl, but keep getting
a internet explorer 404 and 500 error saying" "file can't be found".

N.B. Formmail is a script to accept input from a feedback form which is then
sent in an email to my webmail.

1. Would anyone have any clues how I can get around this problem?
2. Do I need FP extension when using formmail.pl?

regars,
Paul


Andrew Murray said:
Yes, the hit counter is a perfect example, so Tom's asking will you be using
the components such as

Hit counter
Navigation (menus/links)
Forms to send email
Forms to send data to a (Access) database
Discusion board
Guestbook
Site Search
Include Pages
Shared Borders
etc
If you use any of the above components (there are probably more) then you
will need the FPSE.

There are some components that work without the extensions, but
functionality is reduced such as:

Include Pages
Shared Borders

Third party products, equivalent of the above functions would be available
through many websites: one I frequently use is http://www.hotscripts.com for
the scripts I need for my sites.

I also use http://www.ezscripting.com - so if you need a really simple
database (flat text file) solution where the DB doesn't contain sensitive
data (because the DB is just an unencrypted ascii text file) - they produce
a suite of scripts to read, write, search and edit a database; they also
have a news-script, a discussion forum type script and a form-to-email
script - all these use the flattext db idea. The form to email script
emails the message to you and also sends it to a file log - very useful set
of scripts. You can get a free edition or the advanced edition (with extra
features) for a very (relatively) low cost.

They are perl/cgi scripts, so your host needs to support perl.

Hope this helps.

speedysfast said:
Hi, Ok, i got what components are. Hit counters, etc...

speedysfast said:
Hi, what do you mean by FrontPage components?
thank you!

:

You only need extensions if you are using FP components that require
the
extensions. What components are you wanting to use?
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
----
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
I have used frontpage for years. The company I am working for (I asked
if
they have FP extensions on their servers and they do not...do I need
the
extensions for FP2003 to show my pages correctly online? or is it
something I
can still work with and get a fabulous site?
Thank you.
 
R

Ronx

Extensions are not needed for formmail.pl

Is formmail.pl where your form expects it to be - the form's action
attribute should show the relative path from the form to the
formmail.pl.

Is the script named exactly as it is in the action attribute?
Formmail.pl, formMail.pl, formmail.pl are 3 different files on a Unix
server.

A link to the form page may help find the problem.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




Hi Murry,
I currently am using FP 2003 while my server only runs extensions for FP2000
but apparently they work with FP2002.

I am have setup a form to accept input from (a newsletter subscription
requiring users name and email address), using formmail.pl, but keep getting
a internet explorer 404 and 500 error saying" "file can't be found".

N.B. Formmail is a script to accept input from a feedback form which is then
sent in an email to my webmail.

1. Would anyone have any clues how I can get around this problem?
2. Do I need FP extension when using formmail.pl?

regars,
Paul


Andrew Murray said:
Yes, the hit counter is a perfect example, so Tom's asking will you be using
the components such as

Hit counter
Navigation (menus/links)
Forms to send email
Forms to send data to a (Access) database
Discusion board
Guestbook
Site Search
Include Pages
Shared Borders
etc
If you use any of the above components (there are probably more) then you
will need the FPSE.

There are some components that work without the extensions, but
functionality is reduced such as:

Include Pages
Shared Borders

Third party products, equivalent of the above functions would be available
through many websites: one I frequently use is http://www.hotscripts.com for
the scripts I need for my sites.

I also use http://www.ezscripting.com - so if you need a really simple
database (flat text file) solution where the DB doesn't contain sensitive
data (because the DB is just an unencrypted ascii text file) - they produce
a suite of scripts to read, write, search and edit a database; they also
have a news-script, a discussion forum type script and a form-to-email
script - all these use the flattext db idea. The form to email script
emails the message to you and also sends it to a file log - very useful set
of scripts. You can get a free edition or the advanced edition (with extra
features) for a very (relatively) low cost.

They are perl/cgi scripts, so your host needs to support perl.

Hope this helps.

speedysfast said:
Hi, Ok, i got what components are. Hit counters, etc...

:

Hi, what do you mean by FrontPage components?
thank you!

:

You only need extensions if you are using FP components that require
the
extensions. What components are you wanting to use?
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
----
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
I have used frontpage for years. The company I am working for (I asked
if
they have FP extensions on their servers and they do not...do I need
the
extensions for FP2003 to show my pages correctly online? or is it
something I
can still work with and get a fabulous site?
Thank you.
 
P

paul

Hi Ron,
Thank you kindly for your reply! I am pleased to know formmail does not
require FP Ext's. That's one problem out the way.
Although, I might mention that I have read that if you use one of the form
handlers instead of custom script you need FP ext's. (NOT SURE IF THAT
APPLIES HERE).

I have chosen the following properties in the "Form Properties" box, "Send
To Other" and "Custom ISAPI,NSAPI,CGI,ASP script".
You can see the values I have used in the "Advanced" and "Options" box by
looking at the code below.

The code snippet shows you the .html code I have put together so far:
<form method="POST" action="formmail.pl">
<p align="center"><b><font size="2">Name: </font></b>
<input type="text" name="name" size="30"><br>
<b><font size="2">Email: </font></b>
<input type="text" name="email" size="30"><br>
<input type="submit" value="Submit Query" style="color: #000000;
font-weight: bold;
border: 2px solid #000000; padding-left: 4px; padding-right: 4px;
padding-top: 1px;
padding-bottom: 1px"></p>
<input type="hidden" name="env_report" value="REMOTE_HOST,HTTP_USER_AGENT">
<input type="hidden" name="recipient" value="(e-mail address removed)">
<input type="hidden"
name="redirect"value="www.mydomain.com/nlconfirmation.htm">
<input type="hidden" name="required" value="name,email">
</form>

* As you can see I have the "Action" as "formmail.pl", and the "formmail.pl"
file at the server has small caps as well. The formmail.pl file is loaded in
my servers public_html folder. I have also tried the following settings for
"Action", formmail.cgi, with the coresponding file in the public_html folder
at server.

I have also tried formail.pl, and formmail.cgi with the coresponding
formmail files in the "public_html/cgi-bin" on my server.

My server has told me that I need, /usr/bin/perl as the pearl interpreter
location, and, $mailprog = '/usr/sbin/sendmail -i -t'; as the sendmail
location.
I also have,
@referers = ('www.mydomain.com','***.*.**.***'); and,
@recipients = &fill_recipients(@referers (e-mail address removed));

Nothing I've tried seems to work!!
Q1. Can you see any problems with the above?
Q2. Is there certain settings in "FP", "Tools", "Page Options", or anywhere
else in FP that I need to setup before a form will work.

I value your kind assistance.
best regards,
Paul

Ronx said:
Extensions are not needed for formmail.pl
Is formmail.pl where your form expects it to be - the form's action
attribute should show the relative path from the form to the
formmail.pl.

Is the script named exactly as it is in the action attribute?
Formmail.pl, formMail.pl, formmail.pl are 3 different files on a Unix
server.

A link to the form page may help find the problem.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




Hi Murry,
I currently am using FP 2003 while my server only runs extensions for FP2000
but apparently they work with FP2002.

I am have setup a form to accept input from (a newsletter subscription
requiring users name and email address), using formmail.pl, but keep getting
a internet explorer 404 and 500 error saying" "file can't be found".

N.B. Formmail is a script to accept input from a feedback form which is then
sent in an email to my webmail.

1. Would anyone have any clues how I can get around this problem?
2. Do I need FP extension when using formmail.pl?

regars,
Paul


Andrew Murray said:
Yes, the hit counter is a perfect example, so Tom's asking will you be using
the components such as

Hit counter
Navigation (menus/links)
Forms to send email
Forms to send data to a (Access) database
Discusion board
Guestbook
Site Search
Include Pages
Shared Borders
etc
If you use any of the above components (there are probably more) then you
will need the FPSE.

There are some components that work without the extensions, but
functionality is reduced such as:

Include Pages
Shared Borders

Third party products, equivalent of the above functions would be available
through many websites: one I frequently use is http://www.hotscripts.com for
the scripts I need for my sites.

I also use http://www.ezscripting.com - so if you need a really simple
database (flat text file) solution where the DB doesn't contain sensitive
data (because the DB is just an unencrypted ascii text file) - they produce
a suite of scripts to read, write, search and edit a database; they also
have a news-script, a discussion forum type script and a form-to-email
script - all these use the flattext db idea. The form to email script
emails the message to you and also sends it to a file log - very useful set
of scripts. You can get a free edition or the advanced edition (with extra
features) for a very (relatively) low cost.

They are perl/cgi scripts, so your host needs to support perl.

Hope this helps.

Hi, Ok, i got what components are. Hit counters, etc...

:

Hi, what do you mean by FrontPage components?
thank you!

:

You only need extensions if you are using FP components that require
the
extensions. What components are you wanting to use?
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
----
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
I have used frontpage for years. The company I am working for (I asked
if
they have FP extensions on their servers and they do not...do I need
the
extensions for FP2003 to show my pages correctly online? or is it
something I
can still work with and get a fabulous site?
Thank you.
 
R

Ronx

Does the form handler (formmail.pl) have to be in your cgi-bin? Some
hosts insist on this, and set permissions accordingly.
Have you set permissions on formmail.pl to 775 using the CHMOD command
from your FTP client or Control Panel?
Change
@referers = ('www.mydomain.com','***.*.**.***');
to
@referers = ('mydomain.com','***.*.**.***');
and make sure the IP address is the IP for your web site - not for the
mail server.

Provided the form handler (formmail.pl) is configured correctly, in the
right place with the correct permissions, and the form action attribute
points to the form handler, there is nothing else to set up.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




Hi Ron,
Thank you kindly for your reply! I am pleased to know formmail does not
require FP Ext's. That's one problem out the way.
Although, I might mention that I have read that if you use one of the form
handlers instead of custom script you need FP ext's. (NOT SURE IF THAT
APPLIES HERE).

I have chosen the following properties in the "Form Properties" box, "Send
To Other" and "Custom ISAPI,NSAPI,CGI,ASP script".
You can see the values I have used in the "Advanced" and "Options" box by
looking at the code below.

The code snippet shows you the .html code I have put together so far:
<form method="POST" action="formmail.pl">
<p align="center"><b><font size="2">Name: </font></b>
<input type="text" name="name" size="30"><br>
<b><font size="2">Email: </font></b>
<input type="text" name="email" size="30"><br>
<input type="submit" value="Submit Query" style="color: #000000;
font-weight: bold;
border: 2px solid #000000; padding-left: 4px; padding-right: 4px;
padding-top: 1px;
padding-bottom: 1px"></p>
<input type="hidden" name="env_report" value="REMOTE_HOST,HTTP_USER_AGENT">
<input type="hidden" name="recipient" value="(e-mail address removed)">
<input type="hidden"
name="redirect"value="www.mydomain.com/nlconfirmation.htm">
<input type="hidden" name="required" value="name,email">
</form>

* As you can see I have the "Action" as "formmail.pl", and the "formmail.pl"
file at the server has small caps as well. The formmail.pl file is loaded in
my servers public_html folder. I have also tried the following settings for
"Action", formmail.cgi, with the coresponding file in the public_html folder
at server.

I have also tried formail.pl, and formmail.cgi with the coresponding
formmail files in the "public_html/cgi-bin" on my server.

My server has told me that I need, /usr/bin/perl as the pearl interpreter
location, and, $mailprog = '/usr/sbin/sendmail -i -t'; as the sendmail
location.
I also have,
@referers = ('www.mydomain.com','***.*.**.***'); and,
@recipients = &fill_recipients(@referers (e-mail address removed));

Nothing I've tried seems to work!!
Q1. Can you see any problems with the above?
Q2. Is there certain settings in "FP", "Tools", "Page Options", or anywhere
else in FP that I need to setup before a form will work.

I value your kind assistance.
best regards,
Paul

Ronx said:
Extensions are not needed for formmail.pl
Is formmail.pl where your form expects it to be - the form's action
attribute should show the relative path from the form to the
formmail.pl.

Is the script named exactly as it is in the action attribute?
Formmail.pl, formMail.pl, formmail.pl are 3 different files on a Unix
server.

A link to the form page may help find the problem.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




Hi Murry,
I currently am using FP 2003 while my server only runs extensions for FP2000
but apparently they work with FP2002.

I am have setup a form to accept input from (a newsletter subscription
requiring users name and email address), using formmail.pl, but keep getting
a internet explorer 404 and 500 error saying" "file can't be found".

N.B. Formmail is a script to accept input from a feedback form which is then
sent in an email to my webmail.

1. Would anyone have any clues how I can get around this problem?
2. Do I need FP extension when using formmail.pl?

regars,
Paul


:

Yes, the hit counter is a perfect example, so Tom's asking will you be using
the components such as

Hit counter
Navigation (menus/links)
Forms to send email
Forms to send data to a (Access) database
Discusion board
Guestbook
Site Search
Include Pages
Shared Borders
etc
If you use any of the above components (there are probably more) then you
will need the FPSE.

There are some components that work without the extensions, but
functionality is reduced such as:

Include Pages
Shared Borders

Third party products, equivalent of the above functions would be available
through many websites: one I frequently use is http://www.hotscripts.com for
the scripts I need for my sites.

I also use http://www.ezscripting.com - so if you need a really simple
database (flat text file) solution where the DB doesn't contain sensitive
data (because the DB is just an unencrypted ascii text file) - they produce
a suite of scripts to read, write, search and edit a database; they also
have a news-script, a discussion forum type script and a form-to-email
script - all these use the flattext db idea. The form to email script
emails the message to you and also sends it to a file log - very useful set
of scripts. You can get a free edition or the advanced edition (with extra
features) for a very (relatively) low cost.

They are perl/cgi scripts, so your host needs to support perl.

Hope this helps.

Hi, Ok, i got what components are. Hit counters, etc...

:

Hi, what do you mean by FrontPage components?
thank you!

:

You only need extensions if you are using FP components that require
the
extensions. What components are you wanting to use?
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
----
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
I have used frontpage for years. The company I am working for (I asked
if
they have FP extensions on their servers and they do not...do I need
the
extensions for FP2003 to show my pages correctly online? or is it
something I
can still work with and get a fabulous site?
Thank you.
 
A

Andrew Murray

Sorry the name is *Andrew*.

paul said:
Hi Murry,
I currently am using FP 2003 while my server only runs extensions for
FP2000
but apparently they work with FP2002.

I am have setup a form to accept input from (a newsletter subscription
requiring users name and email address), using formmail.pl, but keep
getting
a internet explorer 404 and 500 error saying" "file can't be found".

N.B. Formmail is a script to accept input from a feedback form which is
then
sent in an email to my webmail.

1. Would anyone have any clues how I can get around this problem?
2. Do I need FP extension when using formmail.pl?

regars,
Paul


Andrew Murray said:
Yes, the hit counter is a perfect example, so Tom's asking will you be
using
the components such as

Hit counter
Navigation (menus/links)
Forms to send email
Forms to send data to a (Access) database
Discusion board
Guestbook
Site Search
Include Pages
Shared Borders
etc
If you use any of the above components (there are probably more) then you
will need the FPSE.

There are some components that work without the extensions, but
functionality is reduced such as:

Include Pages
Shared Borders

Third party products, equivalent of the above functions would be
available
through many websites: one I frequently use is http://www.hotscripts.com
for
the scripts I need for my sites.

I also use http://www.ezscripting.com - so if you need a really simple
database (flat text file) solution where the DB doesn't contain sensitive
data (because the DB is just an unencrypted ascii text file) - they
produce
a suite of scripts to read, write, search and edit a database; they also
have a news-script, a discussion forum type script and a form-to-email
script - all these use the flattext db idea. The form to email script
emails the message to you and also sends it to a file log - very useful
set
of scripts. You can get a free edition or the advanced edition (with
extra
features) for a very (relatively) low cost.

They are perl/cgi scripts, so your host needs to support perl.

Hope this helps.

speedysfast said:
Hi, Ok, i got what components are. Hit counters, etc...

:

Hi, what do you mean by FrontPage components?
thank you!

:

You only need extensions if you are using FP components that require
the
extensions. What components are you wanting to use?
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
----
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
message
I have used frontpage for years. The company I am working for (I
asked
if
they have FP extensions on their servers and they do not...do I
need
the
extensions for FP2003 to show my pages correctly online? or is it
something I
can still work with and get a fabulous site?
Thank you.
 
A

Andrew Murray

I thought it was usually CHMOD 755 or 777.

Ronx said:
Does the form handler (formmail.pl) have to be in your cgi-bin? Some
hosts insist on this, and set permissions accordingly.
Have you set permissions on formmail.pl to 775 using the CHMOD command
from your FTP client or Control Panel?
Change
@referers = ('www.mydomain.com','***.*.**.***');
to
@referers = ('mydomain.com','***.*.**.***');
and make sure the IP address is the IP for your web site - not for the
mail server.

Provided the form handler (formmail.pl) is configured correctly, in the
right place with the correct permissions, and the form action attribute
points to the form handler, there is nothing else to set up.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




Hi Ron,
Thank you kindly for your reply! I am pleased to know formmail does not
require FP Ext's. That's one problem out the way.
Although, I might mention that I have read that if you use one of the
form
handlers instead of custom script you need FP ext's. (NOT SURE IF THAT
APPLIES HERE).

I have chosen the following properties in the "Form Properties" box,
"Send
To Other" and "Custom ISAPI,NSAPI,CGI,ASP script".
You can see the values I have used in the "Advanced" and "Options" box by
looking at the code below.

The code snippet shows you the .html code I have put together so far:
<form method="POST" action="formmail.pl">
<p align="center"><b><font size="2">Name: </font></b>
<input type="text" name="name" size="30"><br>
<b><font size="2">Email: </font></b>
<input type="text" name="email" size="30"><br>
<input type="submit" value="Submit Query" style="color: #000000;
font-weight: bold;
border: 2px solid #000000; padding-left: 4px; padding-right: 4px;
padding-top: 1px;
padding-bottom: 1px"></p>
<input type="hidden" name="env_report"
value="REMOTE_HOST,HTTP_USER_AGENT">
<input type="hidden" name="recipient" value="(e-mail address removed)">
<input type="hidden"
name="redirect"value="www.mydomain.com/nlconfirmation.htm">
<input type="hidden" name="required" value="name,email">
</form>

* As you can see I have the "Action" as "formmail.pl", and the
"formmail.pl"
file at the server has small caps as well. The formmail.pl file is loaded
in
my servers public_html folder. I have also tried the following settings
for
"Action", formmail.cgi, with the coresponding file in the public_html
folder
at server.

I have also tried formail.pl, and formmail.cgi with the coresponding
formmail files in the "public_html/cgi-bin" on my server.

My server has told me that I need, /usr/bin/perl as the pearl interpreter
location, and, $mailprog = '/usr/sbin/sendmail -i -t'; as the sendmail
location.
I also have,
@referers = ('www.mydomain.com','***.*.**.***'); and,
@recipients = &fill_recipients(@referers (e-mail address removed));

Nothing I've tried seems to work!!
Q1. Can you see any problems with the above?
Q2. Is there certain settings in "FP", "Tools", "Page Options", or
anywhere
else in FP that I need to setup before a form will work.

I value your kind assistance.
best regards,
Paul

Ronx said:
Extensions are not needed for formmail.pl
Is formmail.pl where your form expects it to be - the form's action
attribute should show the relative path from the form to the
formmail.pl.

Is the script named exactly as it is in the action attribute?
Formmail.pl, formMail.pl, formmail.pl are 3 different files on a Unix
server.

A link to the form page may help find the problem.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp





Hi Murry,
I currently am using FP 2003 while my server only runs extensions for
FP2000
but apparently they work with FP2002.

I am have setup a form to accept input from (a newsletter
subscription
requiring users name and email address), using formmail.pl, but keep
getting
a internet explorer 404 and 500 error saying" "file can't be found".

N.B. Formmail is a script to accept input from a feedback form which
is then
sent in an email to my webmail.

1. Would anyone have any clues how I can get around this problem?
2. Do I need FP extension when using formmail.pl?

regars,
Paul


:

Yes, the hit counter is a perfect example, so Tom's asking will you
be using
the components such as

Hit counter
Navigation (menus/links)
Forms to send email
Forms to send data to a (Access) database
Discusion board
Guestbook
Site Search
Include Pages
Shared Borders
etc
If you use any of the above components (there are probably more)
then you
will need the FPSE.

There are some components that work without the extensions, but
functionality is reduced such as:

Include Pages
Shared Borders

Third party products, equivalent of the above functions would be
available
through many websites: one I frequently use is
http://www.hotscripts.com for
the scripts I need for my sites.

I also use http://www.ezscripting.com - so if you need a really
simple
database (flat text file) solution where the DB doesn't contain
sensitive
data (because the DB is just an unencrypted ascii text file) - they
produce
a suite of scripts to read, write, search and edit a database; they
also
have a news-script, a discussion forum type script and a
form-to-email
script - all these use the flattext db idea. The form to email
script
emails the message to you and also sends it to a file log - very
useful set
of scripts. You can get a free edition or the advanced edition
(with extra
features) for a very (relatively) low cost.

They are perl/cgi scripts, so your host needs to support perl.

Hope this helps.

message
Hi, Ok, i got what components are. Hit counters, etc...

:

Hi, what do you mean by FrontPage components?
thank you!

:

You only need extensions if you are using FP components that
require
the
extensions. What components are you wanting to use?
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
----
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
message
I have used frontpage for years. The company I am working for
(I asked
if
they have FP extensions on their servers and they do
not...do I need
the
extensions for FP2003 to show my pages correctly online? or
is it
something I
can still work with and get a fabulous site?
Thank you.
 
A

Andrew Murray

Logon to the FTP server with for example CuteFTP (obtain the FTP details
from your host) and upload the file to your cgi-bin folder. Unless your host
allows you to run perl scripts in other folders *.pl or *.cgi files must be
in the cgi-bin.

Then set the file(s) to CHMOD 755, or as specified in the instructions


paul said:
Hi Murry,
I currently am using FP 2003 while my server only runs extensions for
FP2000
but apparently they work with FP2002.

I am have setup a form to accept input from (a newsletter subscription
requiring users name and email address), using formmail.pl, but keep
getting
a internet explorer 404 and 500 error saying" "file can't be found".

N.B. Formmail is a script to accept input from a feedback form which is
then
sent in an email to my webmail.

1. Would anyone have any clues how I can get around this problem?
2. Do I need FP extension when using formmail.pl?

regars,
Paul


Andrew Murray said:
Yes, the hit counter is a perfect example, so Tom's asking will you be
using
the components such as

Hit counter
Navigation (menus/links)
Forms to send email
Forms to send data to a (Access) database
Discusion board
Guestbook
Site Search
Include Pages
Shared Borders
etc
If you use any of the above components (there are probably more) then you
will need the FPSE.

There are some components that work without the extensions, but
functionality is reduced such as:

Include Pages
Shared Borders

Third party products, equivalent of the above functions would be
available
through many websites: one I frequently use is http://www.hotscripts.com
for
the scripts I need for my sites.

I also use http://www.ezscripting.com - so if you need a really simple
database (flat text file) solution where the DB doesn't contain sensitive
data (because the DB is just an unencrypted ascii text file) - they
produce
a suite of scripts to read, write, search and edit a database; they also
have a news-script, a discussion forum type script and a form-to-email
script - all these use the flattext db idea. The form to email script
emails the message to you and also sends it to a file log - very useful
set
of scripts. You can get a free edition or the advanced edition (with
extra
features) for a very (relatively) low cost.

They are perl/cgi scripts, so your host needs to support perl.

Hope this helps.

speedysfast said:
Hi, Ok, i got what components are. Hit counters, etc...

:

Hi, what do you mean by FrontPage components?
thank you!

:

You only need extensions if you are using FP components that require
the
extensions. What components are you wanting to use?
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
----
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
message
I have used frontpage for years. The company I am working for (I
asked
if
they have FP extensions on their servers and they do not...do I
need
the
extensions for FP2003 to show my pages correctly online? or is it
something I
can still work with and get a fabulous site?
Thank you.
 
R

Ronx

Yes, 755.
777 gives user, group and others read, write and execute access which is
wrong.
755 restricts writing to the user.
775 would give read, write and execute access to the user and group, and
read and execute to others.

In this context the user is the web site author, the group is the
server.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




I thought it was usually CHMOD 755 or 777.

Ronx said:
Does the form handler (formmail.pl) have to be in your cgi-bin? Some
hosts insist on this, and set permissions accordingly.
Have you set permissions on formmail.pl to 775 using the CHMOD command
from your FTP client or Control Panel?
Change
@referers = ('www.mydomain.com','***.*.**.***');
to
@referers = ('mydomain.com','***.*.**.***');
and make sure the IP address is the IP for your web site - not for the
mail server.

Provided the form handler (formmail.pl) is configured correctly, in the
right place with the correct permissions, and the form action attribute
points to the form handler, there is nothing else to set up.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




Hi Ron,
Thank you kindly for your reply! I am pleased to know formmail does not
require FP Ext's. That's one problem out the way.
Although, I might mention that I have read that if you use one of the
form
handlers instead of custom script you need FP ext's. (NOT SURE IF THAT
APPLIES HERE).

I have chosen the following properties in the "Form Properties" box,
"Send
To Other" and "Custom ISAPI,NSAPI,CGI,ASP script".
You can see the values I have used in the "Advanced" and "Options" box by
looking at the code below.

The code snippet shows you the .html code I have put together so far:
<form method="POST" action="formmail.pl">
<p align="center"><b><font size="2">Name: </font></b>
<input type="text" name="name" size="30"><br>
<b><font size="2">Email: </font></b>
<input type="text" name="email" size="30"><br>
<input type="submit" value="Submit Query" style="color: #000000;
font-weight: bold;
border: 2px solid #000000; padding-left: 4px; padding-right: 4px;
padding-top: 1px;
padding-bottom: 1px"></p>
<input type="hidden" name="env_report"
value="REMOTE_HOST,HTTP_USER_AGENT">
<input type="hidden" name="recipient" value="(e-mail address removed)">
<input type="hidden"
name="redirect"value="www.mydomain.com/nlconfirmation.htm">
<input type="hidden" name="required" value="name,email">
</form>

* As you can see I have the "Action" as "formmail.pl", and the
"formmail.pl"
file at the server has small caps as well. The formmail.pl file is loaded
in
my servers public_html folder. I have also tried the following settings
for
"Action", formmail.cgi, with the coresponding file in the public_html
folder
at server.

I have also tried formail.pl, and formmail.cgi with the coresponding
formmail files in the "public_html/cgi-bin" on my server.

My server has told me that I need, /usr/bin/perl as the pearl interpreter
location, and, $mailprog = '/usr/sbin/sendmail -i -t'; as the sendmail
location.
I also have,
@referers = ('www.mydomain.com','***.*.**.***'); and,
@recipients = &fill_recipients(@referers (e-mail address removed));

Nothing I've tried seems to work!!
Q1. Can you see any problems with the above?
Q2. Is there certain settings in "FP", "Tools", "Page Options", or
anywhere
else in FP that I need to setup before a form will work.

I value your kind assistance.
best regards,
Paul

:

Extensions are not needed for formmail.pl
Is formmail.pl where your form expects it to be - the form's action
attribute should show the relative path from the form to the
formmail.pl.

Is the script named exactly as it is in the action attribute?
Formmail.pl, formMail.pl, formmail.pl are 3 different files on a Unix
server.

A link to the form page may help find the problem.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp





Hi Murry,
I currently am using FP 2003 while my server only runs extensions for
FP2000
but apparently they work with FP2002.

I am have setup a form to accept input from (a newsletter
subscription
requiring users name and email address), using formmail.pl, but keep
getting
a internet explorer 404 and 500 error saying" "file can't be found".

N.B. Formmail is a script to accept input from a feedback form which
is then
sent in an email to my webmail.

1. Would anyone have any clues how I can get around this problem?
2. Do I need FP extension when using formmail.pl?

regars,
Paul


:

Yes, the hit counter is a perfect example, so Tom's asking will you
be using
the components such as

Hit counter
Navigation (menus/links)
Forms to send email
Forms to send data to a (Access) database
Discusion board
Guestbook
Site Search
Include Pages
Shared Borders
etc
If you use any of the above components (there are probably more)
then you
will need the FPSE.

There are some components that work without the extensions, but
functionality is reduced such as:

Include Pages
Shared Borders

Third party products, equivalent of the above functions would be
available
through many websites: one I frequently use is
http://www.hotscripts.com for
the scripts I need for my sites.

I also use http://www.ezscripting.com - so if you need a really
simple
database (flat text file) solution where the DB doesn't contain
sensitive
data (because the DB is just an unencrypted ascii text file) - they
produce
a suite of scripts to read, write, search and edit a database; they
also
have a news-script, a discussion forum type script and a
form-to-email
script - all these use the flattext db idea. The form to email
script
emails the message to you and also sends it to a file log - very
useful set
of scripts. You can get a free edition or the advanced edition
(with extra
features) for a very (relatively) low cost.

They are perl/cgi scripts, so your host needs to support perl.

Hope this helps.

message
Hi, Ok, i got what components are. Hit counters, etc...

:

Hi, what do you mean by FrontPage components?
thank you!

:

You only need extensions if you are using FP components that
require
the
extensions. What components are you wanting to use?
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
----
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
message
I have used frontpage for years. The company I am working for
(I asked
if
they have FP extensions on their servers and they do
not...do I need
the
extensions for FP2003 to show my pages correctly online? or
is it
something I
can still work with and get a fabulous site?
Thank you.
 

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