Does Front Page keep me off the real front page?

[Mark]

Does Front Page, the way it's code is written, make it harder for google and
other spiders and thus lower my rank compared to shorter cleaner code?

Everyone has a biased opinion and I figure yours will be most objective in
this case. Like everyone, I want top search engine ranking of my website.
I want to be on the front page of search results, right below the paid
sponsors. I want to stop paying through the nose for key words, pay per
click, and SEO companies who buy links from authoritative sites and control
my website. I want to win by creating a useful website that people want to
revisit because it provides what they need and want without the annoyances of
many sites. At least I am going to try my best and see if I can beat my
curent site.

Front Page software seems the easist to learn especially after trying to
learn dreamweaver.

I have been given advice by multiple different people that Microsoft Front
Page is difficult for the spiders because of all the extra code and MS junk
so the spiders don't find or catch all the important stuff on my site for an
optimum rank. This is aside from all the other optimization factors and paid
subscriptions - here is want I want to know -

If you had 2 hypothetical identical web sites: one using Front Page and the
other using Dreamweaver would there be a difference in the eyes of the search
engines?


TKS

 

[Joe Rohn]

Hi Mark,

Inline below:

Does Front Page, the way it's code is written, make it harder for google
and
other spiders and thus lower my rank compared to shorter cleaner code?

In a word..No...but it really depends on how you code the page..there is no
automatic penalty for using FrontPage.

Everyone has a biased opinion and I figure yours will be most objective in
this case. Like everyone, I want top search engine ranking of my website.
I want to be on the front page of search results, right below the paid
sponsors. I want to stop paying through the nose for key words, pay per
click, and SEO companies who buy links from authoritative sites and
control
my website. I want to win by creating a useful website that people want
to
revisit because it provides what they need and want without the annoyances
of
many sites. At least I am going to try my best and see if I can beat my
curent site.

No matter what HTML Editor you use to create sites, there will be
competition for anything that you do. Search Engine Optimization is more of
an art than a science..and it is a huge topic by itself..but it is
independant of the program you use. One of the best plaaces to learn more is
here:

http://www.searchenginewatch.com

You certainly sound energized to be going down this path..one thing to keep
in mind though is it is never finite. You could reach #1 in Google some day
for a certain phrase..and fall way back the next time..there are simply no
100% solutions or guarantees.

I would say to try and do as much of it yourself as you can..and stay away
from sites that say things like "submit your site to !,000's of Search
Engines for only $69.95"

Front Page software seems the easist to learn especially after trying to
learn dreamweaver.

I have been given advice by multiple different people that Microsoft Front
Page is difficult for the spiders because of all the extra code and MS
junk
so the spiders don't find or catch all the important stuff on my site for
an
optimum rank. This is aside from all the other optimization factors and
paid
subscriptions - here is want I want to know -

I'll hazard a guess here and say that many or most of the people that gave
you that advice fall under one of two categories.

1. They have never used FrontPage
2. They simply keep passing on myths without really knowing.

Both FrontPage and Dreamweaver can produce code that is specific to the
program used. Whether that ever happens depends on features that you use.
FrontPage webbots for things like navigation bars..will produce specific
code for that.

If you had 2 hypothetical identical web sites: one using Front Page and
the
other using Dreamweaver would there be a difference in the eyes of the
search
engines?

No not really...but again it comes with more experince in knowing what does
and does not work well.

--
Joe

Microsoft MVP FrontPage

FrontPage Users Forums:
http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage

 

[Kevin Spencer]

If you had 2 hypothetical identical web sites: one using Front Page and

the
other using Dreamweaver would there be a difference in the eyes of the
search
engines?

Hmmm. Well, let me ask you something. If you wrote the Gettysburg address
using Notepad, and also wrote it using WordPad, and saved both copies as
text files, which one would be longer?

(Hint: you didn't write the Gettysburg address. Abraham Lincoln did)

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
If you push something hard enough,
it will fall over.
- Fudd's First Law of Opposition

 

[cucharacha]

am I allowed to reply to a six month old post? Basically, am I allowed to
ask the same question the poster asked first?
Only I would like to know what is meant by "depends on the way you code the
page"

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

you can but it's much more coherent if you just restate the problem in a new
message...not many people like to read backwards.


| am I allowed to reply to a six month old post? Basically, am I allowed to
| ask the same question the poster asked first?
| Only I would like to know what is meant by "depends on the way you code
the
| page"
| --
| Love my electronic filing system....
|
|
| "Joe Rohn" wrote:
|
| > Hi Mark,
| >
| > Inline below:
| >
| > | > > Does Front Page, the way it's code is written, make it harder for
google
| > > and
| > > other spiders and thus lower my rank compared to shorter cleaner code?
| >
| > In a word..No...but it really depends on how you code the page..there is
no
| > automatic penalty for using FrontPage.
| >
| > > Everyone has a biased opinion and I figure yours will be most
objective in
| > > this case. Like everyone, I want top search engine ranking of my
website.
| > > I want to be on the front page of search results, right below the paid
| > > sponsors. I want to stop paying through the nose for key words, pay
per
| > > click, and SEO companies who buy links from authoritative sites and
| > > control
| > > my website. I want to win by creating a useful website that people
want
| > > to
| > > revisit because it provides what they need and want without the
annoyances
| > > of
| > > many sites. At least I am going to try my best and see if I can beat
my
| > > curent site.
| >
| > No matter what HTML Editor you use to create sites, there will be
| > competition for anything that you do. Search Engine Optimization is more
of
| > an art than a science..and it is a huge topic by itself..but it is
| > independant of the program you use. One of the best plaaces to learn
more is
| > here:
| >
| > http://www.searchenginewatch.com
| >
| > You certainly sound energized to be going down this path..one thing to
keep
| > in mind though is it is never finite. You could reach #1 in Google some
day
| > for a certain phrase..and fall way back the next time..there are simply
no
| > 100% solutions or guarantees.
| >
| > I would say to try and do as much of it yourself as you can..and stay
away
| > from sites that say things like "submit your site to !,000's of Search
| > Engines for only $69.95"
| >
| >
| > >
| > > Front Page software seems the easist to learn especially after trying
to
| > > learn dreamweaver.
| > >
| > > I have been given advice by multiple different people that Microsoft
Front
| > > Page is difficult for the spiders because of all the extra code and MS
| > > junk
| > > so the spiders don't find or catch all the important stuff on my site
for
| > > an
| > > optimum rank. This is aside from all the other optimization factors
and
| > > paid
| > > subscriptions - here is want I want to know -
| >
| > I'll hazard a guess here and say that many or most of the people that
gave
| > you that advice fall under one of two categories.
| >
| > 1. They have never used FrontPage
| > 2. They simply keep passing on myths without really knowing.
| >
| > Both FrontPage and Dreamweaver can produce code that is specific to the
| > program used. Whether that ever happens depends on features that you
use.
| > FrontPage webbots for things like navigation bars..will produce specific
| > code for that.
| >
| >
| > > If you had 2 hypothetical identical web sites: one using Front Page
and
| > > the
| > > other using Dreamweaver would there be a difference in the eyes of the
| > > search
| > > engines?
| >
| > No not really...but again it comes with more experince in knowing what
does
| > and does not work well.
| >
| > --
| > Joe
| >
| > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| >
| > FrontPage Users Forums:
| > http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| >
| >
| >