Does IIS actually worrk?

[X_Eyed_Bear]

I've spent about 20 hours over the last 2 days trying to figure how to use
IIS to save a FrontPage web (from the FP2002 Tutorial) on my computer,
running Win XP Pro. All my attempts end up with obscure error messages of
which I understand not a word. I'm beginning to doubt IIS actually works.

For example, if I try to specify the location of my new web as
http://localhost/, then the error message is "You cannot create a root web
at http://localhost. If there is a server at that location, you may create a
subweb by specifying a location such as "http://localhost/myseb"."

I have no way of knowing if there is a server at that location (The Server
option on the Tools menu in FP2002 is greyed out), but if I follow the above
advice, the error message is "Could not find a web server at 'localhost'.
Please check to make sure that the web server name is valid and your proxy
settings are set correctly. If you are sure that everything is correct, the
web server may be temporarily out of service"

I can do nothing useful with this information.

If I try to save the web as a disk-based web only (which is NOT what I want
to do) and save it at c:\inetpub\wwwroot\Championzone (the name suggested in
the FP2002 Tutorial), then the error message is " Unable to create a
disk-based web at "C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\Championzone" because its parent web
would not be a disk-based web. Create the disk-based web elsewhere, outside
of your web server's document hierarchy."

This seems to be telling me that there is a web server at this location,
contrary to the previous error message. Huh?

if I save at c:\My Documents\My webs\Championzone, then it works: I get a
disk-based web, which is NOT what I want, and I haven't been able to use
IIS, which is what I DO want.

Ergo, I conclude IIS does not work.

Somebody please show me where I have gone wrong.

 

[Tom Pepper Willett]

Did you actually install IIS and the FP server extensions on your computer?
It's not done automatically.
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===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===
| I've spent about 20 hours over the last 2 days trying to figure how to use
| IIS to save a FrontPage web (from the FP2002 Tutorial) on my computer,
| running Win XP Pro. All my attempts end up with obscure error messages of
| which I understand not a word. I'm beginning to doubt IIS actually works.
|
| For example, if I try to specify the location of my new web as
| http://localhost/, then the error message is "You cannot create a root web
| at http://localhost. If there is a server at that location, you may create
a
| subweb by specifying a location such as "http://localhost/myseb"."
|
| I have no way of knowing if there is a server at that location (The Server
| option on the Tools menu in FP2002 is greyed out), but if I follow the
above
| advice, the error message is "Could not find a web server at 'localhost'.
| Please check to make sure that the web server name is valid and your proxy
| settings are set correctly. If you are sure that everything is correct,
the
| web server may be temporarily out of service"
|
| I can do nothing useful with this information.
|
| If I try to save the web as a disk-based web only (which is NOT what I
want
| to do) and save it at c:\inetpub\wwwroot\Championzone (the name suggested
in
| the FP2002 Tutorial), then the error message is " Unable to create a
| disk-based web at "C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\Championzone" because its parent
web
| would not be a disk-based web. Create the disk-based web elsewhere,
outside
| of your web server's document hierarchy."
|
| This seems to be telling me that there is a web server at this location,
| contrary to the previous error message. Huh?
|
| if I save at c:\My Documents\My webs\Championzone, then it works: I get a
| disk-based web, which is NOT what I want, and I haven't been able to use
| IIS, which is what I DO want.
|
| Ergo, I conclude IIS does not work.
|
| Somebody please show me where I have gone wrong.
|
|
|
|

 

[Steve Easton]

Yes it does.
You need to go to Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Internet Information
Services.
Then right click on Default Web Site and Select, New > Server Extensions Web.

Follow the instructions, give it a name, close Computer Management.

Open FrontPage and then open http://localhost/thenameyoujustcreated

hth

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Microsoft MVP FrontPage
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........................with a computer

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

In FP, use File Menu | Open Site and enter http://localhost then once you have it open, create
folder, select the folder, right click and select convert to SubSite. Now you have a new web, double
click to open this new web. Now you can start to add your content.

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==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

 

[Bob Lehmann]

Ergo, I conclude IIS does not work.
Several million people would disagree.

Bob Lehmann

news:[email protected]...

 

[X_Eyed_Bear]

I most certainly did - 3 times in the last 10 hours, the last install taking
3 hours alone because the installation logic could not find a large number
of files, including the file auupdate.exe - and neither could microsoft's
KB. I finally found it on, would you beleive it, the Win XP Pro product CD,
where I would have thought that the installation file should have looked in
the first place....

This IIS install is really straighforward, isn't it?

 

[Tom Pepper Willett]

|
| This IIS install is really straighforward, isn't it?

Yes ;-)
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===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===
|
| | > Did you actually install IIS and the FP server extensions on your
| computer?
| > It's not done automatically.
| > --
| > ===
| > Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > ---
| > About FrontPage 2003:
| > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > ===
| > | > | I've spent about 20 hours over the last 2 days trying to figure how to
| use
| > | IIS to save a FrontPage web (from the FP2002 Tutorial) on my computer,
| > | running Win XP Pro. All my attempts end up with obscure error
messages
| of
| > | which I understand not a word. I'm beginning to doubt IIS actually
| works.
| > |
| > | For example, if I try to specify the location of my new web as
| > | http://localhost/, then the error message is "You cannot create a root
| web
| > | at http://localhost. If there is a server at that location, you may
| create
| > a
| > | subweb by specifying a location such as "http://localhost/myseb"."
| > |
| > | I have no way of knowing if there is a server at that location (The
| Server
| > | option on the Tools menu in FP2002 is greyed out), but if I follow the
| > above
| > | advice, the error message is "Could not find a web server at
| 'localhost'.
| > | Please check to make sure that the web server name is valid and your
| proxy
| > | settings are set correctly. If you are sure that everything is
correct,
| > the
| > | web server may be temporarily out of service"
| > |
| > | I can do nothing useful with this information.
| > |
| > | If I try to save the web as a disk-based web only (which is NOT what I
| > want
| > | to do) and save it at c:\inetpub\wwwroot\Championzone (the name
| suggested
| > in
| > | the FP2002 Tutorial), then the error message is " Unable to create a
| > | disk-based web at "C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\Championzone" because its parent
| > web
| > | would not be a disk-based web. Create the disk-based web elsewhere,
| > outside
| > | of your web server's document hierarchy."
| > |
| > | This seems to be telling me that there is a web server at this
location,
| > | contrary to the previous error message. Huh?
| > |
| > | if I save at c:\My Documents\My webs\Championzone, then it works: I
get
| a
| > | disk-based web, which is NOT what I want, and I haven't been able to
use
| > | IIS, which is what I DO want.
| > |
| > | Ergo, I conclude IIS does not work.
| > |
| > | Somebody please show me where I have gone wrong.
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

 

[X_Eyed_Bear]

Many thanks for this advice. I have read everyhting I can find about
installing and using IIS and NONE of it has this procedure described in it.
I suppose it must be intuitively self-evident to a different class of
individual tham myself.

BUT....

.... having successfully followed your advice, I still cannot follow the
instructions given in the FP2002 Tutorial:
I quote:

To create a new Web site


1. On the File menu, click Close to close the current page.



2. On the File menu, point to New, and then click Page or Web.



FrontPage displays the New Page or Web task pane. Here, you can choose from
several Web site templates and wizards, specify where you want to save your
Web site, and specify what you want to call it.



3. Under New from template, click Web Site Templates.



4. Click One Page Web, and then press TAB.



Pressing the TAB key moves the selection to the field where you specify the
name and location of the new Web site.



5. In the Specify the location of the new Web box, change the suggested
name to <drive>:\My Documents\My Webs\Championzone, and then click OK.



Notes



· <drive> represents your local hard disk, which is usually C:\ or
D:\.



· FrontPage creates a new Web site named "Championzone," and
displays its name and location in the title bar at the top of the FrontPage
program window.



End_Quote



This procedure creates a disk-based web - NOT what I want to do. The
Tutorial gives this tip:



Quote:



Tip Home pages have reserved names. FrontPage will automatically name home
pages one of two reserved names that you should not change unless you need
to. If you are running local Web server software such as Internet
Information Services (IIS) on your computer, the home page will be named
Default.htm. If you do not have a local Web server installed, or when you
save a page to your local hard drive instead of a Web site on a Web server,
the home page will be named Index.htm.



These names are reserved for home pages because Web browsers
will automatically look for them when a site visitor types the URL to your
Web site without a specific page reference



End_Quote



So, when I try to create the web at http://localhost/myweb/Championzone I
get the error messages previously described: "Could not find a web server at
'localhost' .....



So, basically, I'm not convinced that the authors of the FP2002 Tutorial
were ever able to create a web site using IIS. They could only create a
disk-based site.



How do I overcome this deficiency in either FP2002 or in IIS?

Yes it does.
You need to go to Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer

Management, Internet Information

 

[X_Eyed_Bear]

Several million people would disagree.

Every one of whom are not using my computer, so their views are valid only
in a different context, not the one that is causing me problems. I can find
no evidence, on my computer, that it works. I can find plenty of evidence
that it does not.

The logical fault is in my use of the functions of IIS - but I can find no
information, written for somebody like myself, that will allow me to
understand where the error is - hence my appeal to experts such as
yourself....

 

[X_Eyed_Bear]

Hmm, sounds like a good idea,,,,,,

... but sadly, in my version of FP2002, there is no 'Open Site' option
available from the File menu. I have 'Open....' and 'Open Web', neither of
which will allow me to specify a location. I can only choose to Look In
certain locations which the software has set.

It seems that my question 'Does IIS actually work?' has the answer 'No'.

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Open Site = Open Web (in FP2002)

After the dialog is open, down at the bottom of the dialog, enter http://localhost

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==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

 

[Andrew Murray]

"Open Web", then.....

Hmm, sounds like a good idea,,,,,,

... but sadly, in my version of FP2002, there is no 'Open Site' option
available from the File menu. I have 'Open....' and 'Open Web', neither of
which will allow me to specify a location. I can only choose to Look In
certain locations which the software has set.

It seems that my question 'Does IIS actually work?' has the answer 'No'.

 

[X_Eyed_Bear]

OK, that works, but sadly, the option to create a folder (File, New....) is
greyed out. I can only create a new Page or Web, a Document Library, a
List,, a Survey, or a Task - not a new Folder.....

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

To create a folder Right click in Folder List Or Folder View

There can only be 1 root web under IIS (http://localhost/ or http://machinename/)
All other webs under localhost need to be subwebs
File New Web and for the location select http://localhost/newwebname/
Or Tools Server Admin and use the admin pages to create the new subweb w/ the FP 2002 SE

You can also convert a folder to a subweb by right clicking it in Folder List Or Folder View and selecting convert to web




| OK, that works, but sadly, the option to create a folder (File, New....) is
| greyed out. I can only create a new Page or Web, a Document Library, a
| List,, a Survey, or a Task - not a new Folder.....
|
|
| | > Open Site = Open Web (in FP2002)
| >
| > After the dialog is open, down at the bottom of the dialog, enter
| http://localhost
| >
| > --
| > ==============================================
| > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > ==============================================
| > If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| > a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| > Microsoft Product Support Services:
| > http://support.microsoft.com
| > If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| > security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| > ==============================================
| >
| > | > > Hmm, sounds like a good idea,,,,,,
| > >
| > > ... but sadly, in my version of FP2002, there is no 'Open Site' option
| > > available from the File menu. I have 'Open....' and 'Open Web', neither
| of
| > > which will allow me to specify a location. I can only choose to Look In
| > > certain locations which the software has set.
| > >
| > > It seems that my question 'Does IIS actually work?' has the answer 'No'.
| > >
| > > | > >> In FP, use File Menu | Open Site and enter http://localhost then once
| you
| > > have it open, create
| > >> folder, select the folder, right click and select convert to SubSite.
| Now
| > > you have a new web, double
| > >> click to open this new web. Now you can start to add your content.
| > >>
| > >> --
| > >> ==============================================
| > >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > >> ==============================================
| > >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| > >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| > >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| > >> http://support.microsoft.com
| > >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| > >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| > >> ==============================================
| > >>
| > >> | > >> > I've spent about 20 hours over the last 2 days trying to figure how
| to
| > > use
| > >> > IIS to save a FrontPage web (from the FP2002 Tutorial) on my
| computer,
| > >> > running Win XP Pro. All my attempts end up with obscure error
| messages
| > > of
| > >> > which I understand not a word. I'm beginning to doubt IIS actually
| > > works.
| > >> >
| > >> > For example, if I try to specify the location of my new web as
| > >> > http://localhost/, then the error message is "You cannot create a
| root
| > > web
| > >> > at http://localhost. If there is a server at that location, you may
| > > create a
| > >> > subweb by specifying a location such as "http://localhost/myseb"."
| > >> >
| > >> > I have no way of knowing if there is a server at that location (The
| > > Server
| > >> > option on the Tools menu in FP2002 is greyed out), but if I follow
| the
| > > above
| > >> > advice, the error message is "Could not find a web server at
| > > 'localhost'.
| > >> > Please check to make sure that the web server name is valid and your
| > > proxy
| > >> > settings are set correctly. If you are sure that everything is
| correct,
| > > the
| > >> > web server may be temporarily out of service"
| > >> >
| > >> > I can do nothing useful with this information.
| > >> >
| > >> > If I try to save the web as a disk-based web only (which is NOT what
| I
| > > want
| > >> > to do) and save it at c:\inetpub\wwwroot\Championzone (the name
| > > suggested in
| > >> > the FP2002 Tutorial), then the error message is " Unable to create a
| > >> > disk-based web at "C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\Championzone" because its
| parent
| > > web
| > >> > would not be a disk-based web. Create the disk-based web elsewhere,
| > > outside
| > >> > of your web server's document hierarchy."
| > >> >
| > >> > This seems to be telling me that there is a web server at this
| location,
| > >> > contrary to the previous error message. Huh?
| > >> >
| > >> > if I save at c:\My Documents\My webs\Championzone, then it works: I
| get
| > > a
| > >> > disk-based web, which is NOT what I want, and I haven't been able to
| use
| > >> > IIS, which is what I DO want.
| > >> >
| > >> > Ergo, I conclude IIS does not work.
| > >> >
| > >> > Somebody please show me where I have gone wrong.
| > >> >
| > >> >
| > >> >
| > >> >
| > >>
| > >>
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

See If you are a Microsoft FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Administrator at
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/sts/2001/all/proddocs/en-us/admindoc/ows000.mspx




|> Several million people would disagree.
|
| Every one of whom are not using my computer, so their views are valid only
| in a different context, not the one that is causing me problems. I can find
| no evidence, on my computer, that it works. I can find plenty of evidence
| that it does not.
|
| The logical fault is in my use of the functions of IIS - but I can find no
| information, written for somebody like myself, that will allow me to
| understand where the error is - hence my appeal to experts such as
| yourself....
|
|
| | > >> Ergo, I conclude IIS does not work.
| > Several million people would disagree.
| >
| > Bob Lehmann
| >
| > | >
| >
|
|

 

[Kevin Spencer]

A car does not come with a manual instructing you how to drive. This is not
the "fault" of the car, nor of the car manufacturer. It is your
responsibility to learn to drive before attempting to do so. What you will
find in a car is a manual that describes the features of the car, and where
you will find certain types of controls, like the switches for the air
conditioner and the radio. It will also contain information about
maintaining the car. but it will never have information that instructs you
how to drive, nor what a radio is, what an air conditioner is, or what an
oil change is.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
The sun never sets on
the Kingdom of Heaven