Does Microsoft Word work on Macbooks?

[Sec2022]

I will be attending college in the fall and am looking at getting a mac but i
know microsoft word is a base for many documents. Where can i get microsoft
word for mac? Will the new beta office work for mac? If i have a microsoft
works disc that has microsoft word on it... but i use it on my windows
computer now... will it work on my mac?

 

[Elliott Roper]

I will be attending college in the fall and am looking at getting a mac but i
know microsoft word is a base for many documents. Where can i get microsoft
word for mac?

Apple, Microsoft, any Apple reseller, your college
Make sure you get the education edition of MS office. Exact same
features at far more affordabel price.

Will the new beta office work for mac? No
If i have a microsoft
works disc that has microsoft word on it... but i use it on my windows
computer now... will it work on my mac?

No. But..

If you get a MacBook or MacBook Pro or one of the intel iMacs or minis,
you can dual boot it into WIndows if you must.

 

[Bob]

I will be attending college in the fall and am looking at getting a mac but i

know microsoft word is a base for many documents. Where can i get microsoft
word for mac?

You'll want to wait and buy this through your school, since the student
version will be much much cheaper than the full blow product. As near
as I can tell, the student version isn't missing much functionality. I
forget what the school's computer store charged me, but it was
something like $25 for the whole suite (Word, Excel, Powerpoint). It
may have even been $5. You probably won't be able to buy it through
your school until you are actually a student there.

These programs do seem to crash more than other mac programs, but since
I'm in the habit of saving my file after about every sentence I've
never really lost anyting. A few of the crashes I've learned how to
avoid, like never trying to view footers in word when I'm already in
split screen mode.

Another choice is the free o p e n o f f i c e project but I found
them to be less mac-like (and thus more confusing to me) than the
microsoft office suite. And since office was so cheap or me as a
student I had little monetary incentive to use something else.

 

[Clive Huggan]

See below.

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
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You'll want to wait and buy this through your school, since the student
version will be much much cheaper than the full blow product. As near
as I can tell, the student version isn't missing much functionality. I
forget what the school's computer store charged me, but it was
something like $25 for the whole suite (Word, Excel, Powerpoint). It
may have even been $5.

Wow! (Students in Australia are paying lots more for you to enjoy those
terrific prices! ;-)

You probably won't be able to buy it through
your school until you are actually a student there.

These programs do seem to crash more than other mac programs,

That's probably not the general experience. I had my first crash yesterday
(Word 2004) in about a year, and I work intensively in Word, on long,
complex documents, every day.

but since
I'm in the habit of saving my file after about every sentence I've
never really lost anyting. A few of the crashes I've learned how to
avoid, like never trying to view footers in word when I'm already in
split screen mode.

In Word 2004, when I'm in Normal view with a split screen, selecting View
menu => Header and Footer changes the view to Page layout view with the
footer visible. No crash. I repeated this in both the top and bottom views.
No problem when I'm in Page Layout view ­ it just shows the footer. Are
there other steps/factors involved at your end, Bob, e.g. ?

Another choice is the free o p e n o f f i c e project

There's no reason why you can't say "Open Office" here. There's *no* party
line, and dispassionate discussion of non-Microsoft software is common. ;-)

but I found
them to be less mac-like (and thus more confusing to me) than the
microsoft office suite. And since office was so cheap or me as a
student I had little monetary incentive to use something else.

My main reason for posting was to tell the OP that DataViz puts out a
product called Mac Link Plus, which converts a huge range of file formats to
others. Check it out and see if MS Works <==> Word is among them.

CH
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[Paul Berkowitz]

My main reason for posting was to tell the OP that DataViz puts out a
product called Mac Link Plus, which converts a huge range of file formats to
others. Check it out and see if MS Works <==> Word is among them.

It's not necessary.

Microsoft Works will save in RTF (Rich Text Format). That is immediately
openable in Microsoft Word - all versions on all platforms including all Mac
Word versions - not to mention TextEdit in Mac OS X too. It seems to include
just about any formatting that's possible in MS Works. (In fact, one wonders
why they even bother to have to have a separate .wps format, and don't just
save by default in .rtf. Well, I don't really know Works, so perhaps there
are some features it can do not available to .rtf, but none I've seen.)

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[Daiya Mitchell]

You'll want to wait and buy this through your school, since the student
The student version has exactly the same features. Same programs except for
price, on the Mac.

To the original poster--you should know: On the Mac, the only Office suite
there is consists of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Entourage. Nothing else.
Access, FrontPage, Visio, Publisher, etc, do not exist for the Mac (though
there are fine or better Mac programs that serve the same functions).
MacOffice Pro has the 4 programs above, plus VirtualPC, but is not worth
buying with an Intel-based Mac, as VirtualPC will not run on it.

Wow! (Students in Australia are paying lots more for you to enjoy those
terrific prices! ;-)

That is not standard in the US. Those are special volume license deals
arranged with only certain schools, and are usually just CDs in a case, no
retail packaging, and probably have only a single license key instead of the
3 in the retail Student/Teacher edition.

Regular retail student price is about $150, in the US. Places like these:
http://www.journeyed.com/home.asp
http://www.academicsuperstore.com/
Might beat your college store, by a little, might not. But check your
college store first, in case they have arranged special licenses.

*Make sure* your school supports Macs before getting one--some schools do
not. If they support Macs, they will likely have some sort of bundle that
they try to sell to incoming students, and that may be the best for you.

Apple also tends to have special student deals--for instance, the last two
Septembers and this September they have essentially been giving a free iPod
(via rebate) with the purchase of a Mac other than the mini--I think this
year it's a free iPod nano. Look for the link to the Education store online
to surf the options. Sometimes such a deal can be handled through your
college store, as well.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa

Anyone considering switching to the Mac should google a little for the
experiences of others, as it is a change and you have to be willing to get
used to the differences. Also, try to play with one before you commit any
money.

 

[Clive Huggan]

It's not necessary.

Microsoft Works will save in RTF (Rich Text Format). That is immediately
openable in Microsoft Word - all versions on all platforms including all Mac
Word versions - not to mention TextEdit in Mac OS X too. It seems to include
just about any formatting that's possible in MS Works. (In fact, one wonders
why they even bother to have to have a separate .wps format, and don't just
save by default in .rtf. Well, I don't really know Works, so perhaps there
are some features it can do not available to .rtf, but none I've seen.)

Yes. I was assuming the capacity to open and Save As RTF in Works was not
easily available.

Clive Huggan
============

 

[Dave Minerath]

For something more Mac-like, you can also try NeoOffice, which is a Mac port
of OpenOffice. It's more Mac-like in that the menu bar contains the menu
items instead of the window (a la Windows).

I also have difficulty sometimes with OO, as I'm used to the way I can
insert and change text styles with a single click, plus MathType interfaces
with Office nicely (even if Office sometimes corrupts the equations and
forces me into an extra step to get the Page X of Y footers right) so I
stick with Office.

But to each their own.

 

[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

What Bob says is correct: the Student versions of Microsoft products is not
missing *anything*, it is the exact same product.

It is simply burned to disk with a different licence key series. But only
the licence is different. In some products, the "Academic" version is the
"Professional" version, not the "Home" version, so you actually get "extra"
functions, not fewer.

So by all means WAIT until you have your Student Enrolment Card, then
purchase your software as Academic versions through your university. You
will also find that the computer itself will be available at an academic
discount price. Computer companies are very keen to capture students,
because they know that you are most likely to keep buying the computing
brands you began with for the rest of your life

However: No: Software for a PC will not run on a Mac (or vice-versa).
More than 80 per cent of the "work" in Microsoft Office is done by the
operating system, not by the application program. Word is an application
program: it makes heavy and constant use of the operating system to do
anything. So you must have a version written and compiled for the operating
system you are using.

Yes, you can dual-boot MacIntels with Windows XP, and if you can afford two
sets of software, you certainly should!

No, Office 2007 will not run on the Mac. But Office 2008 or whatever they
call it WILL. It will be produced as a Universal Binary that will run on
either the Motorola or the Intel Mac.

However, you didn't tell us what you are studying. For some subjects, we
would strongly recommend that you buy a PC. For others, you'll be fine on a
Mac.

Cheers

You'll want to wait and buy this through your school, since the student
version will be much much cheaper than the full blow product. As near
as I can tell, the student version isn't missing much functionality. I
forget what the school's computer store charged me, but it was
something like $25 for the whole suite (Word, Excel, Powerpoint). It
may have even been $5. You probably won't be able to buy it through
your school until you are actually a student there.

These programs do seem to crash more than other mac programs, but since
I'm in the habit of saving my file after about every sentence I've
never really lost anyting. A few of the crashes I've learned how to
avoid, like never trying to view footers in word when I'm already in
split screen mode.

Another choice is the free o p e n o f f i c e project but I found
them to be less mac-like (and thus more confusing to me) than the
microsoft office suite. And since office was so cheap or me as a
student I had little monetary incentive to use something else.

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[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Hi Paul:

Microsoft Works on the PC may include two word processors, depending on
which flavour you buy. The basic version has only the Works Word Processor,
which produces the .wks command-stream format file (basically, the Word for
DOS, Word 2 for Windows format).

The "Full" version of Works includes a version of the "real" Microsoft Word
product in the box as an optional install. It's the only member of the
Office suite for which Works does include the full product. That's
basically because the Works word-processor is very limited in its ability to
edit Word documents.

However, while the full version of Word is included, the VBA automation
facility is NOT. So some Word functionality is missing (the clip gallery
comes to mind).

Hope this helps

It's not necessary.

Microsoft Works will save in RTF (Rich Text Format). That is immediately
openable in Microsoft Word - all versions on all platforms including all Mac
Word versions - not to mention TextEdit in Mac OS X too. It seems to include
just about any formatting that's possible in MS Works. (In fact, one wonders
why they even bother to have to have a separate .wps format, and don't just
save by default in .rtf. Well, I don't really know Works, so perhaps there
are some features it can do not available to .rtf, but none I've seen.)

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[Paul Berkowitz]

However, you didn't tell us what you are studying. For some subjects, we
would strongly recommend that you buy a PC.
"we"?

For others, you'll be fine on a
Mac.

For your information, John, there are many academic fields where you won't
just "be fine" but where Macs are strongly recommended and preferred.

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[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

You have the list handy??

For your information, John, there are many academic fields where you won't
just "be fine" but where Macs are strongly recommended and preferred.

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[Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.]

How about Virginia Tech.

They just last year created a super Computer array using nothing but Mac's

Many course there they recommend Mac's. There are some courses they
recommend Pc's but very few.

You have the list handy??

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[Daiya Mitchell]

At my university, architecture and journalism are complete Mac enclaves.

 

[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Very different scene down here -- still can't get a Mac through the door in
most workplaces.

Interestingly, one thing that's turning it around is the Mac Mini. That has
become a very hot seller.

At my university, architecture and journalism are complete Mac enclaves.

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[Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.]

That's because of close-minded people running the show and the massive
Brainwashing from MS.

Very different scene down here -- still can't get a Mac through the door in
most workplaces.

Interestingly, one thing that's turning it around is the Mac Mini. That has
become a very hot seller.

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[Clive Huggan]

Hmm, since we're talking about Australia I can confirm that the main reason
was the careless neglect of the Australian market by Apple Computer about
the time when Windows was just starting to lurch into life. People were
actually not closed-minded, and Microsoft had nothing to do with it; it was
pure complacency at the time when Apple's market share was climbing steeply
-- I remember it clearly.

Clive Huggan
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That's because of close-minded people running the show and the massive
Brainwashing from MS.

Very different scene down here -- still can't get a Mac through the door in
most workplaces.

Interestingly, one thing that's turning it around is the Mac Mini. That has
become a very hot seller.

At my university, architecture and journalism are complete Mac enclaves.


On 6/17/06 3:28 PM, "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote:

You have the list handy??


On 18/6/06 5:42 AM, in article C0B9A92E.D5560%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com,
For your information, John, there are many academic fields where you won't
just "be fine" but where Macs are strongly recommended and preferred.