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Message: [QUOTE="Ynot, post: 1916617"] Howard thanks and I agree. I just don't have an easy way to do this. The "jobs" table is part of a large old system. That system works with all of the columns in the jobs table. In order to do it right the old system will have to be redone, that is planned but off in the future. I am still stuck having to do an update of about 40 columns from one table to another any other ideas? 'prototype'. Storing it two places is redundant and wastes system resources. PrototypeID ( pt_ID ) for each plus your 40 detail columns plus anything else you want to toss in. table, add an AutoNumber field to the new copy and then append all the data from your original table. As the records populate, they'll each be given an incremental number.) a pt_ID field for the prototype the job is using and any other fields you want to add. and enforce referential integrity. whenever you need, and not have to enter or store the data twice. [/QUOTE]